Three Ireland removes ad after mob misinterpret it

NachoBusiness

osarusan wrote: »

Three said it is part of a series of 'stuff you miss when your data runs out' - is this the first one of the series to be seen or have there been others?

Yes, there was..

Sorry Vodafone customers, your team scored in extra time after you’d used all your data’.

Custardpi

Lindsey Faint Maroon wrote: »

Well misgendering someone by saying 'he is a she' or 'she is a he' sounds like both trying to oppress that person's identity and offend them if you're aware they're transgender and go by particular pronouns. Just because it might not be intentional, doesn't mean it's not problematic.

So Three are aware of the gender identification of every single person who walks/drives/cycles past each of their billboards & are seeking to "oppress" them on that basis? Sounds positively Orwellian. Not sure where the financial gain is though

c_man

Jesus Christ. I blame people taking their corporate mandated inclusion and diversity training/year goal, a bit too seriously. It's just supposed to be a laugh lads.

pl4ichjgy17zwd

Custardpi wrote: »

So Three are aware of the gender identification of every single person who walks/drives/cycles past each of their billboards & are seeking to "oppress" them on that basis? Sounds positively Orwellian. Not sure where the financial gain is though

I'm just making a comment on the language used in reference to transgender people. If the ad isn't meant to refer to a transgender person (catfishing or something) then they're free to explain what was meant. Maybe they have, I'm not sure if they've gone into specifics.

osarusan

NachoBusiness wrote: »

Yes, there was..

Yeah, I saw that one in the article,...but what I'm wondering is if any of the others are actually up on billboards yet, or if this was the first one.

Clandestine

Graham Linehan (as much as I dislike him) has given his opinion:
https://twitter.com/Glinner/status/621374695909261314
https://twitter.com/Glinner/status/621375464301445120

For Forks Sake

osarusan wrote: »

Three said it is part of a series of 'stuff you miss when your data runs out' - is this the first one of the series to be seen or have there been others?

There's at least two others that I'm aware of, one where you miss footage of Irelands greatest ever drop-goal, and a second where you miss footage of an amazing festival encore due to running out of data allowance. I'm sure someone is preparing to be offended somehow by those also.

Clandestine

Lindsey Faint Maroon wrote: »

Just because it might not be intentional, doesn't mean it's not problematic.

BOOM there it is. Took 7 pages

Custardpi

Clandestine wrote: »

Graham Linehan (as much as I dislike him) has given his opinion:

How could you dislike the guy who gave us Father Ted & The IT Crowd?

pl4ichjgy17zwd

Clandestine wrote: »

BOOM there it is. Took 7 pages

you have a problem with the word 'problematic'?

Dogowner55

Custardpi wrote: »

How could you dislike the guy who gave us Father Ted & The IT Crowd?

He is usually on of the side of the perpetually offended, I am kinda surprised he didn't come down on the otherside of this.

Will say his tranny episode of the it crowd is brilliant

efb

So what movie is it? Boys don't Cry???

The King of Moo

What a terrible ad; it's not clear at all that it's a reference to The Crying Game, they got the genders mixed up, and the twist occurs early in the film.

My initial thought was that it was a "laddish" joke about some someone unknowingly "scoring with" a transgender person, so it's very easy to see that it could be seen as using transgender people as the object of a cheap stupid joke. I think it's disingenuous to say that's not apparent.

And you shouldn't have to read small print on a billboard to understand an ad.
Don Draper must be rolling in his televisual grave.

jackofalltrades

I think the ad's vague.

That said do people really think a large multinational company is going to bring out ad that has a go at transgender people?
It seems highly unlikely.
Maybe we should give Three the benefit of the doubt before castigating them.

zeffabelli

Well I'll be damned, what is this about? I neither understand the ad nor the offence to it.

And I am so sick to the teeth now of protected species and special interest groups expecting the world to mollycoddle them.

In what universe were we all born into unconditional approval?

Grow up.

Links234

jackofalltrades wrote: »

That said do people really think a large multinational company is going to bring out ad that has a go at transgender people?

Well, yes actually. Both Vodafone and Paddy Power have run ads that had goes at transgender people just off the top of my head. Trans people are often just the butt of jokes, so it's quite an easy assumption to make if you're on the recieving end of that.

BunkMoreland

Transphobic, never heard that word. I'd be a bit of an ould transphope to be fair.

JONJO THE MISER

I saw one of the adds on t.v with your man falling on the ice.
Dont think that is right to broadcast over and over, surely your man could sue them.

lazybones32

Links234 wrote: »

I've neither made it an issue, nor taken offense. All I asked was that folks try and see how the ad might come across.

But how in the World can I, a male, try to imagine what this advert may appear like in the eyes of a man or woman who thinks they were born in the wrong body?

Why don't you try see it through my eyes? I saw it; didn't understand it; carried on with my business and didn't take to Twitter/FB/Boards because of faux-outrage.

Wright

Clandestine wrote: »

The perpetually offended

So, Irish people? :V

TBH that ad does make light of transgender people and in the current climate 3 should have known better.

Ken.

Wright wrote: »

So, Irish people? :V

TBH that ad does make light of transgender people and in the current climate 3 should have known better.

They do know better. Look at everyone talking about them here and on other sites. Job done.

Fleawuss

Custardpi wrote: »

So it's not a great advert. So, what? Plenty of those about which don't attract that kind of outrage. Once again, why would a company decide to randomly insult a minority group as a "selling point"? It makes no sense if you stop & think about it for a moment. Sadly that appears to be too much of an effort for some people.

The point is that you would expect a company trying to promote itself and paying to do that, to do it in an effective way that understands its audience. Clearly there is a failure. I can see how trans people would be offended by it. It's glib, cliched and badly out of step with Irish society. Things are not as simple as the powers that be in 1992 had us all believe.

SMJSF

I didn't read the comments on here before clicking on the link..... But I thought it was about catfish-ing!!!

Ken.

BunkMoreland wrote: »

Transphobic, never heard that word. I'd be a bit of an ould transphope to be fair.

I prefer megatron to Optimus Prime. Am I transphobic?

wp_rathead

I thought it was a reference to the show Catfish myself - when they track the person down at the end of the show they are often someone older or a completely different gender in some cases. The show is on Netflix so alot of people would watch it on their phone..

The add makes no sense if it is having a go at Trans people..

4zn76tysfajdxp

I think it's misogynistic, actually. Like there's anything wrong with a man actually turning out to be a woman. :mad: I, for one, am outraged.

Fleawuss

lazybones32 wrote: »

But how in the World can I, a male, try to imagine what this advert may appear like in the eyes of a man or woman who thinks they were born in the wrong body?

Why don't you try see it through my eyes? I saw it; didn't understand it; carried on with my business and didn't take to Twitter/FB/Boards because of faux-outrage.

You have answered yourself. If you say you couldn't possibly understand how a trans person would react that's fine. If you then claimed to be outraged that would be faux outrage. It's not faux outrage for a trans person.

Dogowner55

Fleawuss wrote: »

You have answered yourself. If you say you couldn't possibly understand how a trans person would react that's fine. If you then claimed to be outraged that would be faux outrage. It's not faux outrage for a trans person.

But just like you can't understand a schizophrenic, you shouldn't have to pussyfoot around trying not upset them when they are not all mentally there, if you are a man that thinks he a woman that person will never full right in the head.


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lazybones32

Thomas Fancy Poker wrote: »

I think it's misogynistic, actually. Like there's anything wrong with a man actually turning out to be a woman. :mad: I, for one, am outraged.

I think you're a misandrist for thinking it's misogynistic.

Fleawuss wrote: »

You have answered yourself. If you say you couldn't possibly understand how a trans person would react that's fine. If you then claimed to be outraged that would be faux outrage. It's not faux outrage for a trans person.

And you have answered me answering me. I love these philosophical back-and-forth's...it makes boards special.

P_1

Look if you've had years of being made a joke of just because of who you are you're not going to be exploring the subtleties of an ad that is appearing to be more of the same too deeply.