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Sanctity of Life (Abortion Megathread)

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    #1112
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,765 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Two Sheds wrote: »
    Your choice - poverty or death?

    .....Hmmm..

    Too slow! It's been decided for you.

    Any chance of elevating the discussion above facile soundbites?

    The questions posed by robdonn could be an interesting discussion if some pro-life posters were wiling to actually respond to them.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #1113
    Two Sheds
    Registered Users Posts: 316 ✭✭Two Sheds


    Another video released -


    a former StemExpress procurement technician, discusses the industrial process of abortions and the lack of care shown to the patients. More problematic for Planned Parenthood, O’Donnell explains that she has witnessed clinics not getting consent before harvesting blood and organs


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    #1114
    Penny Tration
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    So, about those American unborn babies that are fodder for the American abortion industry.

    Its quite disgusting that anyone would use poverty to justify taking the life of a beautiful baby girl or boy in the womb.

    When did society get so cold hearted?

    Can we 'take the life' of the ugly ones? They're not all beautiful, like.


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    #1115
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Jenny Thalia wrote: »
    Can we 'take the life' of the ugly ones? They're not all beautiful, like.

    At least on this basis that means foetuses with fatal abnormalities can be aborted.


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    #1116
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    robdonn wrote: »
    Your incredulity notwithstanding, I don't know what child that you're talking about. We're talking about women in poverty, women who are in no financial position to raise a child. Without money to give adequate care you are consigning a child to poverty and potentially every repercussion that goes with it.

    You're actually defending the killing of babies in the womb due to the socio-economic situation they would be born into?

    Its simply anathema to me.

    Hence me incredulity.


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    #1117
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    Two Sheds wrote: »
    Another video released -


    Fantastic!

    With each video released, the end of PP and their evil abortion trade is hastened.


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    #1118
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,516 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    You're actually defending the killing of babies in the womb due to the socio-economic situation they would be born into?

    Its simply anathema to me.

    Hence me incredulity.

    In a country riddled with Famine, Would it be better to abort an unwanted foetus or let it be born into a life of starvation and misery?


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    #1119
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,516 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    Fantastic!

    With each video released, the end of PP and their evil abortion trade is hastened.

    How many centers have been closed down? How many staff laid off? How many abortions cancelled?


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    #1120
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    In a country riddled with Famine, Would it be better to abort an unwanted foetus or let it be born into a life of starvation and misery?

    Here we go again with s list of what ifs bearing no relevance to the subject in question. Poor American kids face the abortion clinic but poor kids in Ireland get a pass.

    The answer to your question is clearly to give birth and seek help from famine relief agencies.

    This is the last 'what if' question I'll be answering today. :)


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    #1121
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    How many centers have been closed down? How many staff laid off? How many abortions cancelled?

    I've no clue.


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    #1122
    Overheal
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    #1123
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,516 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    Here we go again with s list of what ifs bearing no relevance to the subject in question. Poor American kids face the abortion clinic but poor kids in Ireland get a pass.

    The answer to your question is clearly to give birth and seek help from famine relief agencies.

    This is the last 'what if' question I'll be answering today. :)

    So a life of starvation and misery.


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    #1124
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,516 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    I've no clue.

    So no hastening of the end of PP at all then?


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    #1125
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    So a life of starvation and misery.

    A life of learning how to fend for oneself with the help of agencies on the ground.


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    #1126
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,516 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    A life of learning how to fend for oneself with the help of agencies on the ground.

    You think aid agencies have large stores of food and water and medicine in every town and village?


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    #1127
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    So no hastening of the end of PP at all then?

    Au contraire. :)


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    #1128
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,516 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    Au contraire. :)

    Ok

    Let's see the evidence you have of this.


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    #1129
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    You think aid agencies have large stores of food and water and medicine in every town and village?

    Where did you get such a negative view of life?
    Advocating for killing babies in the womb and using fantastical scenarios in your desperation to in some way justify it.


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    #1130
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Ok

    Let's see the evidence you have of this.

    States starting to defund their immoral trade in killing unborn babies. :) Thank God.


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    #1131
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,516 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    Where did you get such a negative view of life?
    Advocating for killing babies in the womb and using fantastical scenarios in your desperation to in some way justify it.

    From the person who would force a 14 year old to carry her rapists child and give birth and force children to be born into abject poverty, misery and starvation.


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    #1132
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,516 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    States starting to defund their immoral trade in killing unborn babies. :) Thank God.

    So?

    Where is the EVIDENCE that this is hastening the END off PP as you have claimed?


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    #1133
    Penny Tration
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    Where did you get such a negative view of life?
    Advocating for killing babies in the womb and using fantastical scenarios in your desperation to in some way justify it.

    But you support killing babies in the womb in some specific circumstances.


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    #1134
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 82,330 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    Where did you get such a negative view of life?

    Advocating for killing babies in the womb and using fantastical scenarios in your desperation to in some way justify it.

    Moral High Ground fallacy.


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    #1135
    The Randy Riverbeast
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    I'm sure they'll be fine, just a little less profit. Company cars will have to be demoted to a Lexus.


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    #1136
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    From the person who would force a 14 year old to carry her rapists child and give birth and force children to be born into abject poverty, misery and starvation.

    No answer then. OK.


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    #1137
    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 82,330 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    No answer then. OK.

    Because you're so good at answering questions? lol


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    #1138
    Mya Nice Tuner
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Mya Nice Tuner


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    No answer then. OK.

    Is it a negative view to suggest that there are perils and issues of being born in abject poverty?

    Is it fantastical to pretend that there are not?


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    #1139
    MrPudding
    Registered Users Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    In a country riddled with Famine, Would it be better to abort an unwanted foetus or let it be born into a life of starvation and misery?

    Suffering and misery give glory to God, don't you know.

    And remember, it is life for the sake of life*, quality of life is irrelevant.

    MrP







    *Plus controlling those filthy sluts, obviously.


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    #1140
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,516 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    MrPudding wrote: »
    Suffering and misery give glory to God, don't you know.

    And remember, it is life for the sake of life*, quality of life is irrelevant.

    MrP







    *Plus controlling those filthy sluts, obviously.

    A loving caring god that would let millions starve to death rather than just give them a little rain .


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    #1141
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    Overheal wrote: »
    Because you're so good at answering questions? lol

    The "but, but, but, what if" questions get tiring very quickly as all they are is an attempt to deflect from the core subject.


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