Player Watchlist 2015-2016

Swiper the fox

extra gravy wrote: »

So is Mane to be fair...just don't see the point of shelling out an extra million for him.

You would usually only need to watch Southampton for 15 minutes to realise why Mane is worth the extra 1m, in saying that I am quite surprised with your hard evidence of points scored to date. I still believe that Mane will destroy Tadic between now and the end of the season.

Invincible

extra gravy wrote: »

So is Mane to be fair...just don't see the point of shelling out an extra million for him.

True....but just have an idea of Mane being more prolific, haven't looked at stats to compare though.

extra gravy

Swiper the fox wrote: »

You would usually only need to watch Southampton for 15 minutes to realise why Mane is worth the extra 1m, in saying that I am quite surprised with your hard evidence of points scored to date. I still believe that Mane will destroy Tadic between now and the end of the season.

I've no doubt Mané is the better player from watching him, I'm just basing my opinion on their fpl returns. Last season there was only 20 points difference between them and Mane played more minutes than Tadic. I'm just not as convinced about Mané as some other people are.

Dr. Bre

What bout lingard at 4.5? Likely to keep place

km79

Dr. Bre wrote: »

What bout lingard at 4.5? Likely to keep place

short term definitley yes LVG even wrote a special bit in his programme notes yday about him BUT if things don't go well for a game or 2 he will be out of team maybe never to be seen again !
you would probably be safe enough with him till the January wildcard though
now you have me thinking cos he certainly has an eye for goal.........

FHFC

km79 wrote: »

short term definitley yes LVG even wrote a special bit in his programme notes yday about him BUT if things don't go well for a game or 2 he will be out of team maybe never to be seen again !
you would probably be safe enough with him till the January wildcard though
now you have me thinking cos he certainly has an eye for goal.........

Nobody is gonna use their second wildcard in January.

Iused2likebusts

Dr. Bre wrote: »

What bout lingard at 4.5? Likely to keep place

Like janujaz a couple of years back it will more than likely end in dissapointment from an ff point of view. He is at a price where u need him to be your bench player but is playing for a team that you will feel you have to start him every week especially with their fixtures. I would expect a lot of 1 pointers from him being subbed off early if things not going well or coming on for the last 20 min.

Invincible

Rose popping up with an odd assist could be Azpilicueta's replacement.

Jaggo

Invincible wrote: »

Rose popping up with an odd assist could be Azpilicueta's replacement.

Spurs have some good fixtures too.

it goes:
WHM;
CHE;
west brom;
NEW;
south;
NOR;
wat;
LEIC;
SUN;
c pal;
nor;
WAT;
man city away on GW 26 13th Feb.

I think there is a good few cleansheets in there, especially if Payet is out and if chelsea remain as bad as they are.

iroced

... and it actually does fit perfectly well with the last post on this very thread :cool:.

slingerz wrote: »

What about Deli Alli as an option

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

Rubbish player.

Let's me save you the trouble of reading the last few pages and tell you that the general consensus is not to touch him.

Motm vs Swansea on the last MNF
Motm vs Arsenal in his first NLD last Sunday
Motm and goal on his full England debut tonight.

... might be watch list material I suppose

LostArt wrote: »

Spurs fan here, he hasn't been and won't play high up the pitch enough to warrant fpl selection imo

Swiper the fox wrote: »

He's only 4.9 though and he certainly has an eye for goal, Dier covers the defence very well and Spurs should dominate many games enough to allow some freedom for either of them, I actually think he's a great option to be a fourth midfielder to allow extra funds for the front three.

DarraghF197 wrote: »

I was strongly considering Alli, see a page or two back, but chose Deulofeu instead. I have a little more doubt that I made the right decision after seeing that goal pop in yesterday, and he assisted the assist.

LostArt wrote: »

I don't agree, while he has been playing very well both Mason and Bentaleb are fit now so I think there'll be a bit of rotation in cm, plus Alli is one booking from a suspension.

Swiper the fox wrote: »

The suspension thing is a problem alright but for 4.9 I'd be alright with him missing a week, that could allow for the rotation you suggest as well. It'd be a shame if it as Norwich or Newcastle at home I suppose.
I'm a Spurs fan as well and with the greatest respect for both of them, neither Bentaleb or Mason are near the class of Alli and he's gonna get better.
With 4th a real possibility I think Pott will want his best players on the field in the league and Alli is one of them.
Who knows???

I found him very good yesterday evening for his first ever English cap. He scored a wondergoal and got the ball back (from Pogba) and gave a great through ball to Sterling for Rooney's volley. He was deservedly elected Man Of the Match. But, you have to consider the context. French players probably had their heads and legs somewhere else...

So, I think, at his price, it is very safe to continue monitoring him for a while. I mean, with Mahrez's form, if Alli really becomes a real 4th mid option, we could have 2 midfield spots for £5.5m (and here I'm taking a £0.6m rising flexibility on Alli !!!). I think that should be largely enough to easily accomodate the big 3 (Sanchez-KDB-Agüero) in a strong balanced team.

keano_afc

Its hard to judge Alli considering the English tax thats put on his performance. He somehow got MoTM in the NLD despite doing absolutely nothing of note.

Swiper the fox

He now has three man of the match performances in a row, got the official MOTM against Swansea and Arsenal as well, that is a player bang on form, I see very little rotation in his future, but I'm banging on now so I'll park it there for the moment, to be honest I don't even want anybody else to buy him:P and I won't be fast tracking him in myself either.

Swiper the fox

keano_afc wrote: »

Its hard to judge Alli considering the English tax thats put on his performance. He somehow got MoTM in the NLD despite doing absolutely nothing of note.

That is a crazy comment, I can't let that go.
NO WAY did you see that game if you are making that comment, he was absolutely brilliant.

iroced

Swiper the fox wrote: »

He now has three man of the match performances in a row, got the official MOTM against Swansea and Arsenal as well, that is a player bang on form, I see very little rotation in his future, but I'm banging on now so I'll park it there for the moment, to be honest I don't even want anybody else to buy him:P and I won't be fast tracking him in myself either.

If I had the flexibility I'd gladly get him as my 5th mid. I'm not ready yet to give him my 4th mid spot. I may be proven wrong but so be it. In addition, him being 1 YC away from a 1-game ban makes him an impossible option for me. It'd be stupid from me considering I own Bellerin, Sanchez & Vardy... Payet too but he'd be the one making way for Alli.

Mike Ehrmantraut

iroced wrote: »

If I had the flexibility I'd gladly get him as my 5th mid. I'm not ready yet to give him my 4th mid spot. I may be proven wrong but so be it. In addition, him being 1 YC away from a 1-game ban makes him an impossible option for me. It'd be stupid from me considering I own Bellerin, Sanchez & Vardy... Payet too but he'd be the one making way for Alli.

Brought him in last week for Payet, happy to have him as a budget 5th midfielder, think he will get plenty game time over the season and looks more than capable of popping up with a few goals and assists.

the groutch

MOTM awards mean nothing in the context of FPL, I wouldn't be getting too carried away yet.

Swiper the fox

the groutch wrote: »

MOTM awards mean nothing in the context of FPL, I wouldn't be getting too carried away yet.

I think the point is (and the reason I mention them on this thread) that many people are concerned that Alli isn't going to be a regular at Spurs.
This isn't a Michael Carrick/Glen Whelan type defensive mid we're talking about, he will be getting into scoring positions, and he's playing on a team that should be top 4 this year and have plenty of goals in them. He's in that awkward position of being a bit of an overspend for the 5th mid but people can make up their own mind obviously. As I said before, I'd be happy to play him every week I wasn't going with 4 at the back so if I get him it will probably be as a 4th midfielder. 2 goals and two assists already, I see no reason he shouldn't be great value for that price tag.

Did I say I was giving up the Alli talk about 10 posts ago:pac:

FHFC

Mike Ehrmantraut wrote: »

Brought him in last week for Payet, happy to have him as a budget 5th midfielder, think he will get plenty game time over the season and looks more than capable of popping up with a few goals and assists.

I'm tempted but can't justify spending 0.6 or 0.7 more for a 5th mid. People with a 4.9 ot 5m 5th mid are gonna seriously struggle to fit Aguero back in and retain any flexibility in their team.

Shedite27

the groutch wrote: »

MOTM awards mean nothing in the context of FPL, I wouldn't be getting too carried away yet.

He also got 3PB's in the NLD

extra gravy

Shedite27 wrote: »

He also got 3PB's in the NLD

Ozil got the 3 bps and was the best player on the pitch.

Swiper the fox

extra gravy wrote: »

Ozil got the 3 bps and was the best player on the pitch.

Says the fella with about 2000 posts on the arsenal thread in the soccer forum:p

extra gravy

Swiper the fox wrote: »

Says the fella with about 2000 posts on the arsenal thread in the soccer forum:p

Assists: Ozil 1-0 Alli
Chances created: Ozil 7-0 Alli
Tackles won: Ozil 2-1 Alli
Pass accuracy: Ozil 81% - Alli 67%

I might be biased but the stats aren't

Swiper the fox

Well yeah but:o:o:(:mad:

Sky Sports is where the real experts work, no need for stats:pac:

Mike Ehrmantraut

FHFC wrote: »

I'm tempted but can't justify spending 0.6 or 0.7 more for a 5th mid. People with a 4.9 ot 5m 5th mid are gonna seriously struggle to fit Aguero back in and retain any flexibility in their team.

Had a look at that, have good team value and resale value, so can afford the .4 m more than the likes of Wanyama, should have Aguero in my team in 2 to 3 weeks time

Ziegler1988

FHFC wrote: »

I'm tempted but can't justify spending 0.6 or 0.7 more for a 5th mid. People with a 4.9 ot 5m 5th mid are gonna seriously struggle to fit Aguero back in and retain any flexibility in their team.

It's probably doable for people not going with the power 3 of Aguero, KDB, and Sanchez. I'm going back to the safety blanket of a 4m defender and 4.3m midfielder this GW after my dabbles with an expensive defence and strong front 8

FHFC

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

It's probably doable for people not going with the power 3 of Aguero, KDB, and Sanchez. I'm going back to the safety blanket of a 4m defender and 4.3m midfielder this GW after my dabbles with an expensive defence and strong front 8

Likewise. Josh and Wanyama time most likely.

Trimm Trabb

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

It's probably doable for people not going with the power 3 of Aguero, KDB, and Sanchez. I'm going back to the safety blanket of a 4m defender and 4.3m midfielder this GW after my dabbles with an expensive defence and strong front 8

It's funny we always seem to be employing the same strategies and moving up and down tables at same time - noticed that last year and this year again. Keep up the good work!

2nd Row Donkey

... don't have any concerns about Alli been rested or rotated myself.

He's started every game for spurs this year as far as I know including the first couple where Bentaleb was available.

Mason has also been back a few weeks now and he hasn't been able to dislodge him.

.. those aside, the other players competing for a place across the middle of the spurs team - Chadli, Lamela, Eriksen, Dembele, SON and N'jie have all come in and out of the starting XI amongst themselves while Alli and Dier (except for his red card ban) have been consistently starting.

Chesty08

As a recently new Mahrez owner (only last GW) do I play him regardless this week or who do I drop

KDB Sanchez Mane Eriksen (Mahrez)

Pelle Lukaku Ighalo

Ziegler1988

Chesty08 wrote: »

As a recently new Mahrez owner (only last GW) do I play him regardless this week or who do I drop

KDB Sanchez Mane Eriksen (Mahrez)

Pelle Lukaku Ighalo

Mane may not start. He flew to Madagascar last week and will probably not be in training tomorrow

dahat

Chesty08 wrote: »

As a recently new Mahrez owner (only last GW) do I play him regardless this week or who do I drop

KDB Sanchez Mane Eriksen (Mahrez)

Pelle Lukaku Ighalo

This will lead to heartache each week, a strong front 8 cost me decent hauls Igahlo , Lukaku and Mahrez three weeks running. Gone away from that now to a standard 343.

machiavellianme

Chesty08 wrote: »

As a recently new Mahrez owner (only last GW) do I play him regardless this week or who do I drop

KDB Sanchez Mane Eriksen (Mahrez)

Pelle Lukaku Ighalo

There's an old saying that goes something along the lines of "form over fixtures".
I don't buy it and I play value over fixtures but then again my squad hate scoring points for me...

keano_afc

Swiper the fox wrote: »

That is a crazy comment, I can't let that go.
NO WAY did you see that game if you are making that comment, he was absolutely brilliant.

Assists: 0
Chances created: 0
Tackles won: 1
Pass accuracy: 67%

Phenomenal.

EDIT: Beaten to it.

Swiper the fox

keano_afc wrote: »

Assists: 0
Chances created: 0
Tackles won: 1
Pass accuracy: 67%

Phenomenal.

EDIT: Beaten to it.

I was very surprised to see those stats myself yesterday, I can only assume that statistics don't always tell the full story, themain reason why Spurs were so dominant was because Arsenal were destroyed in midfield, I thought Alli had a great game but I recall Dembele was superb as well.
You said he did nothing of note and I would dispute that wholeheartedly, perhaps it is the case that he was a bit lucky to get the MOTM but he was a crucial part of what should have been a win in a huge match.

Jesper

I'm looking to switch out a Norwich defender (Martin) and put in a CP defender. They are all reasonable priced (4.2-4.5) and have a good schedule coming up.

Schedule - Sun/New/Eve/Sout/Stoke/Bou

Who would you suggest? Have to say I don't know who to choose.

extra gravy

Jesper wrote: »

I'm looking to switch out a Norwich defender (Martin) and put in a CP defender. They are all reasonable priced (4.2-4.5) and have a good schedule coming up.

Schedule - Sun/New/Eve/Sout/Stoke/Bou

Who would you suggest? Have to say I don't know who to choose.

I have Souare myself but if you have the cash Dann would be a good option too.

Ziegler1988

Jesper wrote: »

I'm looking to switch out a Norwich defender (Martin) and put in a CP defender. They are all reasonable priced (4.2-4.5) and have a good schedule coming up.

Schedule - Sun/New/Eve/Sout/Stoke/Bou

Who would you suggest? Have to say I don't know who to choose.

I'd choose Souare, Delaney, Ward, Kelly in that order

km79

zouma has played every minute of last 6 league games
nice run coming up..

Invincible

km79 wrote: »

zouma has played every minute of last 6 league games
nice run coming up..

Could be a sideways move from Azpilicueta and costs less!

km79

Invincible wrote: »

Could be a sideways move from Azpilicueta and costs less!

he is dangerous from set pieces too
hit the crossbar yday
might switch kolarov for him in a week or 2

FHFC

How nailed on is Wollscheid at Stoke? They are going really well and he has played 90 in their last 7 in which they have an amazing 5 clean sheets and Wolly grabbing 5 bonus.

Unless I'm missing something he could be my ft this week to lay the ground for Aguero in GW15.

Invincible

FHFC wrote: »

How nailed on is Wollscheid at Stoke? They are going really well and he has played 90 in their last 7 in which they have an amazing 5 clean sheets and Wolly grabbing 5 bonus.

Unless I'm missing something he could be my ft this week to lay the ground for Aguero in GW15.

He was very much in favour here early in season but lost his place but seems cemented again, great value at 4.3.

Lemlin

FHFC wrote: »

How nailed on is Wollscheid at Stoke? They are going really well and he has played 90 in their last 7 in which they have an amazing 5 clean sheets and Wolly grabbing 5 bonus.

Unless I'm missing something he could be my ft this week to lay the ground for Aguero in GW15.

I'm planning to go with him too. He seems to be nailed on again after reclaiming his place. Stoke are playing well so I can't see Hughes changing it.

Trimm Trabb

Shawcross is their captain and best center half so starts when fit. Wolscheid, Cameron, Muinesa and Wilson have all had extended runs in the team at center half in last couple of seasons.

Cameron had played every minute before he got injured a few weeks ago and that has coincided with Stoke's run of clean sheets. If Stoke lose or concede a few wouldn't be surprised if Wolly is dropped again. Bought Muinesa the week before he got dropped and just sold Cameron this week so I can testify you should tread carefully with Stokes defence.

Ziegler1988

I had Wolly last Jan when he looked nailed and then he got dropped. He could be worth the risk at 4.3m but I think you're better off with Simpson at 4m (I didn't end up following my own advice on that front though....)

shineon23

shineon23 wrote:

also keeping an eye on Adam Smith (Bournemouth-4.0), got 77 mins this week and has got some minutes in every game week except GW 1. am thinking a 1 pointer is better than Targett who'll won't play again bar injury to Bertrand.

Ma Boy! Adam Smith!

FHFC

Is this Stanislaus lad in any way secure of his place? I had written him off as too risky but he's tempting as an enabler even if just for the price rises.

FHFC

FHFC wrote: »

Is this Stanislaus lad in any way secure of his place? I had written him off as too risky but he's tempting as an enabler even if just for the price rises.

No Bournemouth insiders? Don't make me start trawling their fan forums people!

irish son

FHFC wrote: »

No Bournemouth insiders? Don't make me start trawling their fan forums people!

I'm sure one of them works with Lemlin

Lemlin

irish son wrote: »

I'm sure one of them works with Lemlin

I've left that job. So far the new place is a mix of boring United and Liverpool supporters with two Leeds lads thrown in!!