TUF 22 - Europe vs USA (McGregor & Faber coaching)**Contains Spoilers**

Amazingfun

Cool bits of Aldo in the gym, and Conor's face when he saw him, lol. Juicy and Artem up now...........................!

****************WOW, and it's over like a minute later, lol! Beautiful TKO!

Hazys

Artem...damn, perfect punch

3 KOs...amazing

Amazingfun

HOLY ****: Saul lied on his Visa and now RYan Hall is in! I am so glad I stayed up for this ep!!

Amazingfun

I can't wrap my head around this one now, if Hall was only just here in Dublin training with Artem, isn't that a great gift to him now?

Hazys

Wow Saul out of the fight for lying on his visa application...he must have had a criminal record but lied about it.

Massive dent to his career as he'll never be allowed into the US, the ban will most likely be permanent.

Obviously he can fight in non US UFC events but he'll only be available for less than half the cards.

I can only presume he had a criminal record that would have kept out of the US anyway so he had no choice to lie but how would the USCIS have found out unless somebody ratted him out? Certain criminal offenses are forgivable but lying isn't.

Another possibility is that he came on a tourist visa but took employment in form of the show but he could easily argue he wasn't paid so that seems unlikely although that would be obvious way the USCIS found out he was lying.

Foxtrol

Wow, totally changes everything! Must be gutting for Saul and to a lesser extent Marcin.

Such an interesting stylistic match up.

Depp

Amazingfun wrote: »

HOLY ****: Saul lied on his Visa and now RYan Hall is in! I am so glad I stayed up for this ep!!

was well worth staying up! what a twist! plus itll help with my transitioning into a night person for the next few days ...could see saul on the london card but i doubt it!

any sign of the full card for friday night now?

martyos121

Sitting here in Dublin airport with 4 hours to kill, if anyone could throw up a link to last nights episode, that'd be pure sound.

Depp

martyos121 wrote: »

Sitting here in Dublin airport with 4 hours to kill, if anyone could throw up a link to last nights episode, that'd be pure sound.

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Don't post links to illegal streams/copyright videos.

martyos121

Absolute legend, cheers!

Depp

martyos121 wrote: »

Absolute legend, cheers!

no worries!

martyos121

Just finished watching it, wow Artem is a killer. Thought he might've been getting lucky before with the finishes but he truly is a KO artist! Hall should be an intriguing matchup, it will all come down to whether he can get him to ground or not.

ASOT

Artem is going to win TUF by 4 KOs... If someone was to tell you that two years ago you'd be sent to an asylum.

martyos121

ASOT wrote: »

Artem is going to win TUF by 4 KOs... If someone was to tell you that two years ago you'd be sent to an asylum.

I wonder has anyone done that before? And if so, where are they now?

It'd be one hell of an achievement.

ASOT

martyos121 wrote: »

I wonder has anyone done that before? And if so, where are they now?

It'd be one hell of an achievement.

Couldn't be happier for the lad he's a gent. Now at least he's guaranteed a contract.

killwill

What the f*ck did I come into this thread for before watching the episode?

loudnoises89

Couldn't take McGregor seriously in that stare down with his pants haha.

Mellor

ASOT wrote: »

Artem is going to win TUF by 4 KOs... If someone was to tell you that two years ago you'd be sent to an asylum.

Yeah it's crazy. But I'm absolutely delighted for him. It also completely validates the decision to bring him back.

Crazy turn of events with Ryan. Just after the trip to SBG too

John_D80

Would love to hear the opinions of any of the posters here who train in SBG with Artem and may have seen him and Ryan sparring and/or rolling during the week that Ryan was over here.

Amazingfun

loudnoises89 wrote: »

Couldn't take McGregor seriously in that stare down with his pants haha.

Every female on the FB threads (including myself) seemed quite impressed with them :P

Lights On

Was sure that they'd give Marcin the fight after I saw that Saul had been taken out, would have liked to see himself and Artem knocking lumps out of each other. But I'm glad to see Ryan back too, will definitely make for a more exciting final than Saul v Artem, had a feeling Saul would have ended up taking him to the ground and laying on him for the majority.

JustTheOne

John and the coaches in sbg will be busy bees right now preparing artem for that 50/50 and conor for Jose!

VisibleGorilla

Why was Ryan Hall brought in and not have Marcin fight?

Subcomandante Marcos

VisibleGorilla wrote: »

Why was Ryan Hall brought in and not have Marcin fight?

I'd say it comes down to Dana and the coaches preferring Ryan...

smilerf

VisibleGorilla wrote: »

Why was Ryan Hall brought in and not have Marcin fight?

Can only assume it's down to money. They probably see Ryan as a better draw

CatFromHue

Possibly availability too, is Marcin a fully pro fighter or does he have a day job too

Lights On

Have just seen that Marcin is fighting Juciy J tomorrow night so maybe that's why Ryan was called up instead? Glad to see him getting a fight anyway!

clever user name

So if it stays on the feet Artem probably wins, if it goes to the ground Hall wins. Looks pretty cut and dry to me. Or am I oversimplifying it?

Subcomandante Marcos

clever user name wrote: »

So if it stays on the feet Artem probably wins, if it goes to the ground Hall wins. Looks pretty cut and dry to me. Or am I oversimplifying it?

MMA Math doesn't work.

Ryan has better technique than Artem in every area, Artem is a one trick pony but the one trick he has is stupidly heavy hands.

Lights On

Abner Lloveras vs. Chris Gruitzemacher also on the card for the final, strange one that!

Richy06

John_D80 wrote: »

Would love to hear the opinions of any of the posters here who train in SBG with Artem and may have seen him and Ryan sparring and/or rolling during the week that Ryan was over here.

They've trained together plenty. Out of respect and deference to both men, I won't be saying how it went - because it's training and that should stay in the gym where it belongs. Suffice to say both men know exactly what the other wants to do in terms of how they fight so it'll come down to how each guy prepares and has evolved since then.

Artem is notoriously hard to take down and is very adept at popping straight back up again. Maintaining and being very diligent with his base and posture in grappling exchanges will see him right, though he won't bring the wrestling and grappling base Saul did in his neutralising effort against Hall.

Stylistically, this fight is awesome. I cannae wait!!

BOHtox

JustTheOne wrote: »

John and the coaches in sbg will be busy bees right now preparing artem for that 50/50 and conor for Jose!

I assume they've been preparing for weeks at this stage.

Will the fight take place at featherweight? Says on wikipedia it will but could just be a mistake

Mellor

VisibleGorilla wrote: »

Why was Ryan Hall brought in and not have Marcin fight?

Ryan lost by decision, whereas Marcin was finished. Plus Ryan keeps the USA vrs Europe theme going.

Ryan is also the best known fighter out of the contestants.

Mr. Manager

Should this fight not be up on the UFC Pick 'Em thing?

John_D80

Mr. Manager wrote: »

Should this fight not be up on the UFC Pick 'Em thing?

It will be in time surely.

John_D80

Mods, any chance of a poll for Lobov/Hall?

clever user name

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

MMA Math doesn't work.

Ryan has better technique than Artem in every area, Artem is a one trick pony but the one trick he has is stupidly heavy hands.

I was more referring to their skill sets, not their previous fights. But I know what you mean.

runman

I think Hall will get a hold of him. i can't see artem avoiding takedowns for the duration of the fight and i can see hall keeping enough distance to avoid artems big shots.

Ian Whelan

Will McGregor be at the Lobov fight does anyone know? I assume he will be? Perhaps all of that excitement might not be very good for him the night before his own fight.

Utopia Parkway

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

MMA Math doesn't work.

Ryan has better technique than Artem in every area, Artem is a one trick pony but the one trick he has is stupidly heavy hands.

On the ground undoubtably but Hall's stand up has looked fairly rudimentary at best. He was getting tagged a lot by Saul standing and was knocked down a couple of times. Unless he's improved a lot I doubt he'll want to keep it standing against Artem. There are holes in Artem's stand-up but he does have a ton of power and has been fairly accurate with his shots throughout the show as well.

DeVore

Seems that Juicy J got crushed to a pulp.

Artem vs Hall.... well, I'm happy because I wanted to see more of Hall but it should probably have been Marcin getting the nod. Artem vs Hall... you really gotta love the big lug at this point. Hall is the more skilled for sure but how could you not be on Team Artem. 4 Straight knockouts would be amazing.

I'd say Artem gained more from training with Hall than the other way around. I mean, its not exactly rocket science to work out Artems game. He's going to punch you really really really hard. Go train for that.
Meanwhile I'd say Artem is drilling leg escapes in his sleep at this point!

califano

Delighted for Artem getting the win in that fashion. His will and determination is greater than the sum of its parts. Win or lose(hopefully win) v Hall theres a few big paydays ahead for him.
I would fancy him if Hall plays the same game he did v Saul but i think Hall will be constantly looking for takedowns and i can see him getting a few. Its about if and How Artem can bounce back up.
Nice to see Aldo make an appearance and the look of Conor hardly knowing what to make of it!.
One of the best series in recent times.

BOHtox

John_D80 wrote: »

Mods, any chance of a poll for Lobov/Hall?

No point. Do one after the fight

Paully D

Artem 4/7 with the bookies, Hall 11/8.

CatFromHue

califano wrote: »

Delighted for Artem getting the win in that fashion. His will and determination is greater than the sum of its parts. Win or lose(hopefully win) v Hall theres a few big paydays ahead for him.
I would fancy him if Hall plays the same game he did v Saul but i think Hall will be constantly looking for takedowns and i can see him getting a few. Its about if and How Artem can bounce back up.
Nice to see Aldo make an appearance and the look of Conor hardly knowing what to make of it!.
One of the best series in recent times.

I found it abit strange Aldo being there and doing coaching as he can't speak English. The bit where McGregor see's him first Aldo would have had no idea what he was saying.

DeVore

Aldo speaks more English than he lets on I think... Lets face it, Aldo wasn't brought there to coach he was brought there to put him in proximity to Conor. The fight is next week, its part of the build up!

Zero-Cool

Great season and cracking result for Artem, beaming for him. Mad to see Ryan get a shot at the UFC as well so I think this will be a class fight.

Weigh ins are live in 5 minutes.

jimmii

Paully D wrote: »

Artem 4/7 with the bookies, Hall 11/8.

Just saw that was surprised to see Artem quite so short.

hefferboi

Very disappointed there's no Tahn Le tomorrow night. Gritz was about to be sent home as the worst winner then got knocked out by Artem. Can't see why he got a fight for the finale?

ASOT

hefferboi wrote: »

Very disappointed there's no Tahn Le tomorrow night. Gritz was about to be sent home as the worst winner then got knocked out by Artem. Can't see why he got a fight for the finale?

All I can Think about when I see him is him crying, would much rathered a few of the other lads ahead of him.