Parent and Child Spaces

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LordSutch wrote: »

then yes, I will make a comment to him to find out why he has taken a space (designed for parents with children)!


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Saying designed for parents and children still doesn't change the fact you were fundamentally wrong to feel entitled to challenge people on it on two separate occasions

LordSutch

Ctrl Alt Delete wrote: »

Saying designed for parents and children still doesn't change the fact you were fundamentally wrong to feel entitled to challenge people on it on two separate occasions

Remember my last sentence? and the fact that I didn't argue with either of them.

...or are you saying that parents with small children/buggies should never challenge?

Samaris

steddyeddy wrote: »

You really can't compare mother and child spaces to disabled spaces. I know shopping with children isn't easy but I'm sure it doesn't compare to the problems being disabled present.

Course I can. In fact, I am, when it comes to parking spaces :P A disabled person (and bear in mind that there are hundreds of different disabilities, some invisible) and a parent with a couple of small kids both have more difficulties than a lone, able-bodied person. They both -may- be able to get themselves sorted without a special consideration, but likely it's going to take longer and add more pressure. Both may (or may not!) require more room for mobility aids, be it wheelchair, buggy, car-seat, moses basket, etc.

Either example may be at more risk from the added length of time it takes to get out of the car (or back into it) and sorted, be it from a parent having to awkwardly squeeze themselves between the car and the next to strap up a child, and then the second one darts out into the road, or otherwise does something nuts, or an elderly or disabled person having to maneuver between cars, etc.

Yes, obviously, one issue is life-long and the other is only for a few years, but that's not a huge amount of consolation when it's raining and you're carrying the week's shopping and corralling two small kids across a carpark because some unspeakable dick has taken the last P&C spot because his need to shave thirty seconds off his beer-run is more important.

Violet Sun

Sorry you misunderstood me.

I will compare disabled & parent spots because for me it's one in the same. I'm not able to get a disabled permit. But my eldest is autistic and for some time had no road sense. In fact, was known to lie down in the parking lot. She is thankfully hasn't done that in years. But but I have seen many more sever cases than my daughter's. In which Getting the child out of the car safely is a full on program. And no offence we all need to get food at some point.

I'm sorry that you are are annoyed, because you need that space for your precious TV. Of course, what was I thinking?

In the meantime, I don't need to go shopping? I shouldn't be taking my child with me anyway? She's a menace to society... I'll just keep her cooped at home 24/7 like a some animal. Because oops I might get in your way whilst buying some milk.

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Violet Sun wrote: »

Sorry you misunderstood my. I get ****ty about people using disabled parking when they're not. Really ****ty. And no I'm not quiet about it.


I will compare the two because for me it's one in the same. I'm not able to get a disabled permit. But my eldest is autistic and for some time had no road sense in fact, was known to lie down in the parking lot. She is thankfully hasn't done that in years. But but I have seen many more sever cases than my daughter's. In which Getting the child out of the car safely is a full on program. And no offence we all need to get food at some point.

I'm sorry that you are are annoyed. Because you need that space for your precious TV. Of course, what was I thinking?

In the meantime, I don't need to go shopping? I shouldn't be taking my child with me anyway? She's a menace to society... I just keep her cooped at home 24/7 like a some animal. Because oops I might get in your way whilst buying some milk.

Is this really about that or about the fact that you can be bothered to walk 2 minutes extra? I do it all the time and did so even when my child had no awareness of the road. I did so because I had to and there were no spots like that at the time. But Jesus if they were...

I'm not casting doubt on your daughters condition in the slightest but I know two couple with kids who have autism on opposite ends of the spectrum they were both able to get disabled permits for their kids without issue so you should reapply because autism is definitely on the list of permanent disabilities that will be granted an EU Parking Permit (disabled parking pass)

Violet Sun

There is a reason I joined this sight. I read up on all current therapy that there is and programs. All are in the UK, primarily Ireland. I'm an Aussie dear. Disability Permits here don't apply in my case. ****ty yes. Anyway I usually troll on the ABA therapy posts. Waiting for a new update. Very backward here

LordSutch

LordSutch wrote: »

Not really my style to stick my head out the window and mouth off . . . .

...but if I arrive at Tesco/Aldi/Lidl with the kids and buggies (unstrapping car seats etc) and some fella in a suped up Micra just drives in ahead of us and takes the last Parent & Child space . . .

then yes, I will make a comment to him to find out why he has taken a space (designed for parents with children)!


You obviously haven't had babies yet Galwayguy, as you would know exactly what we're all talking about.

Well....I have kids (Irish twins no less) but have never been part of the 'entitled' brigade. Like so many other parents . If there is a P and C space I avail of it, if not, I park elsewhere.

First World problems, much?

Cienciano

Candie wrote: »

It's like a spite thing for some. A tiny little favour that isn't directed at them, and they make a point of ruining it for someone it was meant for. It's just so petty, I don't understand it.

Why do people troll, why do people park where they shouldn't? Because people can be arséholes! It's not illegal to be one, so it's ok apparently

Dubl07

Violet Sun wrote: »

There is a reason I joined this sight. I read up on all current therapy that there is and programs. All are in the UK, primarily Ireland. I'm an Aussie dear. Disability Permits here don't apply in my case. ****ty yes. Anyway I usually troll on the ABA therapy posts. Waiting for a new update. Very backward here

That's a bit unfortunate. Have you tried lobbying Aussie (are you resident there) politicians?

Some autistic children get better with age. An acquaintance's kid who had benefited from an SNA for years improved dramatically when the parents received a foreign visa to emigrate for work. Many of us did a fair bit of blinking but the young person completed education and is now comparable to peers.

Samaris

Deleted User wrote: »

Well....I have kids (Irish twins no less) but have never been part of the 'entitled' brigade. Like so many other parents . If there is a P and C space I avail of it, if not, I park elsewhere.

First World problems, much?

It's hardly entitled to want to be able to take advantage of a helpful thing that's been put there specifically for you to make things easier. Sure, you don't really want it, but others might.

To dismiss it as "First World Problems" is pretty ...ugh, I just dislike the argument. Roscommon having 'orrible water is a "first world problem" (hey, at least they don't have to worry about an animal falling in upstream and poisoning it?). Parnell Place in Cork being an absolute nightmare to drive through is a first world problem (what are you giving out about, at least you have a CAR).

Yeah, you can just dismiss "First World Problems", but on this Irish website, just about all of us ARE First Worlders and thus the majority of our problems are First World Issues. Let's just ban complaining about anything.

steddyeddy

Not everyone who hasn't kids who uses P and C spaces is doing so out of spite. I wouldn't use them unless I really really needed to hurry somewhere or my life depended on it. I have seen elderly people using them and I think it would be wrong to say they're doing so out of spite.

P and C spaces aren't enshrined in law. I wouldn't personally use them but if someone who needs them more than a parent and child uses them I don't see anything wrong with it.

Kwiecien

steddyeddy wrote: »

Not everyone who hasn't kids who uses P and C spaces is doing so out of spite. I wouldn't use them unless I really really needed to hurry somewhere or my life depended on it. I have seen elderly people using them and I think it would be wrong to say they're doing so out of spite.

P and C spaces aren't enshrined in law. I wouldn't personally use them but if someone who needs them more than a parent and child uses them I don't see anything wrong with it.

Yes. If I'm popping into Tesco at 11pm after work to buy milk I park in them. If your spawn isn't in bed by then, you're a ****e parent who doesn't deserve a big parking space :P

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

I think they should be more Prioity parking rather than parent and child.
The only altercation I ever witnessed over a p&c space was a lady getting out of the passenger seat with a cast and crutches only for some batleaxe argue with the driver and her for parking there.
Let parents with kids use them, but don't discriminate against others who may genuinely need them too.

suicide_circus

Cienciano wrote: »

Why do people troll, why do people park where they shouldn't? Because people can be arséholes! It's not illegal to be one, so it's ok apparently

These people's main problem is usually that they're in dire need of a good ride

Violet Sun

Troll was perhaps the wrong word. I was given the website for a reason. I have found it useful for those reason. If you find it offensive... Well I suggest you look at the above statement as really if that's your biggest problem in life count yourself lucky and please refrain from giving me a hard time about it because I wasnt sure of the correct vernacular to use in my instance.

Suckler

Taking a child in to a shop now equates to child abuse. Time to press the reset button on the internet and reevaluate the whole thing.

Davidth88

Never mind the child/parent spaces.

I am always amazed by the number of miracles I see on a wet day ( or near Christmas ) in my local Tescos.

All the disabled peoples' spaces full and not a sign of a disabled person ( or a blue badge ).

It reminds me of the great thing a TV reporter did one time in England , basically she collared people parked in the disabled bays without a blue badge and asked them general questions like did they go skiing , their faces when she asked if they could ski how comes they were in a disabled bay ! Great TV.


Some people are seriously selfish !

Barely There

I'll always park in a P&C space if there's one free.

Less chance of the car getting scraped from the adjacent user opening their car door.

Wouldn't feel guilty in the least about using them, if you're incapable of using a normal space with a child then you're an incapable parent in the first place.

dan1895

Barely There wrote: »

I'll always park in a P&C space if there's one free.

Less chance of the car getting scraped from the adjacent user opening their car door.

Wouldn't feel guilty in the least about using them, if you're incapable of using a normal space with a child then you're an incapable parent in the first place.

You don't have a clue what your talking about. Try loading a heavy car seat into the back of the car without enough room to open the door fully. Other people's bad parking hardly makes one an incompetent parent.

Flippyfloppy

Barely There wrote: »

I'll always park in a P&C space if there's one free.

Less chance of the car getting scraped from the adjacent user opening their car door.

Wouldn't feel guilty in the least about using them, if you're incapable of using a normal space with a child then you're an incapable parent in the first place.

And now I see why you chose that username

Barely There

dan1895 wrote: »

You don't have a clue what your talking about. Try loading a heavy car seat into the back of the car without enough room to open the door fully. Other people's bad parking hardly makes one an incompetent parent.

Tried it loads of times without any issues.

Have to laugh at the drama-queens trying to turn what's a relatively simple operation into some kind of herculean task. How they manage to dress themselves in the morning without injuring themselves is beyond me.

Suckler

Barely There wrote: »

Have to laugh at the drama-queens ....

Drama queens indeed.....

Barely There wrote: »

... if you're incapable of using a normal space with a child then you're an incapable parent in the first place.

Menas

Worst trolling attempt ever!