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Coombe or Rotunda Semi-Private

  • 15-07-2015 10:19pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 617 ✭✭✭


    Hi all,

    Just wondering which people think is the best of these hospitals for maternity care? Thinking of going semi-private and have heard good things about both hospitals.

    Does either provide similar services and care? Anything stick out?

    Also has anyone gone for the consultant-led semi-private care in the Rotunda, is Wednesday evening the only option? I can't do Wednesday evenings due to college classes.

    Any help/advise would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Dapos


    Also, what are your opinions on semi-private vs private?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭theLuggage


    Like you have heard good things about both.

    I've been to the Coombe and am attending again. Friends and family have been in the Rotunda and they were happy overall as well.

    I went private in the Coombe and was very happy with my consultant, the care, midwives etc. I'm not sure how semi-private works exactly but private you have the same consultant each visit which was a big plus for me. Private room was available after the birth as well which I liked too (though it does depend on whether one is available, they had a lot free in the Coombe the last time I was in. Have heard stories about semi-private being given private rooms because they were empty so you could be lucky that way too). I also found the midwives a bit more attentive when my consultant was around - for instance I was being told I wouldn't be induced until evening (having been waiting since 7 in the morning), my consultant appeared around 12 and said you'll be up in an hour. Don't think that would have happened if I hadn't a particular dr looking after me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    As an alternative check out the domino scheme.

    Just to note that should you think the consultant will be there for the birth he probably won't be...holidays..golf etc
    We considered going SP in the rotunda but went public instead. Both were difficult pregnancies but the care was faultless.

    We Spent more time in emergency than the clinics. The secret with the clinics was to get an early appointment and be there an hour before check in. Meant you got an early number when the desk opened and were out quickly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    I've been to the Coombe both public and semi private and I'm going back again semi private. It was a nice experience both times- the staff are really nice.

    Do check out what areas the domino schemes in each hospital serve and how this relates to where you live. Also I think the Coombe has parking where as I'm not too sure about rotunda.

    As far as I know, the Coombe have changed their appointment times. Instead of giving everyone for example 8.30am appointments, they have more specific times now. Plus you can't check in 15 minutes before or half hour after. The idea is there's not a big crowd left waiting.

    When I was semi private I had dr Fitzpatrick, I saw him on the first and last visit and other consultants in his team in the intervening visits. That was fine, except booking in for a section was frustrating as they all said surgery day was a different day and had minor time differences about when it would be done , but we got there in the end!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭angeldelight


    I had a great experience in the Coombe, I went private and loved my consultant. It is expensive though! Even though I had no real complications during the pregnancy I'll still go private with her next time


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  • Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭spring21


    Roughly how much will cost for semiprivate in the coombe ? This is my first pregnancy at 41 after a very long road ! I would love to go private but we just can't afford it .myself I am thinking to go public and to use that money for the baby but then I am thinking because of my age I may need extra care . I really dont know the difference between private -semiprivate - public . I would appreciate some advice , please😊


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 563 ✭✭✭wdmfapq4zs83hv


    spring21 wrote: »
    Roughly how much will cost for semiprivate in the coombe ? This is my first pregnancy at 41 after a very long road ! I would love to go private but we just can't afford it .myself I am thinking to go public and to use that money for the baby but then I am thinking because of my age I may need extra care . I really dont know the difference between private -semiprivate - public . I would appreciate some advice , please😊

    Semi private in the Coombe is 750 at the moment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Going SP doesn't guarantee you a SP room. It depends on availability.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    Going SP doesn't guarantee you a SP room. It depends on availability.

    On the other side of the coin, you can end up in a private room as a semi private patient. As long as you have health insurance and it allows for a private room in public hospital. Check what your health insurance will pay for semi private care, most will pay for everything but consultant fees, as another poster said they are 750 semi private at the moment. Scans are additional on top of this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭spring21


    On the other side of the coin, you can end up in a private room as a semi private patient. As long as you have health insurance and it allows for a private room in public hospital. Check what your health insurance will pay for semi private care, most will pay for everything but consultant fees, as another poster said they are 750 semi private at the moment. Scans are additional on top of this.

    Thank you , unfortunately I don't have anymore health insurance but I have a medical card . Would the medical card help me in any way ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    spring21 wrote: »
    Thank you , unfortunately I don't have anymore health insurance but I have a medical card . Would the medical card help me in any way ?

    I'm Cant be certain but I don't think so. You can ring the accounts department in the Coombe, the women there are lovely and will be straight up about the costs & differences. Tbh there's very little difference between semi private & public. I did both and they were the same, Except different waiting rooms ( granted the public one can be a little fuller) When I was public I was lucky to be in a room with four beds, and semi private I got a private room but to be honest it was very solitary.

    Regarding the quality of medical care received it will be exactly the same! Same consultants, same midwifes, same labour ward.

    The last time I was in I got the impression from some of the private patients that they have more of a 1:1 relationship with their consultant...they're less of a number! I think the consultant fees for private even with health insurance is 3,500/4,000, so that's probably why!


  • Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭spring21


    I'm Cant be certain but I don't think so. You can ring the accounts department in the Coombe, the women there are lovely and will be straight up about the costs & differences. Tbh there's very little difference between semi private & public. I did both and they were the same, Except different waiting rooms ( granted the public one can be a little fuller) When I was public I was lucky to be in a room with four beds, and semi private I got a private room but to be honest it was very solitary.

    Regarding the quality of medical care received it will be exactly the same! Same consultants, same midwifes, same labour ward.

    The last time I was in I got the impression from some of the private patients that they have more of a 1:1 relationship with their consultant...they're less of a number! I think the consultant fees for private even with health insurance is 3,500/4,000, so that's probably why!
    Thanks a mill 😊 i will give them a ring ! I can't afford to go private but I'm thinking of going semiprivate just because of my age ( maybe I shouldn't think this way ) yet I don't know if this will make a difference as you said you received exactly the same care and this is the most important thing ! I'm thinking to go for a private scan at around 9 weeks can you recomend any in Dublin or Kerry ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,729 ✭✭✭Millem


    spring21 wrote: »
    Thanks a mill 😊 i will give them a ring ! I can't afford to go private but I'm thinking of going semiprivate just because of my age ( maybe I shouldn't think this way ) yet I don't know if this will make a difference as you said you received exactly the same care and this is the most important thing ! I'm thinking to go for a private scan at around 9 weeks can you recomend any in Dublin or Kerry ?

    Spring21 can go go semi private for consultant and not be billed for accommodation??? This is what I would be terrified of :eek:
    The €750 is because health insurance pay the rest
    http://www.coombe.ie/content/files/V1_Hospital_Charges_2015.pdf


  • Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭spring21


    Millem wrote: »
    Spring21 can go go semi private for consultant and not be billed for accommodation??? This is what I would be terrified of :eek:
    The €750 is because health insurance pay the rest
    http://www.coombe.ie/content/files/V1_Hospital_Charges_2015.pdf
    Oh , thanks a mill for the link ! After all I think my only option is to go public , you are right €750 is because of insurance adding up all the other fees goes over 3 grant , maybe more !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    If you don't have health insurance don't even consider going semi private or private. You could end up paying a lot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭spring21


    lazygal wrote: »
    If you don't have health insurance don't even consider going semi private or private. You could end up paying a lot.

    Thank you , lazygal. I'm after reading the 76 pages of the August due forum and I feel better now . Next step now is to ring the hospital .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    We went public on 2 in the rotunda. My wife even got upgraded to a semi private room after the birth of our first. We had a nice midwife:)

    The only difference is the clinic and the possibility of a room. Everything else is the same as public and chances are you'll be out in 24 hours or less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭bovril


    lazygal wrote:
    If you don't have health insurance don't even consider going semi private or private. You could end up paying a lot.

    You can still go semi private in the Coombe and pick a public bed option and you pay the 750 and scan fees. The scan fees are up to a maximum of 400e. As said above ring admissions, they are really friendly and explain everything. In the Coombe you get different forms for your consultant care and bed request. If you pick private care I think you have to go with private bed care.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭angeldelight


    The bed selection form in the Coombe specifically says if you are private or sp you cannot choose a public bed - it's in bold down the bottom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭bovril


    The bed selection form in the Coombe specifically says if you are private or sp you cannot choose a public bed - it's in bold down the bottom.

    I thought you could if you are semi private but I stand corrected if that's the case.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    bovril wrote: »
    You can still go semi private in the Coombe and pick a public bed option and you pay the 750 and scan fees. The scan fees are up to a maximum of 400e. As said above ring admissions, they are really friendly and explain everything. In the Coombe you get different forms for your consultant care and bed request. If you pick private care I think you have to go with private bed care.

    I'd be really surprised if the system works that way because hospitals want the revenue from insurance companies paying for accommodation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    spring21 wrote: »
    Thanks a mill 😊 i will give them a ring ! I can't afford to go private but I'm thinking of going semiprivate just because of my age ( maybe I shouldn't think this way ) yet I don't know if this will make a difference as you said you received exactly the same care and this is the most important thing ! I'm thinking to go for a private scan at around 9 weeks can you recomend any in Dublin or Kerry ?

    You can also do combined care, it's what a lot of people opt for. If you do this you will alternate between your gp and your consultant. It can be useful instead of having to travel & it's good if you have a good relationship with your gp. The midwifes scheme are also another possibility, where you're under a consultant but see the midwifes for the majority of your visits.

    I think without the health insurance semi private would cost a few grand. On my first pregnancy I didn't know this, and tang Holles street querying prices without health insurance. The women on the phone was lovely, even though I nearly made her choke. She told me in no uncertain terms not to pay in full for semi private, that it was the exact same! I kind of thought it might be better in some way but no!

    Sure most of the consultants in the Coombe do both public & private clinics on different days so it's not like the ones you're not paying for are any less experienced , because they're all the same !

    For private scans I've gone to places in blackrock and rathgar in South Dublin. I've heard there's a place in bray too that I've never been to so I can't personally recommend, but the ones I've been to are good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Could anyone help please. I'm expecting my first baby. I have health insurance but won't be covered as you need to be with them 52 weeks before you are covered for maternity. I was thinking of going semi private and just paying ourselves but I rang the account department in the Coombe today and the lady told me it would cost approx 8000 euro to go semi private and said there's little difference between semi private and public. Is this true??? Could anyone help please???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Excited!! wrote: »
    Could anyone help please. I'm expecting my first baby. I have health insurance but won't be covered as you need to be with them 52 weeks before you are covered for maternity. I was thinking of going semi private and just paying ourselves but I rang the account department in the Coombe today and the lady told me it would cost approx 8000 euro to go semi private and said there's little difference between semi private and public. Is this true??? Could anyone help please???
    You will get the same treatment. The difference is the room which may not even be available when needed.
    You could very well end up in a public ward.


  • Posts: 8,385 [Deleted User]


    For what you pay semi-private is not worth it. You have ni guarantee of any of the benefits and will be charged at SP rate even if you don't get to avail of SP services


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭goz83


    My wife has had 5 births in the rotunda in the last 12 years, most recently at the end of October. Always went the public route because our maternity service is actually really good over here. There is no need for private, or semi private and it restricts you to attending the hospital on certain days. If you go the public route, you can be seen by the midwives (the ones who actually deliver babies most days/nights of the week.

    My sis in law is a med student. She wanted to go private until the consultant actually recommended against it, stating what I said above. Consultants can be a good idea for higher risk pregnancies, but for for a normal pregnancy (young, healthy etc) it is a waste of your time and money.

    Good luck either way.


  • Posts: 8,385 [Deleted User]


    On appointment days you can also request to be seen by the consultant. It'll take longer but that's who you get to see


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭irishgirl19


    Yeah its definitely not worth 8000. You will have the same level of care going public. Waiting times will be a bit longer. But as a public patient in in the coombe I was never longer than an hour for an appointment ( after the initial first appointment)
    Theres also an option to do your appointments with a midwife in your area. I attended the clinic in Lucan
    Never any waiting times there!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    The rotunda also have the domino scheme and local midwife care.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    A lot of people rally off 'you mightn't even get your semi private room' but in my experience I've never seen that happen. On third pregnancy now, went public on first and semi p on next two. I was in a semi private room every time, if anything there's always a good few public patients in semi private rooms.

    I'd never pay the full whack without insurance. Definitely not worth it. Mine cost 750 and my health insurance pays back half.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭dbagman


    Sorry to bump this. Currently having this argument with my GF. First baby and her mum has told her to go semi private. Adamant she is. We've no insurance cover. Is the general consensus it's no where near worth the money? And is the total cost of 8 grand a reality??? Going rotunda. Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,757 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    I don't think there's much difference in reality


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭PhoenixParker


    Can she do domino scheme in the rotunda? It's free and better then private or semi-p in my opinion. You've to live in the catchment and be low risk.

    If you qualify you have almost all your appointments in the local clinic with barely a wait and get released very quickly after birth (no need for a private\semi p room). Midwives come to your house daily for a week after you get home. I did it in September and it was great.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    On my first pregnancy I called up the Coombes accounts to query semi private without insurance and I was told in no uncertain terms by the lady who answered not to do it, that it's all pretty much the same.

    I had health insurance on my next two pregnancies, so I went semi private. One consultant was always 2-3 hours behind no matter what, the next consultant was a good time keeper but there was a couple of times we were all left waiting as he attended to emergencies as is the nature of the job. Then admittance to the hospital and the birth itself is exactly the same care/experience.

    So the room is the only difference , and in my experience if you have an extended stay prior to the birth they'll put public Patients in Semi private wards where they can.

    Would you be well paying 4,000 for 3 nights accommodation in a hospital!? As I had health insurance I had to pay 750, and got 400 of that back through health insurance claims. Then around 300 for scans. I didn't mind paying that amount as it was over time, but a huge 4,000 + fee. No way that it's worth it. If you have it spend it on a holiday, a car, the homeless, anything else!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,729 ✭✭✭Millem


    Does anyone know if you can swap your patient category during your pregnancy? Swap from public to semi or semi to private or public to private?
    Thanks


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭dbagman


    Millem wrote:
    Does anyone know if you can swap your patient category during your pregnancy? Swap from public to semi or semi to private or public to private? Thanks


    Actually would be very interested to hear the answer to this. The semi private appointment is made but I'm ringing tomorrow to see about changing it. But would be open to keeping it then going public. A compromise of sorts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,510 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Dapos wrote: »
    Hi all,

    Just wondering which people think is the best of these hospitals for maternity care? Thinking of going semi-private and have heard good things about both hospitals.

    Does either provide similar services and care? Anything stick out?

    Also has anyone gone for the consultant-led semi-private care in the Rotunda, is Wednesday evening the only option? I can't do Wednesday evenings due to college classes.

    Any help/advise would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks

    Go public. That's the care you will ultimately receive anyway.

    All you're doing by going private for maternity care is adding another few grand to some kid's inheritance.

    My wife has been twice through the rotunda public and the care she received each time was impeccable. And one delivery required emergency intervention from an on shift doctor. In the main public or private you'll be cared for by taxpayer funded mid wives.

    Private maternity is the greatest scam going.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,729 ✭✭✭Millem


    dbagman wrote: »
    Actually would be very interested to hear the answer to this. The semi private appointment is made but I'm ringing tomorrow to see about changing it. But would be open to keeping it then going public. A compromise of sorts.

    Me too! Are you going to coombe?
    I can't remember my appointments on my son but I don't think there are many from 12 to 20 weeks for second pregnancy? Have horrific memory though!
    Wouldn't mind going public and then after 20 weeks switching?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭dbagman


    Millem wrote:
    Me too! Are you going to coombe? I can't remember my appointments on my son but I don't think there are many from 12 to 20 weeks for second pregnancy? Have horrific memory though! Wouldn't mind going public and then after 20 weeks switching?


    No rotunda I think. Myself and herself have been at loggerheads over this so if I have to compromise I will. But no way going full semi private without insurance. I'd rather spend 5 grand (and gladly will. I'm not being tight here) on my child. And think it would be far better spent too. I really can't comprehend the need to spend this money on nothing or why anyone would feel the need to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,729 ✭✭✭Millem


    dbagman wrote: »
    No rotunda I think. Myself and herself have been at loggerheads over this so if I have to compromise I will. But no way going full semi private without insurance. I'd rather spend 5 grand (and gladly will. I'm not being tight here) on my child. And think it would be far better spent too. I really can't comprehend the need to spend this money on nothing or why anyone would feel the need to.

    Sorry just read your previous post! You dont have insurance....I think you are mad to even consider semi p! Go public from the word go or do domino!
    I would only go semi or private if you have health insurance.

    Rotunda is €1100 or €1800 semi p. You can go fully private there for €2200-€2500+ depending on consultant.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭dbagman


    Millem wrote:
    Sorry just read your previous post! You dont have insurance....I think you are mad to even consider semi p! Go public from the word go or do domino! I would only go semi or private if you have health insurance.


    Thing is I'm not considering it. She was advised to go semi private. I half agreed without fully understanding it. Looked it up aswell as getting advice from my own family and am having none of it now. No way. Semi private appointment made in meantime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,729 ✭✭✭Millem


    dbagman wrote: »
    Thing is I'm not considering it. She was advised to go semi private. I half agreed without fully understanding it. Looked it up aswell as getting advice from my own family and am having none of it now. No way. Semi private appointment made in meantime.

    I would cancel app as you will be liable for bloods and scan charges for 12 week appointment. No idea of cost but I would say maybe €100ish for scan and €125 for bloods but that is a rough idea so could be more!

    Rotunda apparently have a new queuing sustenance for public which is meant to be much quicker!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭mdlb


    Millem wrote: »
    Does anyone know if you can swap your patient category during your pregnancy? Swap from public to semi or semi to private or public to private?
    Thanks


    Just bumping this question as we are wondering the exact same thing, Initially went with public but would like to change to semi private in the Coombe.

    Anybody have any experience of doing this? any issues with changing after the first scan?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,729 ✭✭✭Millem


    mdlb wrote: »
    Millem wrote: »
    Does anyone know if you can swap your patient category during your pregnancy? Swap from public to semi or semi to private or public to private?
    Thanks


    Just bumping this question as we are wondering the exact same thing, Initially went with public but would like to change to semi private in the Coombe.

    Anybody have any experience of doing this? any issues with changing after the first scan?

    I switched from semi p to private. But that was at something like 6 weeks. Had no appointments when I switched.
    Delighted with the care so far have had 2 appointments to date.
    Everything is included in the private fee.
    In the coombe semi p is €750 plus scans....so if you can switch you will have saved yourself the cost of the dating the scan ;)
    Just ring and ask them!


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