Eircode for Waterford?

jmcc · 13-07-2015 11:34am #1

Seems that some places in Waterford have an X prefix. Cool.

O Riain · 13-07-2015 12:00pm

How stupid is that, why not just make it W or WD to save confusion. Also adjacent areas won't have similar postcodes but will in fact have completely random post codes. Absolutely insane.

jmcc · 13-07-2015 12:28pm

O Riain wrote: »

How stupid is that, why not just make it W or WD to save confusion. Also adjacent areas won't have similar postcodes but will in fact have completely random post codes. Absolutely insane.

Because they paid some company 27 million Euro to come up with this scheme? Basing it on care registration codes might have been problematic because they needed a simple three character routing code at the start. Waterford (and Ferrybank) have an X91 code. The other four characters seem to be a unique property identifier. The reason they are not sequential appears to be down to spammers and junk mailers. If they were, then a particular location could be targeted by just stepping through the location identifiers.

Wait until some of the KKers find out they are in the X-Files now.

Regards...jmcc

CardBordWindow · 13-07-2015 12:31pm

I'm sure most Kilkenny people who had to put Via Waterford on their post have a X prefix now.
Makes sense not to have the prefix letter tied down by county boundaries so.

jmcc · 13-07-2015 12:35pm

CardBordWindow wrote: »

I'm sure most Kilkenny people who had to put Via Waterford on their post have a X prefix now.
Makes sense not to have the prefix letter tied down by county boundaries so.

Just checked Kilmacow, it seems to have an X91 code. John Paul Phelan (FG TD) will be upset about this Waterford "lebensraumt" invasion.

Regards...jmcc

beyondbelief67 · 13-07-2015 12:39pm

Wonder if putting this into the sat nav for visiting relatives might make it work better ? My cousin nearly had a heart attack last year when I told him we didn't have post codes for him to put into his sat nav to find us, then again will they even work on ones here ?

thomasm · 13-07-2015 1:59pm

beyondbelief67 wrote: »

Wonder if putting this into the sat nav for visiting relatives might make it work better ? My cousin nearly had a heart attack last year when I told him we didn't have post codes for him to put into his sat nav to find us, then again will they even work on ones here ?

Wont work with Sat Navs or Google Maps apparently :eek:

Big Lar · 13-07-2015 4:05pm

thomasm wrote: »

Wont work with Sat Navs or Google Maps apparently :eek:

Or Ebay

beyondbelief67 · 13-07-2015 4:20pm

Big Lar wrote: »

Or Ebay

Maybe it's just going to take a while for eBay to accept it or something, as the letter states it will make it easier to shop online, yet so far it doesn't look like it is any use at all !

Cabaal · 13-07-2015 4:31pm

CardBordWindow wrote: »

I'm sure most Kilkenny people who had to put Via Waterford on their post have a X prefix now.
Makes sense not to have the prefix letter tied down by county boundaries so.

Problem is a large amount of delivery company's including An Post have no plans to use eircodes

Harry Palmr · 13-07-2015 4:34pm

Stupid nonsense, a system that is deliberately designed to be of no use except to government depts and utilities for collecting monies.

danjo-xx · 13-07-2015 6:59pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Stupid nonsense, a system that is deliberately designed to be of no use except to government depts and utilities for collecting monies.

It's not compulsory.

Wanderer78 · 13-07-2015 7:45pm

jebus this thing sounds like another waste of money service

wmpdd3 · 13-07-2015 8:46pm

Very interesting map they they use to identify houses, it us very up to date. It even has an extension that was built a month ago on it.

Harry Palmr · 13-07-2015 9:47pm

danjo-xx wrote: »

It's not compulsory.

It won't take long before all new or refreshed contracts will require a postcode.

katydid · 13-07-2015 11:10pm

thomasm wrote: »

Wont work with Sat Navs or Google Maps apparently :eek:

Not yet. Apparently it'll take six months or so

The Adversary · 14-07-2015 2:51am

jmcc wrote: »

Because they paid some company 27 million Euro to come up with this scheme? Basing it on care registration codes might have been problematic because they needed a simple three character routing code at the start. Waterford (and Ferrybank) have an X91 code. The other four characters seem to be a unique property identifier. The reason they are not sequential appears to be down to spammers and junk mailers. If they were, then a particular location could be targeted by just stepping through the location identifiers.

Wait until some of the KKers find out they are in the X-Files now.

Regards...jmcc

Absolutely glorious. Even as far as Mullinavat is listed as "Waterford" not "Via Waterford" and not "Waterford, Co.Kilkenny" (as google maps is fond of) Can't wait for their little heads to melt

FishOnABike · 14-07-2015 3:35am

The Adversary wrote: »

Absolutely glorious. Even as far as Mullinavat is listed as "Waterford" not "Via Waterford" and not "Waterford, Co.Kilkenny" (as google maps is fond of) Can't wait for their little heads to melt

X91 seems to cover an area from Slieverue to past Carroll's Cross on the N25 and Mullinavat to Tramore - approx 30 km x 30 km.

beazee · 14-07-2015 9:27am

FishOnABike wrote: »

X91 seems to cover an area from Slieverue to past Carroll's Cross on the N25 and Mullinavat to Tramore - approx 30 km x 30 km.

An area serviced by Waterford Mail Sorting Office, that's it.

fuzzy dunlop · 14-07-2015 9:59am

beazee wrote: »

An area serviced by Waterford Mail Sorting Office, that's it.

But, But, But people with the same county jersey should have their own.....Oh never mind;)

bluesfan · 14-07-2015 10:00am

beazee wrote: »

An area serviced by Waterford Mail Sorting Office, that's it.

Yes, according to a guy on the radio yesterday the first 3 digits of the postcode are based on the Sorting office. So if your mail goes through the Waterford Sorting office your postcode will be X91. The four digits after it are entirely random, making it impossible to work it out on your own. Any company wanting to use them will have to pay An Post a fee. How quickly sat navs and such pick the system up will depend on how much An Post decide to charge them.

FishOnABike · 14-07-2015 10:45am

bluesfan wrote: »

Yes, according to a guy on the radio yesterday the first 3 digits of the postcode are based on the Sorting office.

So of limited use to anybody other than An Post unless they organise their logistics in the exact same manner as An Post and even then they will have to pay to decipher the random part of the code.

danjo-xx · 14-07-2015 7:44pm

FishOnABike wrote: »

So of limited use to anybody other than An Post unless they organise their logistics in the exact same manner as An Post and even then they will have to pay to decipher the random part of the code.

Nightline, they who run Parcel Motel and apparently the country's largest courier are on board with this, maybe in time it will all bare fruit, wouldn't hold me breath though.

Wanderer78 · 14-07-2015 7:55pm

danjo-xx wrote: »

Nightline, they who run Parcel Motel and apparently the country's largest courier are on board with this, maybe in time it will all bare fruit, wouldn't hold me breath though.

yea im gonna sit on this one for the moment and see how it works out but its showing some fairly serious holes already. sure it could sort all our problems

FishOnABike · 14-07-2015 8:02pm

jmcc wrote: »

Seems that some places in Waterford have an X prefix. Cool.

www.eircode.ie

Regards...jmcc

X marks the spot !

Trick of the Tail · 15-07-2015 9:35am

It's unlikely to be adopted by satnavs, because a) the govt want a huge sum for the database to be used commercially, and b) the database file is too big to be stored on most satnavs. Also, the database goes out of date so often, as new houses are built etc, that it's effectively useless.

There is only one good reason for using a database-reliant system, and that's so its use can be controlled. Read: sold.

It's a useless system. An Post don't need it; most delivery companies won't use it because of the cost; it only works if an address is assigned a code, there is no natural way to get an eircode otherwise.

The government actually spent over 50 million on this, and there's an ongoing cost to run it, all going to a foreign company.

They were offered the Irish-developed Loc8 code system, which is far better operationally but not so easy to monetise, but turned down the offer.

A typical Irish government solution. Why do something properly when for more money you can really cock it up?

Wanderer78 · 15-07-2015 10:54am

Trick of the Tail wrote: »

They were offered the Irish-developed Loc8 code system, which is far better operationally but not so easy to monetise, but turned down the offer.

A typical Irish government solution. Why do something properly when for more money you can really cock it up?

its very worrying to see our government do these type of deals whens theres so many capable irish companies and people that can do it

looksee · 15-07-2015 11:55am

Er, voting machines anyone?

Fireman1 · 15-07-2015 8:07pm

Eircodes are not postcodes. They are property registration numbers. Just like your car needs a reg. Number so it can be efficiently taxed or fined, your property needs a reg. Number.
If they had said they were introducing property registration numbers there would have been an outcry. The anti water charges brigade would have wet themselves.

nobody would bother to remember them. Call it a postcode and people rushed to get theirs.

katydid · 15-07-2015 9:07pm

Fireman1 wrote: »

Eircodes are not postcodes. They are property registration numbers. Just like your car needs a reg. Number so it can be efficiently taxed or fined, your property needs a reg. Number.
If they had said they were introducing property registration numbers there would have been an outcry. The anti water charges brigade would have wet themselves. nobody would bother to remember them. Call it a postcode and people rushed to get theirs.

Rubbish. Firstly, no one rushed to get their codes. They were sent them in the post.

Secondly, they are not registration numbers of any kind. The people that need to know who lives in what property already have that information. they don't need another set of numbers.

You're a wee bit paranoid.

BuffyBot · 15-07-2015 9:31pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

its very worrying to see our government do these type of deals whens theres so many capable irish companies and people that can do it

..queue claims of "job for the boys", "same old people getting the contracts", "brown envelope" claims if it was awarded to an Irish company. Folks are never happy.

The funny thing is that all these wah-wah doom and gloom claims are practically identical to those mooted when the UK introduced postcodes many moons ago. Yet, it's proven to work out fine in the long run.

Eircode for Waterford?

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