Liverpool FC News/Gossip/Rumours Summer '15

Agent Coulson

rarnes1 wrote: »

Big call as a bad defeat and the writing would be on the wall for him.

Lovren shouldn't be anywhere near the team.

Agreed he should be anywhere near the starting team.

If he drops him he won't recover whatever tiny bit of confidence he has left.

If he plays him and he has a mare that's him shot for the season.

If he plays him and he does ok that's just gives both of them big heads till the next fcuk up.

Magico Gonzalez

~Rebel~ wrote: »

With Lazar on loan, and Ibe not looking quite ready for consistent responsibility, i'd still like another quick, skillful wing-forward type of player. We're actually pretty weak there - Ibe being the only one that gives natural width on the right, while we dont have anyone to offer it on the left, unless you count Moreno. Lallana, Coutinho and Firmino all more comfortable/effective pulling inside.

Also, a discernible style and approach would be nice...

For United, I think i'd like;

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Mig

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Skrtel--Sakho
Clyne----Lucas----Moreno

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Hendo---Milner

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Firmino

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Ings--Benteke

Lucas was awful against west ham, he was physically not up to it. The game passed him by as he went chasing after it.

Can would be a better option.

5starpool

klose wrote: »

My favourite fabio aurellio gif

Harry Palmr

rarnes1 wrote: »

Big call as a bad defeat and the writing would be on the wall for him.

Lovren shouldn't be anywhere near the team.

Never overlook the power of a redemption narrative. Lovren will be played by Jim Carey Dolph Lundgren in the movie, an obvious 'Oscar bait' career move.

klose

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I don't see Rodgers dropping Lovren for the Utd game.

That just reminded me if that lolfest last season, the lovren "clearence" and brad jones diving the wrong way for rooneys goal :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZL-ePP6VbY

Agent Coulson

https://twitter.com/BBCWiltsSport/status/638392107464585216


Send him back to Liverpool please to recover.

https://twitter.com/TheAnfieldChat/status/638389459411673088

Harry Palmr

Please The loan list is getting stupidly long (hard work!)

Agent Coulson

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Please The loan list is getting stupidly long (hard work!)

The old boys list will just get longer then

~Rebel~

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

Lucas was awful against west ham, he was physically not up to it. The game passed him by as he went chasing after it.

Can would be a better option.

Even with that, i'd still have Lucas every day of the week over Can in a role Can has never really impressed in for us. Ideally i'd rather a slightly more mobile upgrade on Lucas - but Lucas is the best specialised DM we have. I trust Lucas to up his game when it counts more than almost anyone else in the squad.

Jesus Wept

Agent Coulson wrote: »

That just brings back to many painful memories when we had the best player in the world and now have a manager still living off what he did for the club.

What a winner.

Magico Gonzalez

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Even with that, i'd still have Lucas every day of the week over Can in a role Can has never really impressed in for us. Ideally i'd rather a slightly more mobile upgrade on Lucas - but Lucas is the best specialised DM we have. I trust Lucas to up his game when it counts more than almost anyone else in the squad.

When it counts?

I'd have thought a home game at Anfield after just being brought back into the team was when it counts?

It's not about upping his game for me, physically I don't think he has really recovered from his injuries. He is slower and after an hour was basically a passenger.

Can hasn't really impressed there but the only thing Man U have really managed to get right is their MF. Can't send someone in there based on the hope he'll find his legs.

Looks to be a busted flush to me, shame, I'd love to have the Lucas of old back but the current version looks like he is a long way off physically.

Vicxas

Da Gea gone, thats a big blow for Utd.

Im hoping our strikers are actually able to get a shot on target by next week.

Agent Coulson

klose wrote: »

My favourite fabio aurellio gif

kfallon

Keep the gifs coming lads, it is international week after all and we've just had one of the worst league results in our history so anything to lift the mood!!

Agent Coulson

Have scored direct from a free kick since Luis left?

Jesus Wept

kfallon

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Have scored direct from a free kick since Luis left?

Gerrard v Basel

MightyMandarin

Grayditch

Forgot about that Lovren peno. Chap is such a disaster.

MightyMandarin

Grayditch wrote: »

Forgot about that Lovren peno. Chap is such a disaster.

Is there anything he's actually done well for us?

Grayditch

MightyMandarin wrote: »

Is there anything he's actually done well for us?

He's put in a handful of decent shifts I guess, but as with any defender who's a serious liability, he should be dropped so the problem can assessed.

Turtyturd

MightyMandarin wrote: »

Is there anything he's actually done well for us?

He's made our other defenders look better.

MightyMandarin

Grayditch wrote: »

He's put in a handful of decent shifts I guess, but as with any defender who's a serious liability, he should be dropped so the problem can assessed.

I think if we'd played Sakho in the first 3 games, we'd have had the same results.

Lovren needs to be protected with other players staying close to him, otherwise he sh*ts the bed. That's not really a trait I like my starting CB to have.

LFC CONNAUGHTON

The Suarez gifs are making me feel both happy in a nostalgic sort of way and pissed off at how downhill everything's went.

Agent Coulson

MightyMandarin wrote: »

Is there anything he's actually done well for us?

Other than Skrtel scoring as many goals as own goals for us has any defender done anything of note for us in the last three seasons.

Agent Coulson

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Other than Skrtel scoring as many goals as own goals for us has any defender done anything of note for us in the last three seasons.

Skrtel is seen as undroppable the last 3 years or so! That says a lot

monkey9

Too much talk about De Jan Looverns in here for my liking today. Let's just forget about him for the week we have of international football.

YouTookMyName

klose wrote: »

My favourite fabio aurellio gif

5starpool

MightyMandarin

5starpool wrote: »

That you on your holidays to Liverpool?

monkey9

5starpool wrote: »

Who's that?

monkey9

A lot of those gifs are making me nostalgic for the Rafa era. Christ, they were great days.

5starpool

That's Taiwo Awoniyi, the '18' year old Nigerian we've signed.

monkey9

5starpool wrote: »

That's Taiwo Awoniyi, the '18' year old Nigerian we've signed.

Nice watch.

MightyMandarin

5starpool wrote: »

That's Taiwo Awoniyi, the '18' year old Nigerian we've signed.

Bit like this 18yr old then, I gather.

5starpool

5starpool wrote: »

That's Taiwo Awoniyi, the '18' year old Nigerian we've signed.

Ha!

Reminds me of the Lazio 17 year old youth player



Edit, beaten to it by my alternate account

corwill

rarnes1 wrote: »

Ha!

Reminds me of the Lazio 17 year old youth player

Forest Whittaker was class in The Last King of Scotland, in all fairness.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Knex. wrote: »

Wouldn't mind ditching Skrtel and Lovren, and going with Gomez and Sakho at CB for the year, being honest.

Skrtel, I still don't rate as highly as some, and Lovren, well its hard to excuse him when he goes and makes mistakes like Saturday.

It'll probably never happen, but I think you've a shout of having to CB's there that can lay a foundation for the future, in Gomez and Sakho, and you can't really say the same for Skrtel and Lovren.

Honestly, I don't see Lovrenka being dropped for next week and, must as I dislike him playing for us, I would agree with starting him. If we don't then his confidence will be shot and we will get SFA for him next year.

Sakho is by far our best defender but his injuries are becoming a problem for a projected starting CB. I would prefer Illori and Sakho but with Illori going on loan, Toure should come into the equation before Gomez.

Je suis Mario wrote: »

This just because....:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

Luckycharms_74

Was bit depressed today but popped over the the United thread and it cheered me up no end.
It's meltdown over there

~Rebel~

MightyMandarin wrote: »

Lovren needs to be protected with other players staying close to him, otherwise he sh*ts the bed. That's not really a trait I like my starting CB to have.

Especially worrisome when Skrtel has the same problem - great when he's not left too exposed, but if there's space to either side he's always liable to do something stupid - or else nothing at all.

Sakho's about the only one who can just cope with the game regardless of formation.

Agent Coulson

I wouldn't mind seeing Can and Sakho as the starting CB's for the league cup game.

Potential Underachiever

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Was bit depressed today but popped over the the United thread and it cheered me up no end.
It's meltdown over there

You naughty boy! You should still be in mourning today, no joy should be sought from anywhere, just reflect on Saturdays defeat and say two hail marys.

Edit : I'm in such a depression about the game I mistakenly thought it was only yesterday!

mav79

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I wouldn't mind seeing Can and Sakho as the staring CB's for the league cup game.

I don't see the point of playing players out of position, we have enough CB's without playing a midfielder there.

Agent Coulson

mav79 wrote: »

I don't see the point of playing players out of position, we have enough CB's without playing a midfielder there.

I think Can's long term future could be as a CB and not a midfielder.

rob316

My wife's uncle is a sports journalist based in Boston and Long Island, told me earlier the next Liverpool manager will be Klopp from whats hes been hearing, he fits FSG and Liverpool appeals to him. He explicitly said any run of bad results and Rodgers will be replaced.

Take it with a pinch of salt but the only other Liverpool stuff he ever told me was Brendan Rodgers would be the next Liverpool manager 100% when there was pictures of Henry and Martinez floating around.

monkey9

rob316 wrote: »

My wife's uncle is a sports journalist based in Boston and Long Island, told me earlier the next Liverpool manager will be Klopp from whats hes been hearing, he fits FSG and Liverpool appeals to him. He explicitly said any run of bad results and Rodgers will be replaced.

Take it with a pinch of salt but the only other Liverpool stuff he ever told me was Brendan Rodgers would be the next Liverpool manager 100% when there was pictures of Henry and Martinez floating around.

It doesn't sound so far fetched. I do genuinely think Klopp has a lot of respect for Liverpool as a club with it's history and tradition. You only have to see him at Anfield last pre season when we played Dortmund in a friendly.

mav79

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I think Can's long term future could be as a CB and not a midfielder.

I can't see it, and why would you play him ahead of the likes of Ilori or Gomez. His defensive positioning is probably the worst part of his game imo, I don't like the idea of him even playing DM yet. He did well in a back three with Sakho and Skrtel for a while last year but it never looked natural for him.

Agent Coulson

So when does Rodgers get the bullet and Klopp start the sooner the better.

Agent Coulson

mav79 wrote: »

I can't see it, and why would you play him ahead of the likes of Ilori or Gomez. His defensive positioning is probably the worst part of his game imo, I don't like the idea of him even playing DM yet. He did well in a back three with Sakho and Skrtel for a while last year but it never looked natural for him.

Well clearly the manager doesn't rate Ilori at all or he wouldn't have been loaned out for two seasons and look like he is about to be loaned out again.

Gomez is a shout but I think he needs a break for a few games.

The position Can has played his best games for Liverpool since he joined are CB and CB is where he can read the game the best and be on the front foot something Brendan seems to like in a player.

monkey9

Agent Coulson wrote: »

So when does Rodgers get the bullet and Klopp start the sooner the better.

Klopp is taking a few months out. This is why i was happy to give Rodgers another season. Give him a chance to turn things round and if it's not happening, there'll be a few managers available around Christmas time by all accounts.