Liverpool FC News/Gossip/Rumours Summer '15

rob316

Has anyone reliable backed up this Traore transfer yet? DiMarzio and Romano are bluffers.

redzerdrog

Hollister11 wrote: »

My opinion

Are you drunk?

MarkY91

My mate who knows of all the up and coming players etc thinks traore is a good signing. I'm yet to get his opinion on the fee though. I'm sure he will laugh his are off though as would I if I weren't a Liverpool fan.

Kerrigooney

There's talk on Twitter that Traore is talking to us,Aston Villa and Stoke. Wtf?

Harry Palmr

Twitter says......nothing.

marno21

K-9 wrote: »

Rafa bought about the same if not more.

Strange criticism tbh.

Wouldn't mind a combined net spend & Rafa debate to top off the weekend.

Agent Coulson

Not looking good for Moreno.

Brendan Rodgers to hand teenager Joe Gomez debut in opening Premier League game

19-year-old could start at left-back at Stoke after convincing Liverpool boss he can play at top level and does not need a loan move

Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers is likely to hand a Premier League debut to teenager Joe Gomez in the opening weekend trip to Stoke City.
Gomez, 18, was signed for £3.5 million from Charlton in the summer and it was initially believed he would have to bide his time before his senior bow

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/11781258/Liverpool-news-Brendan-Rodgers-to-hand-teenager-Joe-Gomez-debut-in-opening-Premier-League-game.html

MightyMandarin

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Not looking good for Moreno.

Brendan Rodgers to hand teenager Joe Gomez debut in opening Premier League game

Not surprising, given Moreno's injuries and Gomez' top performances. More competition for places is welcome. I'd be pissed if Moreno was cemented as #1 LB despite his average-sh*te performances last year.

corwill

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Not looking good for Moreno.

Brendan Rodgers to hand teenager Joe Gomez debut in opening Premier League game



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/11781258/Liverpool-news-Brendan-Rodgers-to-hand-teenager-Joe-Gomez-debut-in-opening-Premier-League-game.html

And there was me thinking it would be Clyne that Johnson would climb all over for the bullet header past Minger in the 93rd minute. Maybe Clyne concedes the corner immediately beforehand.

Knex*

Fair play to him. I still have faith in Moreno, though, so hopefully competition can kick him on.

Gomez making the team at 18, straight away, is pretty massive to be fair to him.

Allyall

Update and more reliable

barcastuff ‏@barcastuff 14 mins14 minutes ago Barcelona B winger Adama (19) is on the verge of signing for Liverpool, after medical tests. Clubs still have to close a deal. [rac1]


Barca seem to be adamant about the buy back clause.

Knex*

We're just absolutely having the craic in the transfer market this summer. Fair play to the biys.

Harry Palmr

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Not looking good for Moreno.

Brendan Rodgers to hand teenager Joe Gomez debut in opening Premier League game

Good, a kick up the backside is no bad thing for Moreno. It important to have some competition within the squad. No slackers.

LuckyLloyd

Not surprised Moreno would get beaten out for a starting spot. He's rubbish.

K-9

marno21 wrote: »

Wouldn't mind a combined net spend & Rafa debate to top off the weekend.

The number of players point is one I find odd though, particularly when Rodgers was left the mess of a few years of poor transfers at the end of Rafa/H&G, Hodgson and Kenny. Criticise the quality, not the quantity.

300 million is big but obviously needed since we solf 2 of our 3 best players in about a year.

corwill

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Not surprised Moreno would get beaten out for a starting spot. He's rubbish.

Paolo Maldini would have looked like Warren Barton in that back 4 last year.

Harry Palmr

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Not surprised Moreno would get beaten out for a starting spot. He's rubbish.

Its this kind of insight we all look forward to when we see your name. Do you have a good word for anyone or anything at Liverpool?

BorneTobyWilde

I think we'll have a great season
We came 6th last season
How did Rodgers manage that
We had no strikers no goals
We went on great run after xmas
6th was impressive considering

BorneTobyWilde

Toni Kroos ,deal done

http://metro.co.uk/2015/08/03/liverpool-ready-to-sign-toni-kroos-from-real-madrid-in-35m-transfer-5325537/

Welcome to Liverpool .

Harry Palmr

**** me, Kroos, Reus and Muller. Its all happening.

Hoki

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Not surprised Moreno would get beaten out for a starting spot. He's rubbish.

The beacon of positivity strikes again. He had a poor season sprinkled with some very encouraging performances. He's a young kid who has just played his first season in a new league in a foreign country. Give him a break ffs. He had zero competition for his place last season so perhaps this will light a fire under his arse. You don't always have to burn bridges at the first sign of doubt.

Charlie19

No point including Suarez and Sterling but its not too bad of an XI.

...............Reina
M. Kelly Coates agger aurelio
..Adam Aquaman Downing
......Kuyt..Carroll..Maxi

Subs:
Suso, Sahin, Shelvey, Spearing, Cole

Full list of players sold. http://www.lfchistory.net/Transfers/ByManager/25-0

garra

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Toni Kroos ,deal done

http://metro.co.uk/2015/08/03/liverpool-ready-to-sign-toni-kroos-from-real-madrid-in-35m-transfer-5325537/

Welcome to Liverpool .

Yeah the same page contains a link for an article claiming we are bout to sign Sissoko from Newcastle too.

Considering each players qualities, which player do we need more: Kroos or Sissoko? and why

Turtyturd

Complaining about Lloyd is the new complaining about Alan. It's a gimmick, laugh at it or ignore it, but there's no need to constantly derail the thread with it.

BorneTobyWilde

garra wrote: »

Yeah the same page contains a link for an article claiming we are bout to sign Sissoko from Newcastle too.

Considering each players qualities, which player do we need more: Kroos or Sissoko? and why

It's all made belief anyway. Mini Metro seem to add names to a hat, clubs to a hat ,pick one from each and put it out there as possible transfer.

Agent Coulson

Kroos would cost close to £40m.. Rumor/reports over the last few days were the club would break the club record on one more signing.


His wages would be a stumbling block more than the transfer I bet they would be close to the £200k mark.

brevity

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

It's all made belief anyway. Mini Metro seem to add names to a hat, clubs to a hat ,pick one from each and put it out there as possible transfer.

MD1990

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Not surprised Moreno would get beaten out for a starting spot. He's rubbish.

He was excellent at Sevilla. Even Real were interested at one point.A bit of patience is required at times. Moreno has the attributes to be a very good LB for us.

Agent Coulson

How many of our defenders have looked good over the last 3 seasons.

OwaynOTT

Agent Coulson wrote: »

How many of our defenders have looked good over the last 3 seasons.

All of them but especially Can. That hair! Swooning

martingriff

Turtyturd wrote: »

Complaining about Lloyd is the new complaining about Alan. It's a gimmick, laugh at it or ignore it, but there's no need to constantly derail the thread with it.

People criticizing what someone but on a post how awful people will think this is a forum for debating or something.

monkey9

Knex. wrote: »

We're just absolutely having the craic in the transfer market this summer. Fair play to the biys.

Yeah but Ballotelli.................

monkey9

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Not surprised Moreno would get beaten out for a starting spot. He's rubbish.

Of course he is Lloyd.

NukaCola

Hoki wrote: »

He had a poor season sprinkled with some very encouraging performances. He's a young kid who has just played his first season in a new league in a foreign country. Give him a break ffs.

Not trying to take away from your point but he's a 23 year old man.

I expect big things from him this season. Last season, at times, he looked awful. Plenty to suggest he'll come good, but he's had some very worrying performances also.

jesus_thats_gre

K-9 wrote: »

Rafa bought about the same if not more.

Strange criticism tbh.

I wouldn't consider 'mind boggling' to be criticism.

In fairness, it is a surprisingly large number of players in 3 seasons.

Jesus Wept

gnite mates

LuckyLloyd

Turtyturd wrote: »

Complaining about Lloyd is the new complaining about Alan. It's a gimmick, laugh at it or ignore it, but there's no need to constantly derail the thread with it.

Me thinking Moreno is rubbish is hardly a new opinion. I do enjoy the various efforts people make at North Korea Press Office work. The whinging at every negative perspective on the club is hilarious.

I really hope we start winning lots of games because this is tired.

sword1

Who will be on penalties,henderson,benteke or could it be milner or ings if playing.I presume it will be henderson but would hope for benteke

not yet

Agent Coulson wrote: »

How many of our defenders have looked good over the last 3 seasons.

We have defenders...? :eek:

murpho999

Find it hard to argue with Lloyd's point on Moreno. People think back to his goal against Spurs last August. but he was signed as a defender and there were some woeful performances in that regard last season.

Only difference is that I wouldn't describe him as 'rubbish' or write him off as a player as he is young and was in his first season.

Either way , can't wait to get started now. Very big few months ahead that will decide the future direction of the club for next few seasons. It's either Rodgers gone or safe by Christmas. Many posters' doubts or worries will be confirmed or refuted over the next 20 games.

gafferino

sword1 wrote: »

Who will be on penalties,henderson,benteke or could it be milner or ings if playing.I presume it will be henderson but would hope for benteke

I would have thought Milner actually. He is a good free taker and I'm pretty sure he took some penalties for City when Yaya wasn't around.

I don't think it should be Henderson. I don't think he's a natural peno or free kick taker despite his desire to be so.

murpho999

murpho999 wrote: »

Find it hard to argue with Lloyd's point on Moreno. .................

Only difference is that I wouldn't describe him as 'rubbish' or write him off as a player as he is young and was in his first season............

Ok

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Not surprised Moreno would get beaten out for a starting spot. He's rubbish.

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Me thinking Moreno is rubbish is hardly a new opinion.................

LuckyLloyd

The player's most ardent defenders would surely accept that getting beaten out during preseason by Gomes would be a bad sign, right? Believe you me, I have no interest in Moreno failing. We can't afford all of these guys to flop.

murpho999

Augeo wrote: »

Ok

It's simple I wouldn't disagree with Lloyd that Moreno was poor last season but I wouldn't just class him as 'rubbish' as bluntly as Lloyd has just yet.

Seems quite simple to me.

8-10

He has certainly been rubbish, but I think he's got enough potential to keep in the squad for sure. Manquillo on the otherhand looked properly rubbish with no potential to turn it around so I'm glad he's packed his bags. With Moreno I'd be disappointed if he left, I disagree with Lloyd, there's a player in there. Only way I'd sell him is for a stupid profit but that won't happen. So while he's under contract for a number of years then I'm happy to keep him and see how he develops. I reckon he's the sort of player who will excel when the team starts playing well.

There's a gulf between a player being poor one season and being rubbish, a huge gulf, that's a simple concept to me.

LuckyLloyd

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

The player's most ardent defenders would surely accept that getting beaten out during preseason by Gomes would be a bad sign, right? ............

Depends on how good Gomes is, to be fair.
I'm not at all able to offer an opinion on that as yet.

5starpool

Moreno was rubbish in large parts last season, and it's telling that an 18 year old right sided centre back is being preferred to him at left back for the start of the season. It is still far from certain though that he won't turn it around and turn into a really good player for us this (and in future) seasons.

LuckyLloyd

8-10 wrote: »

He has certainly been rubbish, but I think he's got enough potential to keep in the squad for sure. Manquillo on the otherhand looked properly rubbish with no potential to turn it around so I'm glad he's packed his bags. With Moreno I'd be disappointed if he left, I disagree with Lloyd, there's a player in there. Only way I'd sell him is for a stupid profit but that won't happen. So while he's under contract for a number of years then I'm happy to keep him and see how he develops. I reckon he's the sort of player who will excel when the team starts playing well.

I suppose I disagree on how much potential he displayed, but I think we can all agree with how you phrased it - "been rubbish" rather than "is rubbish".

As Nuka noted above he's 23 and had 61 top level appearances before he joined us. I'm not sure how many more hapless defensive performances can be explained away by him 'having potential'. But I guess we'll see what happens this year.

brevity

For me, I'm much more concerned about how our defence performs as a whole next season. Moreno, Skrtel and Lovren is a dangerous mix. I'm not sure how Rodgers and the new team plan to improve for next season but its fair to say that if they don't get it right, we are looking at wholesale changes.