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Recent great movies where the "Baddie" or "Evil" prevails?

  • 20-07-2015 9:56pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,757 ✭✭✭


    There has been many a great movie ruined by a dishonest happy Hollywood ending. The only recent films I can think of are 'the descent' and 'the mist'... Are there many others?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,373 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Skeleton Key.
    Rosemary's Baby.
    W.
    Seven.
    Primal Fear.
    The Usual Suspects.
    The Wicker Man.
    Brazil.
    1984.
    No Country for Old Men.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 656 ✭✭✭EITS


    Nightcrawler


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Ageyev


    There are not enough films where the antagonist wins. :):
    Arlington Road
    is one that springs to mind.

    French film 'Martyrs' would be another I'd suggest watching. I won't say any more lest I spoil it but it opens up questions about what a happy ending is and what it means to "win"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    The Watchmen
    Memento

    Not to say the antagonist "wins" in both, but neither sway to the classic happy ending


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    3:10 to Yuma ... kind of fits in.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭5rtytry56


    Reservoir Dogs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,283 ✭✭✭gucci


    Event Horizon


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Cork boy 55


    Nearly all the WW2 ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,068 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    Blade Runner


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,700 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    The thread should be subtitled Spoiler Alert .


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    Some fascinating notions about what "recent" means on display in this thread :p

    Nightcrawler and Cabin In The Woods are probably the most recent ones I can think of. I suppose you could make an argument for A Girl Walks Home Alone At Night, Only Lovers Left Alive or Byzantium, but I think in all of those films it's not entirely clear-cut whether the characters involved are evil or just the product of their environments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭SouthTippBass


    The Empire strikes back,
    Silence of the lambs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭5rtytry56


    True Romance
    JFK


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭5rtytry56


    Death Sentence (Kevin Bacon)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,631 ✭✭✭pah


    Arghus wrote: »
    The thread should be subtitled Spoiler Alert .

    Thread title kind of implies it, no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭pmasterson95


    Watchmen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    50 Shades of Grey.

    Anastasia to get revenge in Part II though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭b34mer23


    A Most Wanted Man


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,434 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    The Dark Knight for me, even though the plan with the boats didn't work out he still pretty much got what he wanted in the end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭5rtytry56


    "The Fly " movies (1980's)starring Jeff Goldbloom.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,602 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    you could include any of the big horror heroes like Freddie, Jason and Michael Myers as they kill most of the people that they intend to and get to come back and do it all again later


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 934 ✭✭✭OneOfThem Stumbled


    The Empire strikes back,
    Silence of the lambs.
    5rtytry56 wrote: »
    Reservoir Dogs
    gucci wrote: »
    Event Horizon

    I wouldn't equate "not happy endings" necessarily with the baddie winning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 934 ✭✭✭OneOfThem Stumbled


    Skerries wrote: »
    you could include any of the big horror heroes like Freddie, Jason and Michael Myers as they kill most of the people that they intend to and get to come back and do it all again later

    Yes, but they don't really prevail do they? They generally have the crap kicked out of them and inexplicably* manage to return for a sequel




    *Black magic via US dollars


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,115 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    Skyfall.

    The Passion Of The Christ.

    United 93.

    Life Is Beautiful.

    A Serbian Film.

    Blair Witch Project.

    The Omen.

    Rosemary's Baby.

    Layer Cake (kind of).


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,682 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    The Dark Knight for me, even though the plan with the boats didn't work out he still pretty much got what he wanted in the end.

    It’s more of a pyrrhic victory. By taking the fall for Harvey’s crimes, Bruce prevents the Joker from winning but at considerable sacrifice to himself — and the creation of a lie which comes back to haunt everyone in TDKR.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,115 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    It’s more of a pyrrhic victory. By taking the fall for Harvey’s crimes, Bruce prevents the Joker from winning but at considerable sacrifice to himself — and the creation of a lie which comes back to haunt everyone in TDKR.

    You should write the descriptions on the back of DVD boxes. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭MattB11


    Sinister


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Dair76


    Fysh wrote: »
    Some fascinating notions about what "recent" means on display in this thread :p

    And some loose interpretations of the word "great" as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Downbeat endings;

    The Sand Pebbles
    Chinatown
    Von Ryan's Express


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,899 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    The Passion Of The Christ.

    interesting choice given the basic concepts of the story!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,899 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    Silence of the lambs.

    an interesting one on a number of levels

    technically Wild Bill is the baddie and doesn't prevail


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭5rtytry56


    The Last Temptation of Jesus Christ - Harvey Keitel as Christ.


  • Registered Users Posts: 638 ✭✭✭shazzerman


    Harvey Keitel played Judas in The Last Temptation of Christ. Willem Dafoe was Jesus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭5rtytry56


    The last exit to Brooklyn


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,404 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Nearly all the WW2 ones.

    Who exactly do you think the"baddies" were? Or more worryingly - the goodies?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    Though not what you could call recent, The original version of The Vanishing (Spoorloos) is the one that sticks out in my mind (and still haunts me). Why an earth I watched that to the end (actually I know why, it was a brilliantly made film), age apart, its definitely what your looking for OP. I will never watch it again though, I'll stick with the vastly inferior US remake for its ending.


  • Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭chanelfreak


    Oldboy (original version)
    Pretty much all Lars von Trier films
    The Mist
    Event Horizon (although I think that one is open to interpretation)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭fluke


    Planet of the Apes (original)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭5rtytry56


    Platoon produced by Oliver Stone


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭5rtytry56


    Taps
    find here
    Condo developers = baddies for me


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,448 ✭✭✭evil_seed


    Arlington Road


  • Registered Users Posts: 607 ✭✭✭Pete Moss


    The Cabin In The Woods.

    An over the top, slasher movie with thought. A great twist on the modern horror movie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭5rtytry56


    Psycho 2 (1969) Apparently "cured" Norman Bates returns to his old ways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,598 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    Natural Born Killers?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭5rtytry56


    Once Were Warriors
    (1994) new Zealand production.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Arlington Road


    The Grey


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭hidinginthebush


    5rtytry56 wrote: »
    Once Were Warriors
    (1994) new Zealand production.

    How do the baddies prevail there? It's a few years since I've seen it, but yer man gets an absolute hiding at the end of the movie, and jake is just about to get arrested when it ends. And the wife gets away.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,921 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Gone Girl


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,342 ✭✭✭Bobby Baccala


    Neds?

    This is England possibly


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