Guinness Pro12 2015/2016 Season thread

aimee1

awec wrote: »

Why is it that Munster Connacht can get a neutral ref (Welsh) and we end up with him? How can this keep happing?

Nobody likes ulster what odds are leinster?

former total

awec wrote: »

Why is it that Munster Connacht can get a neutral ref (Welsh) and we end up with him? How can this keep happing?

Just the 26-10 win for Ulster with two yellow cards for Leinster the last time he reffed them.

b.gud

awec wrote: »

Why is it that Munster Connacht can get a neutral ref (Welsh) and we end up with him? How can this keep happing?

Because our game is an important top of the table clash

Seriously though neutral does not imply better

Journeyman_1

That's incredibly terrible refereeing. You don't butt in like that unless you are absolutely sure and those were amazingly bad decisions!

awec

former total wrote: »

Just the 26-10 win for Ulster with two yellow cards for Leinster the last time he reffed them.

Don't worry, I doubt he'll let us win again.

jacothelad

former total wrote: »

Just the 26-10 win for Ulster with two yellow cards for Leinster the last time he reffed them.

He got the shirt colours mixed up.....:D. He had to give the Cinnamon/Half caff/ Macchiato /Cappucinno maker machine back to Jamie.

jacothelad

Lacey has turned out, after promising beginnings to be a very poor ref. He got absolutely slated in the press for his RWC performance. For an ex-player he has no empathy at all for tyhe players or the game. He is like Wayne Barnes.

sydthebeat

jacothelad wrote: »

Lacey has turned out, after promising beginnings to be a very poor ref. He got absolutely slated in the press for his RWC performance. For an ex-player he has no empathy at all for tyhe players or the game. He is like Wayne Barnes.

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a ref that got almost universal praise for his RWC performances.....

im not saying i rate lacey highyl, i dont... but comparing him to probably the second best ref in the world at the moment doesnt do your argument any favours

vienne86

sydthebeat wrote: »

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a ref that got almost universal praise for his RWC performances.....

im not saying i rate lacey highyl, i dont... but comparing him to probably the second best ref in the world at the moment doesnt do your argument any favours

Yeah, I think Barnes is a decent ref, and was really very good in the RWC. I don't think much of Lacey at all.

awec

jacothelad wrote: »

Lacey has turned out, after promising beginnings to be a very poor ref. He got absolutely slated in the press for his RWC performance. For an ex-player he has no empathy at all for tyhe players or the game. He is like Wayne Barnes.

Perhaps questions need to be asked of the people who train referees.

thomond2006

awec wrote: »

Perhaps questions need to be asked of the people who train referees.

Jaco's favourite ref used to do just that for the Six Nations referees.

Zzippy

It's an indictment of the refereeing standards in the Pro12 that after Nigel Owens, the next best referee is a Romanian based in Italy...

penybont exile

b.gud wrote: »

Because our game is an important top of the table clash

Seriously though neutral does not imply better

Is this guy any relation to Nigel Whitehouse?

The Lost Sheep

penybont exile wrote: »

Is this guy any relation to Nigel Whitehouse?

son

penybont exile

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

son

Must run in the family ....

His old man wasn't any good either ..... If my memory serves me.

irishbucsfan

No idea why anyone would want to be a professional referee. Here's someone at the very beginning of his career and any time his name is mentioned people rush to attack him based on one or two bad performances, I really don't understand it. He seems a good guy and also seems to have plenty of potential of becoming a good ref, but people are already making up their minds.

wp_rathead

I actually like Ben Whitehouse, plus he has reffed Connacht twice this season already against Zebre and Dragons so the players can have no excuse of not being familar

vienne86

irishbucsfan wrote: »

No idea why anyone would want to be a professional referee. Here's someone at the very beginning of his career and any time his name is mentioned people rush to attack him based on one or two bad performances, I really don't understand it. He seems a good guy and also seems to have plenty of potential of becoming a good ref, but people are already making up their minds.

I don't know much about the guy - it's just that the clips someone posted earlier are pretty damning!

b.gud

Times, dates and broadcast details of round 13 -17 games announced

vienne86

b.gud wrote: »

Times, dates and broadcast details of round 13 -17 games announced

I wonder when they'll play the three matche posponed from 8/9 January.

sydneybound

vienne86 wrote: »

I wonder when they'll play the three matche posponed from 8/9 January.

The postponed European fixtures will be played then.

CatFromHue

vienne86 wrote: »

I wonder when they'll play the three matche posponed from 8/9 January.

There is a break in the Pro12 during the 6N and then there's also a free weekend for the QF/SF/F of the ERCC too.

matthew8

Glasgow losing 6-3 at home to Treviso.

Borders no.2

Glasgow get the win in the end with a late flourish. Hayward missed penalties either side of half time which would have given Treviso a real chance. Some decent results for Zebre and Treviso recently which the league badly needs. For Glasgow last week was a real setback which may have carried over to this game somewhat.

vienne86

sydneybound wrote: »

The postponed European fixtures will be played then.

Yes, which is why those Pro 12 fixtures have to be postponed!

Bridge93

Cardiff Blues are second bottom with 1 win in 7 games yet have a points difference of +4. That's mad

CatFromHue

Cardiff are such a funny team. They never really lose by much, about 7 or 8 points, but they lose alot even though they tend to score points a good bit too.

The reason they've still a + points difference is they scored 61 against Zebre in the first round.

Journeyman_1

CatFromHue wrote: »

Cardiff are such a funny team. They never really lose by much, about 7 or 8 points, but they lose alot even though they tend to score points a good bit too.

The reason they've still a + points difference is they scored 61 against Zebre in the first round.

If i remember correctly, they looked very promising and like they may strongly challenge the top 6 this year in that game, even though it was Zebre. They played beautifully attacking rugby.

Borders no.2

Scarlets beat Zebre 20-12 today. They had two tries inside 12 minutes but Zebre had it back to 17-12 late on but made some poor decision which eventually allowed Scarlets close it out.

vienne86

Borders no.2 wrote: »

Scarlets beat Zebre 20-12 today. They had two tries inside 12 minutes but Zebre had it back to 17-12 late on but made some poor decision which eventually allowed Scarlets close it out.

Did Scarlets get the TBP?

b.gud

vienne86 wrote: »

Did Scarlets get the TBP?

No

vienne86

b.gud wrote: »

No

Good! Table is tight enough, which is great.

b.gud

Scarlets away to Treviso, currently 12 - 10 to Scarlets at half time

Borders no.2

Harsh there against Treviso. Scarlets killing the ball on the line but with advantage Treviso spread it wide. Dudley Philips calls advantage over and the final pass goes forward.

Borders no.2

Disastrous scrum from Treviso and Scarlets on course to top the league.

Borders no.2

Treviso would wreck your head, turnover try to give them hope and then hit the post with simple conversion. 15-19.

Borders no.2

Treviso in for a try and lead with 8 minutes remaining. Maul causing Scarlets a lot of problems.

Zzippy

Is there a legal stream for this or where is it available?

Borders no.2

Treviso's Scotland moment there. Dubious call of a knock on which looked like a knock back. Treviso player gathers it and called a penalty. Shingler kicks it.20-22.

Borders no.2

On RAI Sports. Treviso knock on late on and their race looks run.

vienne86

Borders no.2 wrote: »

On RAI Sports. Treviso knock on late on and their race looks run.

Dammit, a Treviso win would have suited the rest of us nicely! Finished 20-22.

Borders no.2

Full time 20-22. Only positive was it was only 3 tries for Scarlets. Treviso probably deserved something but when you miss the sort of conversion Hayward missed after their 2nd try its hard to get a result. Interestingly though for the decisive penalty call Dudley Philips said he couldn't go upstairs to check it, given how ridiculous some of the issues referred to the TMO are it isn't particularly fair to lose a game to such a contentious call.

6 losing bonus points for Treviso now. They do have 2 games to come against Zebre though which may help them get a badly needed win.

b.gud

Zebre 7 - 0 up against the Ospreys

b.gud

Half time now, Ospreys are 22 - 12 up

vienne86

b.gud wrote: »

Half time now, Ospreys are 22 - 12 up

Finished 22-39, so BP win for Ospreys.

b.gud

Patchell to leave the Blues at the end of the season

http://www.pro12rugby.com/news/18597.php

Webbs

b.gud wrote: »

Patchell to leave the Blues at the end of the season

http://www.pro12rugby.com/news/18597.php

A good move for him and the Scarlets. Patchell has real potential at 10 and needs a consistent run in that position something the Blues never gave him.

Hopefully will see him start to fulfill that potential with what should be a serious looking backline developing at the scarlets.

b.gud

Webbs wrote: »

A good move for him and the Scarlets. Patchell has real potential at 10 and needs a consistent run in that position something the Blues never gave him.

Hopefully will see him start to fulfill that potential with what should be a serious looking backline developing at the scarlets.

Is he going to Scarlets? hadn't seen that anywhere just saw that he was leaving

b.gud

b.gud wrote: »

Is he going to Scarlets? hadn't seen that anywhere just saw that he was leaving

Never mind just saw this confirmation from Scarlets

Webbs

b.gud wrote: »

Never mind just saw this confirmation from Scarlets

A full strength backline for the scarlets will certainly be one of the more exciting lineups in the pro12

Gareth Davies
Rhys Patchell
Tagicakibau
Scott Williams
Jonathan Davies
van der merwe
Liam Williams