Liverpool FC News/Gossip/Rumours Summer '15

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Agent Coulson wrote: »

4.6 games after his return.

Better than last year, so?

MightyMandarin

rob316 wrote: »

Dom King going with it too. Would be a huge boost, serious talent when fit.

We were skint for attacking players last season we seem to have a lot now.going to be tough keeping everyone happy.

Injuries aside, Sturridge is a top striker and one of the best in the PL on his day. He's a great player to lead the line, brilliant in link-up play with midfield and he's a great finisher; he also has a very good record in big games against the top4.

Even if he only gets 20 appearances this season, I think he could still reach double figures. Hopefully his hip surgery did something to stop his problems, or at least makes them more infrequent.

How he'll link up with Benteke remains to be seen, but no harm having a top striker fit.

Jesus Wept

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Enricky----
----Clyne-Turtle-

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can

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Ibe-Gordon-Mills-Firmy
--Big Phil--Sterling--
--Tekkers--Sturridge

Bench
Minge
Mario
Dave
Agger
McLovern
Lucas
Orgy

Charlie19

The Rodgers wrote: »

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Enricky----
----Clyne-Turtle-

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can

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Ibe-Gordon-Mills-Firmy
--Big Phil--Sterling--
--Tekkers--Sturridge

Bench
Minge
Mario
Dave
Agger
McLovern
Lucas
Orgy

That has to be one of the craziest posts I've read on here.

Not even a mention of breakfast.

Allyall

Charlie19 wrote: »

That has to be one of the craziest posts I've read on here.

Not even a mention of breakfast.

2nd and last sub.

Glico Man

Charlie19 wrote: »

That has to be one of the craziest posts I've read on here.

Not even a mention of breakfast.

Allyall wrote: »

2nd and last sub.

Minge Orgy... breakfast of champions

Rigger must be on the sauce again :pac:

RayCon

Its decision time :

weldoninhio

MD1990 wrote: »

Outside Bojan you have probably not even seen the others play at all. Bojan would make our bench thats it.

Not everyone only has Prem blinkers on. Some of us know the game exists outside of the bestest league in the bestest country in the whole wide world ever

BMMachine

Mr Alan seems like one of these people who will just never be happy until Rafael Benitez is manager again.
Meaning he will never be happy

asteroids over berlin

Demosthenese wrote: »

33/1 is terrible odds! At least your garden will look good though.

I'll put down another €50 so, make my winnings more respectable for you! I will post up the docket!
My back garden already looks good but now I can glide and piss my neighbour off a little bit more - the jealous fcuk!

Cartman78

BMMachine wrote: »

Mr Alan seems like one of these people who will just never be happy until Rafael Benitez is manager again.
Meaning he will never be happy

I think for overall harmony in the thread, we would need to create a hybrid-clone version of Dalglish and Rafa to be in charge, along with a cyborg Xabi Alonso in midfield. And Balotelli up front obviously after recovering from his bus accident

Francie Barrett

BMMachine wrote: »

Mr Alan seems like one of these people who will just never be happy until Rafael Benitez is manager again.
Meaning he will never be happy

I don't understand why people are having this debate at the start of a new season. Whether he's wanted or not, Rodgers has been appointed as the manager to lead us into this season and nothing at this stage is going to change that. We should all be getting behind him and the players in the hope that things come good this season. If decent results don't materialize, at that point we can certainly entertain the notion of sacking Rodgers. But to talk about it now is just silly.

Mr.H

I dont get all the Sturridge bashing in here. We are talking about the same Daniel Sturridge who came here in January 2013 and scored 40 goals in 66 games.

His playing record

2012/13 - 16 apps out of possible 21 (11 goals)
2013/14 - 33 apps out of possible 43 (24 goals)
2014/15 - 17 apps out of possible 58 (5 goals)

Now of course last season was a horrible one but its not like he has been a sick note for the 2 and a half years he has been here ffs. He has had one really bad injury that dogged him last season and he never really recovered. But the amount of sh1t people on here spout about him youd swear he was in the same bracket as Agger Vermalean Wilshere and Aquilani

Knex*

Mr.H wrote: »

I dont get all the Sturridge bashing in here. We are talking about the same Daniel Sturridge who came here in January 2013 and scored 40 goals in 66 games.

His playing record

2012/13 - 16 apps out of possible 21 (11 goals)
2013/14 - 33 apps out of possible 43 (24 goals)
2014/15 - 17 apps out of possible 58 (5 goals)

Now of course last season was a horrible one but its not like he has been a sick note for the 2 and a half years he has been here ffs. He has had one really bad injury that dogged him last season and he never really recovered. But the amount of sh1t people on here spout about him youd swear he was in the same bracket as Agger Vermalean Wilshere and Aquilani

By the time he's back in October, he'll have been injured for a total of 384 days, since he joined us, and have missed 63 games.

66 games in two and a half years is a poor return. He should be on around 80-100, to not be labelled as injury prone.

Daemonic

Mr.H wrote: »

I dont get all the Sturridge bashing in here. We are talking about the same Daniel Sturridge who came here in January 2013 and scored 40 goals in 66 games.

His playing record

2012/13 - 16 apps out of possible 21 (11 goals)
2013/14 - 33 apps out of possible 43 (24 goals)
2014/15 - 17 apps out of possible 58 (5 goals)

Now of course last season was a horrible one but its not like he has been a sick note for the 2 and a half years he has been here ffs. He has had one really bad injury that dogged him last season and he never really recovered. But the amount of sh1t people on here spout about him youd swear he was in the same bracket as Agger Vermalean Wilshere and Aquilani

He's not far from that bracket - http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/players/2578/daniel_sturridge_injury.html

We'd all love him fit and firing, but the last year has shown us the club must plan without him and treat his availability as a bonus until he proves the injuries are behind him.

NukaCola

Sturridge is great striker to have fit but he cant be relied on. Any games he plays this season will be a bonus.

We got him quiet cheap but if he doesn't overcome his injurys he will cost us big over the lifetime of his contract.

With 4 years left on his 150k per week contract I really hope he starts playing more. We cant really afford to pay a player who misses so many games that wage no matter how good he is.

Mr.H

He missed 15 games in his first 2 seasons at the club. Is that not a good return? I assume most of those games where down to rotation not actual injuries (more than mere strains and knocks that everyone gets)

Of course we shouldnt be over reliant on him but some of the crap spouted about him youd swear he was a complete crock. Last season was a bad season for him but his injury record was non existent in his first season and a half

most of the stuff on the physioroom site just shows the same injury. For example they have hip/thigh injury feb 3rd and again feb 25th and again mar 2nd where in fact its just the same injury

He has had one injury since he came here in his hip/thigh region. This injury also hurt his ankle which is obviously connected via his leg. Its not like he has been playing 1 game on 2 games off since he arrived here.

His injuries only happened last season. ONLY last season.

I agree that its a bad idea to rely solely on him anyway but to call him a crock is a crock

mosstin

Mr.H wrote: »

He missed 15 games in his first 2 seasons at the club. Is that not a good return? I assume most of those games where down to rotation not actual injuries (more than mere strains and knocks that everyone gets)

Of course we shouldnt be over reliant on him but some of the crap spouted about him youd swear he was a complete crock. Last season was a bad season for him but his injury record was non existent in his first season and a half

most of the stuff on the physioroom site just shows the same injury. For example they have hip/thigh injury feb 3rd and again feb 25th and again mar 2nd where in fact its just the same injury

He has had one injury since he came here in his hip/thigh region. This injury also hurt his ankle which is obviously connected via his leg. Its not like he has been playing 1 game on 2 games off since he arrived here.

His injuries only happened last season. ONLY last season.

I agree that its a bad idea to rely solely on him anyway but to call him a crock is a crock

I think it's perfectly reasonable to be worried about Sturridge specifically because it's the same injury. The fact that he's had extensive treatment on it and yet it's still flaring up and/or causing other injuries is very worrying.
No-one questions his worth - his injuries rightly ask questions about his present value to us.

martyos121

Are people forgetting he was injured in the 13/14 season too? Of course it was nowhere near as bad but he missed around 6-8 weeks altogether so to say his injury problems only started last season is nonsense.

Knex*

He missed 21 games in his first season and a half, and since then until he's back in October, he'll have missed another 42.

If he wasn't injury prone, there's no way we'd have singed, Benteke, Ings and Origi, really.

Mr.H

mosstin wrote: »

I think it's perfectly reasonable to be worried about Sturridge specifically because it's the same injury. The fact that he's had extensive treatment on it and yet it's still flaring up and/or causing other injuries is very worrying.
No-one questions his worth - his injuries rightly ask questions about his present value to us.

Should there be a concern? yes of course

Should we plan for him not being in the team just case he never returns? of course

All I am saying is people are over reacting here about his injuries.

Last season he picked up an injury at the start of the season in his Thigh. He missed a few games and tried to come back early but had a major set back and was out for ages. He then returned but wasnt fit and didnt look it at all. They said he was still injured and sure enough he went again. Last season was an on going injury that wasnt treated properly.

Before last year he had one other stint where he missed a few games for us with an ankle problem. Before this injury it had been a year since he missed a few games for chelsea (although he was never given a chance at chelsea and they often left him out)

Before that injury it had been 3 YEARS since any injury of note and that was a virus ffs

He has had one serious injury in his whole career in that was last year


I have an issue with KNEX.'s graph as it doesnt give fact. It manipulates the reader into thinking they are separate instances of him missing games



Nov 2013 - Jan 2014 he misses 9 games
Dec 2013 - Jan 2014 he misses 9 games

That looks like he missed 18 games but they are the same 9 games

All these stats and graphs dont actually show anything. Sturridge has only had one bad injury in his whole career and none of these graphs show that

Mr.H

martyos121 wrote: »

Are people forgetting he was injured in the 13/14 season too? Of course it was nowhere near as bad but he missed around 6-8 weeks altogether so to say his injury problems only started last season is nonsense.

He missed 9 games

Knex. wrote: »

He missed 21 games in his first season and a half, and since then until he's back in October, he'll have missed another 42.

If he wasn't injury prone, there's no way we'd have singed, Benteke, Ings and Origi, really.

Missed 12 in his first season and a half according to your stats

brevity

...days to go!

Knex.

Knex. wrote: »

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If he wasn't injury prone, there's no way we'd have singed, Benteke, Ings and Origi, really.

We'd have signed Ings and Origi or similar imo.

All going well last season might be the low point of the lads career injury wise, I think he has the skills & intelligence to compensate for father time and loss of pace, I'm hoping he'll be a long standing team member and a contributing one.

If he does recover and plays 25/30 PL games a season and we also see Benteke shine we will have a serious front line with serious quality behind them in AM

asteroids over berlin

Dan Sturridge, will come good, we have sent him off for special specialist surgery and rehab, hopefully that will nail the head on his injury woes.

Sturridge, tekers, Coutinho, Firminho (or however you spell it) = big time danger for the opposition. Milner in midfield, lallana. great potential. Sell Henderson and Lucas and buy a couple of defenders and we would be in even better shape than the great shape we are in now. It's between Liverpool and Chelsea for me with Arsenal in the shadows waiting to pounce on Chelsea but unable to do so on the Pool. Brasso at the ready boys. Bring it on!!

LuckyLloyd

BMMachine wrote: »

Mr Alan seems like one of these people who will just never be happy until Rafael Benitez is manager again.
Meaning he will never be happy

Meh, I'd say he'll be perfectly happy if we get back to the level of consistent competitiveness we enjoyed circa 1999 - 2009 under Houllier and Benitez irrespective of which manager delivers it. Good strong contribution though, kudos.

murpho999

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Meh, I'd say he'll be perfectly happy if we get back to the level of consistent competitiveness we enjoyed circa 1999 - 2009 under Houllier and Benitez irrespective of which manager delivers it. Good strong contribution though, kudos.

I won't be happy till we get back to 1970 & 80's level when we won titles consistently.

Why aim low?

LuckyLloyd

murpho999 wrote: »

I won't be happy till we get back to 1970 & 80's level when we won titles consistently.

Why aim low?

Because I'm actually somewhat realistic about where we should be (despite protestations to the contrary). :pac:

OwaynOTT

brevity wrote: »

...days to go!

Pathetically ripping off the annoying 3 advert that's on before matches. Nair a bit of originality round here.
Can't wait to see which goalie is number one though! I hope it's Sander Westerveld.

RayCon

asteroids over berlin wrote: »

Dan Sturridge, will come good, we have sent him off for special specialist surgery and rehab, hopefully that will nail the head on his injury woes.

Sturridge, tekers, Coutinho, Firminho (or however you spell it) = big time danger for the opposition. Milner in midfield, lallana. great potential. Sell Henderson and Lucas and buy a couple of defenders and we would be in even better shape than the great shape we are in now. It's between Liverpool and Chelsea for me with Arsenal in the shadows waiting to pounce on Chelsea but unable to do so on the Pool. Brasso at the ready boys. Bring it on!!

Wow .... the optimism :eek:

Mr.H

Ok white flag we all like Danny:o I think I am all tense with the impending season looming over us

RayCon

Hopes for the new season :

1. Better, consistent performances leading to better results leading to silverware.
2. Rodgers talking less.


I fear # 2 is impossible if # 1 materializes.

brevity

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Pathetically ripping off the annoying 3 advert that's on before matches. Nair a bit of originality round here.
Can't wait to see which goalie is number one though! I hope it's Sander Westerveld.

:P

Number 9 was the hardest number, I really wanted to put Aspas up but Rush won me over.

D'Agger

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Because I'm actually somewhat realistic about where we should be (despite protestations to the contrary). :pac:

Aim for the ceiling etc. etc. :pac:

punk_one82

RayCon wrote: »

Hopes for the new season :

1. Better, consistent performances leading to better results leading to silverware.
2. Rodgers talking less.


I fear # 2 is impossible if # 1 materializes.

I really fail to see any logic in this. If you don't like hearing our manager speaking then I'm not sure why you watch/listen to his press conferences.

If it's quotes about the team he manages then I'm sorry to break it to you, but a massive part of a managers job is to spout nonsense to the press.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Mr.H wrote: »

Ok white flag we all like Danny:o I think I am all tense with the impending season looming over us

It's like a teenage disco in here, just as the slow set is starting;)

murpho999

RayCon wrote: »

Hopes for the new season :

1. Better, consistent performances leading to better results leading to silverware.
2. Rodgers talking less.


I fear # 2 is impossible if # 1 materializes.

I only Rodgers talk at post game interviews and pre and post game conferences.

During all occasions it's his job to talk. So what do people expect?

Pepp1989

RayCon wrote: »

Hopes for the new season :

1. Better, consistent performances leading to better results leading to silverware.
2. Rodgers talking less.


I fear # 2 is impossible if # 1 materializes.

I fear no one will give a sh*t about # 2 if #1 materialises.

Mr.H

Pepp1989 wrote: »

I fear no one will give a sh*t about # 2 if #1 materialises.

Noone minded what he had to say 2 years ago

Buford T. Justice XIX

Sturridge looking like returning to action for the United game:)

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2015/08/daniel-sturridge-to-return-to-training-in-the-next-fortnight/

corwill

RayCon wrote: »

Hopes for the new season :

1. Better, consistent performances leading to better results leading to silverware.
2. Rodgers talking less.


I fear # 2 is impossible if # 1 materializes.

If 1 happens, 2 is irrelevant.

I'm not sure 2 would happen if you stitched his mouth to Mario's hoop Human-Centipede-style, he'd break out the sign language or a Stephen Hawkins voiced box.

Turtyturd

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Sturridge looking like returning to action for the United game:)

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2015/08/daniel-sturridge-to-return-to-training-in-the-next-fortnight/

Will wait for a comment from God before getting my hopes up.

Grayditch

I haven't been a fan of our current and previous two managers press conference styles, but it's not something I think about. He can sit there dribbling or playing the kazoo for all I care. On pitch results.

5starpool

Turtyturd wrote: »

Will wait for a comment from God before getting my hopes up.

Being available for selection sadly doesn't mean that he will be fit and match sharp. Even if this has fixed him and he doesn't break down again with yet another injury, it'll take at least a month for him to be match sharp again. I'm not sure how much of last season's lack of sharpness when he did play was down to still having a niggly injury or just down to being not match fit. Hopefully the former.

MD1990

I liked Kenny's attitude towards the media. He treated them with the contempt alot of them deserve for asking the most obvious & stupid questions.

asteroids over berlin

A fit Sturridge is arguably the best out and out striker in the premiership, if he stays injury free this season, i expect the farcically over indulgent Spanish boys in white to be bidding for him next season, then of course there is the all cash but little on field flash MCFC to come lurking!

willowthewisp

MD1990 wrote: »

I liked Kenny's attitude towards the media. He treated them with the contempt alot of them deserve for asking the most obvious & stupid questions.

I liked that too, but I think it contributed to his exit.

Knex*

Bit of a laugh this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzogfrv-WUw

Cartman78

The interaction with the media is pretty much irrelevant if the team is playing well.

Things like that are only brought into focus if things are going arseways on the pitch

Buford T. Justice XIX

Turtyturd wrote: »

Will wait for a comment from God before getting my hopes up.

Nothing from Fowler yet, though....