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Sanctity of Life (Abortion Megathread)

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    #842
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 82,330 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Theres no part of it that is wholesale. Throwing a bunch of people into a pit and then shooting them would be wholesale (Relax everyone, the thread was already Godwinned earlier).


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    #843
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,765 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    
    Black Menorca wrote: »
    The wrong doing is the wholsale massacre of unborn babies. But for some, thats cushty.

    but the defunding isn't because PP provide abortion services. It was because of the rumours of PP selling foetal tissue. Wrongdoing wasn’t proven, but you’re happy to ignore that because you oppose abortion.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #844
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    Delirium wrote: »
    

    but the defunding isn't because PP provide abortion services. It was because of the rumours of PP selling foetal tissue. Wrongdoing wasn’t proven, but you’re happy to ignore that because you oppose abortion.

    Spot on.

    The killing of unborn babies is enough reason for me to celebrate the close down, hopefully, of this organisation.


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    #845
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 82,330 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    Spot on.

    The killing of unborn babies is enough reason for me to celebrate the close down, hopefully, of this organisation.

    It just doesn't add much of anything to the conversation to pom pom that imo.


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    #846
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,765 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    
    Black Menorca wrote: »
    Spot on.

    The killing of unborn babies is enough reason for me to celebrate the close down, hopefully, of this organisation.



    would you also condone imprisonment without trial for any doctors that have performed abortions?

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #847
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,765 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    sums up my bemusement with the defunding
    https://twitter.com/RickHorowitz/status/630008604448436225/photo/1

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #848
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,516 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    Yes, why should any human be executed for the violent crimes of her father?

    You would actually FORCE a 14 year old child to give birth to her rapists child? And you claim we are the monsters.


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    #849
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    Overheal wrote: »
    It just doesn't add much of anything to the conversation to pom pom that imo.

    Fair enough, I rejoice in PP's troubles.


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    #850
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    Delirium wrote: »
    



    would you also condone imprisonment without trial for any doctors that have performed abortions?

    Any doctor that intentionally takes a life, revokes the right to be called a doctor in my view.

    But I would settle for a trial first, then if found guilty, lock him up.


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    #851
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    You would actually FORCE a 14 year old child to give birth to her rapists child? And you claim we are the monsters.

    You're the one trying to defend a cabal that killed over 300K babies in the womb last year.

    The crime is the rape. A cruel and violent assault.

    Bringing more, monstrous, violence to the table is unconscionable in my view. The Irish Statute book agrees with me by the way.

    The intentional taking of unborn life is a serious crime in Irish law.


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    #852
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,516 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    You're the one trying to defend a cabal that killed over 300K babies in the womb last year.

    The crime is the rape. A cruel and violent assault.

    Bringing more, monstrous, violence to the table is unconscionable in my view. The Irish Statute book agrees with me by the way.

    The intentional taking of unborn life is a serious crime in Irish law.

    So under no circumstances is abortion valid in your world?


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    #853
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,765 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    Any doctor that intentionally takes a life, revokes the right to be called a doctor in my view.

    But I would settle for a trial first, then if found guilty, lock him up.

    and is only abortion that you would lock them up for? If they turn off a life-support machine on a brain dead patient, should they also be locked up? If not, why?

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #854
    Black Menorca
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    So under no circumstances is abortion valid in your world?

    Have you been paying even scant attention to my posts in abortion related threads?

    If so you will know already that I fully accept the justification of terminating pregnancies where the intention is to save the mother's life from a direct, physical threat. Even if sometimes, that results in the tragic death of the unborn baby.


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    #855
    Black Menorca
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    Delirium wrote: »
    and is only abortion that you would lock them up for? If they turn off a life-support machine on a brain dead patient, should they also be locked up? If not, why?

    I'm glad you brought up life support machines. I have huge opposition to them being turned off. But, unlike the intentional taking of unborn life, the law seems to be on the side of such practices.


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    #856
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,765 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    I'm glad you brought up life support machines. I have huge opposition to them being turned off. But, unlike the intentional taking of unborn life, the law seems to be on the side of such practices.

    Well at least you're consistent on both ends of the spectrum.

    so do you view a human being as essentially a functioning body/foetus etc., even if there is no brain functionality?

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    #857
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,516 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    Have you been paying even scant attention to my posts in abortion related threads?

    If so you will know already that I fully accept the justification of terminating pregnancies where the intention is to save the mother's life from a direct, physical threat. Even if sometimes, that results in the tragic death of the unborn baby.

    But you would force a 14 year old child to carry her rapists baby and make her deliver it, that's some seriously messed up morals.


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    #858
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    Delirium wrote: »
    Well at least you're consistent on both ends of the spectrum.

    so do you view a human being as essentially a functioning body/foetus etc., even if there is no brain functionality?

    Where there's life, there's humanity.

    I would never leave instructions to 'pull the plug'.


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    #859
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,765 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    Where there's life, there's humanity.

    I would never leave instructions to 'pull the plug'.

    How can humanity exist without a functioning brain?

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #860
    Black Menorca
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    But you would force a 14 year old child to carry her rapists baby and make her deliver it, that's some seriously messed up morals.

    Says the person who has no seeming discomfort with PP facilitating the killing 300K+ babies in the womb in 2014.

    Go figure.


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    #861
    robdonn
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    Delirium wrote: »
    How can humanity exist without a functioning brain?

    Must ... resist ... breaking ... forum ... charter .... :P


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    #862
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    Delirium wrote: »
    How can humanity exist without a functioning brain?



    I'll leave such decisions to Our Lord.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/9223408/Miracle-recovery-of-teen-declared-brain-dead-by-four-doctors.html


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    #863
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,516 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    Says the person who has no seeming discomfort with PP facilitating the killing 300K+ babies in the womb in 2014.

    Go figure.

    A 6 week old foetus is not a baby.


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    #864
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,765 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    I'll leave such decisions to Our Lord.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/9223408/Miracle-recovery-of-teen-declared-brain-dead-by-four-doctors.html

    That's a story about a doctor discovering that the brain still had some level of functionality.

    How can humanity exist without a functioning brain?

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #865
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    Delirium wrote: »
    That's a story about a doctor discovering that the brain still had some level of functionality.

    How can humanity exist without a functioning brain?

    Such deep and philosophical questions are beyond my humble understanding. :)

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/brain-dead-woman-recovers-after-husband-refuses-to-withdraw-life-support


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    #866
    PopePalpatine
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    Black Menorca wrote: »
    Such deep and philosophical questions are beyond my humble understanding. :)

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/brain-dead-woman-recovers-after-husband-refuses-to-withdraw-life-support

    And they'll remain so if you keep getting your news from the likes of LifeSiteNews.


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    #867
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    And they'll remain so if you keep getting your news from the likes of LifeSiteNews.

    As opposed to the self censored Irish Liberal media?


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    #868
    Two Sheds
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    A 6 week old foetus is not a baby.
    The regulatory body for doctors says she is. Do you think you know better than the medical profession?
    it may be necessary to intervene to terminate the pregnancy to protect the life of the mother, while making every effort to preserve the life of the baby


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    #869
    Two Sheds
    Registered Users Posts: 316 ✭✭Two Sheds


    Planned Parenthood is getting desperate -
    PLANNED PARENTHOOD HIT WITH DEFAMATION CHARGE
    It demands proof of others but makes grave allegations without a shred of its own.


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    #870
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    Two Sheds wrote: »
    Planned Parenthood is getting desperate -
    PLANNED PARENTHOOD HIT WITH DEFAMATION CHARGE
    It demands proof of others but makes grave allegations without a shred of its own.

    Desperation stakes.

    Sweet. :D


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    #871
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,765 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Two Sheds wrote: »
    Planned Parenthood is getting desperate -
    PLANNED PARENTHOOD HIT WITH DEFAMATION CHARGE
    It demands proof of others but makes grave allegations without a shred of its own.

    Group releases videos making, as yet unproven, allegations about ilegal activities by Planned Parenthood.

    Do PP issue legal writs to censor the allegations? No, they welcome investigations to clear their name.

    PP also make (also possibly false) statements about those who released videos. Group behind video issue legal writ to attempt to censor PP from repeating the statements.

    That's some mighty fine irony :pac:

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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