Wynonna Earp (SyFy) [** Spoilers **]

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TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote:

Whaaaaaa? How would that work?

I'm not convinced of it myself(it's possible), but because Wynonna travels through time next week, the theory goes that Wynonna will give birth in the past and that ties in with what Waverly and Nicole read in Willa's journal earlier in the season that indicated Waverly was taken in from somewhere

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Memphis Early Sister-in-law wrote: »

I'm not convinced of it myself(it's possible), but because Wynonna travels through time next week, the theory goes that Wynonna will give birth in the past and that ties in with what Waverly and Nicole read in Willa's journal earlier in the season that indicated Waverly was taken in from somewhere

Oh okay. I haven't seen the trailer for next week. I guess it could work.

I think Waverly being

half human half revenant is maybe a given at this point. Wynonna's potential baby daddy even said that it had happened before. I just see it making more sense for her to have the same mother as Wynonna and Willa as there's a big enough age gap there that they'd remember their mother being pregnant, or indeed not being pregnant. Also the fact that Bobo was Waverly's imaginary friend when she was little could tie in with him being her father. I'm sure there was something said about their father never really having that much to do with baby Waverly.

pl4ichjgy17zwd

yes Waverly has to be half revenant, how it plays out, we'll have to see. I do think they'll try to play it out that she's still an Earp too, though

Slydice

If that all happens :eek::eek:

Sudden Valley

That would be disappointing.the sisterly bond thing is kinda cute.

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Sudden Valley wrote:

That would be disappointing.the sisterly bond thing is kinda cute.

I agree, I like this dynamic.

Agent Coulson

Well now that put the cat among the pigeons.

A really good episode.


From what I can see they had to change the whole storyline of season 2 to incorporate the pregnancy and they have done an amazing job doing it I must say.

pl4ichjgy17zwd

Emily Andras is a very, very clever writer.

Slydice

Yes! This is one of those episodes that raises a show to a new level.

- Keeps developing it's own story
- Excellent Camera Work
- Top production quality

- INTRODUCES A FREAKING

TIME PARADOX

type thingey! (

where Wynona tells Bobo Waverlys name

)


Director or whoever keeps an eye on scenes needs to be keeping an eye on some practicalities.

There was yer wan biting through a jacket and Dolls checking for a pulse with gloves on!

Slydice

Memphis Early Sister-in-law wrote: »

Emily Andras is a very, very clever writer.

Just looked her up. She worked on Killjoys too!

Also, lol, at bobo typo (orwasit ):
https://twitter.com/emtothea/status/891132615620734977

Slydice

Haven't gotten around to any SDCC panels but just watched this interview from it:

heh a no-jerks rule for the casting director

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Agent Coulson wrote: »

From what I can see they had to change the whole storyline of season 2 to incorporate the pregnancy and they have done an amazing job doing it I must say.

It's tied in really well with some of what they'd already set up too. Like Bobo told Waverly she wasn't an Earp in S1 so they were obviously going to have to do something with that in S2. If the pregnancy hadn't come along who knows where that would have gone.
I wonder if Waverly being possessed would have run the full season if they hadn't had to work in the pregnancy too?

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

So given what happened in the last ep, with Wynonna technically dying and resetting the curse, does that mean she's not the heir anymore either? Is the baby the heir and therfore technically there is no heir until the baby turns whatever age the curse specified?

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TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote:

So given what happened in the last ep, with Wynonna technically dying and resetting the curse, does that mean she's not the heir anymore either? Is the baby the heir and therfore technically there is no heir until the baby turns whatever age the curse specified?

Or has Wynonna 'turned' 27 again?

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Memphis Early Sister-in-law wrote: »

Or has Wynonna 'turned' 27 again?

Also is everyone put down by Peacemaker back?

Juan Carlo said to Dolls "the Earp sisters will be reunited before sundown" Oddly non specific and at the same time Earp specific.

pl4ichjgy17zwd

Well next week looks like it will be a wild ride! The season 2 trailer had scenes of a few of them looking quite wild and feral, I reckon that could be from next week's episode

As for this week, I've suspected Rosita is a revenant for an episode or two, considering she seemed to have such a long history with Doc.

But they were a bit casual with Waverly's half-rev self-reveal. What happened that made her jump to that? I know she had the memory of Bobo saving her and she said 'Papa', but I want to know why she called him that back then but seemingly forgot until now. Also they wake Bobo up and then do nothing this (and probably) next week? Would they not notice him around?

I always seem to come out of this show with more questions than I had going in.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Glad they're finally working Rosita into the bigger story. It fells like maybe whatever they had planned for her got changed when they had to work in the pregnancy, or at least postponed by a few episodes.

Wynonna thinking the baby rattle was a maraca was hilarious.

pl4ichjgy17zwd

Well I don't have much to say about that episode...except for building us up for the next episode.

Looks like we're getting the alternate universe staple of these kind of genre shows. Usually a fun episode, though I look forward to seeing how it advances the plot enough to get everything wrapped up enough in the finale

Slydice

I .. I.. WHAT>!!?

Well they've two episodes left this season. It's just mad how they've pull what feels like multiple seasons of story into this one though and now this!

Nody

Slydice wrote: »

I .. I.. WHAT>!!?

Well they've two episodes left this season. It's just mad how they've pull what feels like multiple seasons of story into this one though and now this!

Could be setting up the arch for season 3 though which would be a good fit as they spend that season slowly realizing something is wrong and how to fix it while Bobo is back and a certain husband causes problems :P

Agent Coulson

A cracking episode and loved that ending.

Mr E

Excellent episode. Those few cliffhangers were worthy of a season finale. Looking forward to seeing how Bobo surfaces again - we haven't seen him since his resurrection.

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I'm pretty sure Wynonna is back by the end of the next episode

Agent Coulson

^^^

If anyone has read the spoiler can they say if it's about the episode or up coming episodes or next season or something just give a hint at what it's about I don't want to click on it and regret it.

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Agent Coulson wrote:

If anyone has read the spoiler can they say if it's about the episode or up coming episodes or next season or something just give a hint at what it's about I don't want to click on it and regret it.

A response to some other speculation on thread about how the rest of the episodes play out

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

This week's episode was great. Last week felt like a bit of a filler in some ways, not a lot happened to further the plot but this week was just madness!

I do love how this show balances the humour and the drama. I laughed multiple times this week and yet was totally absorbed in the drama of Waverly's dilemma. Can't believe there's only a few episodes left. I only watched S1 a few months ago so didn't have to wait for S2 at all, not looking forward to having to wait all year for S3

P.S. What a clever way to get rid of Wynonna for however long. I'm sure the actress was pretty much 9 months pregnant by the time they got to filming this late in the season. Whether it's only for one episode or the rest of the season they've worked the pregnancy and around the pregnancy so well.

P.P.S. I didn't understand Doc's reasoning for encouraging Waverly to do the deal with Beth Faced Widow? It sounded like he was saying it was worth it because Nicole would be cured and there to help them fight whatever was coming when the seal was broken but, as much as I like Nicole, she's the most expendable of the team, so that doesn't really make sense.

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TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote:

P.P.S. I didn't understand Doc's reasoning for encouraging Waverly to do the deal with Beth Faced Widow? It sounded like he was saying it was worth it because Nicole would be cured and there to help them fight whatever was coming when the seal was broken but, as much as I like Nicole, she's the most expendable of the team, so that doesn't really make sense.

Do you mean Dolls? I think this episode proved how much everyone in the circle loves Nicole. He obviously thinks her strength is needed in the fight against Clootie.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Memphis Early Sister-in-law wrote: »

Do you mean Dolls? I think this episode proved how much everyone in the circle loves Nicole. He obviously thinks her strength is needed in the fight against Clootie.

Yeah sorry, I meant Dolls.

I didn't mind him encouraging Waverly but the reasoning just seemed a little fuzzy to me. I suppose, as you say, everyone loves Nicole, so perhaps it was just a case of him being willing to justify doing anything to save her regardless of how sound the logic was.

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TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Yeah sorry, I meant Dolls.

I didn't mind him encouraging Waverly but the reasoning just seemed a little fuzzy to me. I suppose, as you say, everyone loves Nicole, so perhaps it was just a case of him being willing to justify doing anything to save her regardless of how sound the logic was.

He also probably knows that Waverly would fall apart if Nicole died and then they'd be two down.

Earlier in the season Wynonna told him: "If something happened to Nicole, Waverly would die."

pl4ichjgy17zwd

I loved this episode. Seeing everything turn into a ****show without Wynonna with some things just remaining intrinsically the same. The widows were great, as was Bobo. I can't wait to see how they settle this in the finale next week.

Slydice

They handled the alternative reality well and having it be just a kinda shadow reality felt new. Then all stuff at the end all happening at once!


As an aside: the police uniforms are starting to throw me off. They're like a mix between a star trek enterprise uniform and a baywatch lifeguard uniform. Maybe they've got a hilarious baywatch music theme scene coming up

Agent Coulson

The chemistry between the cast is amazing you can just tell they are having the time of their lives making this show.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

I loved that episode. Man, this show is so much fun, sucks there's only 1 ep left this season.

As mentioned above the alternate reality was handled really well. Interesting that Nicole was still in love with Waverly but Waverly was still riding the straight train, for the most part. I suppose it was down to Wynonna coming back to town that Waverly interacted with Nicole enough to realise she loved her?

I really hope Bobo sticks around for S3, they still haven't really addressed Waverly's parentage properly, whether Bobo is her father or not. I was sure he was but the episode where Wynonna was on her spirit quest kind of gave an alternative explanation for why he was so protective of her.

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TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Interesting that Nicole was still in love with Waverly but Waverly was still riding the straight train, for the most part. I suppose it was down to Wynonna coming back to town that Waverly interacted with Nicole enough to realise she loved her?

Speaking of Waverly — how in the world did she end up with Perry?
When we first meet Waverly in the series, she is with her high school boyfriend, Champ. Although we are a big fan of Dylan [Koroll’s] — the actor who plays Champ — we’re not a huge fan of Champ as a character. If Waverly had matured, I like the idea of her with someone who wasn’t necessarily a jerk.

I also liked the idea that she still hasn’t found herself. Wynonna showing up allowed Waverly to really examine who she is and what she wants. So if Wynonna never existed, I do buy that it might have taken Waverly longer than anticipated. But of course, just that proximity to Nicole Haught was going to wear her down eventually and make her realize the truth.

(x)

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

^ I have to say I really love Waverly and Nicole. I think it's because quite often on TV shows a gay character exists as the gay character, if you know what I mean? Here, being gay is not the defining characteristic for either Nicole or Waverly. Other than the episodes where Waverly was realising her feelings, their sexuality is completely irrelevant.

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TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

^ I have to say I really love Waverly and Nicole. I think it's because quite often on TV shows a gay character exists as the gay character, if you know what I mean? Here, being gay is not the defining characteristic for either Nicole or Waverly. Other than the episodes where Waverly was realising her feelings, their sexuality is completely irrelevant.

They're one of the best, if not the best, handled gay couples on a TV show. The showrunner and the actors all really care about getting it right too.

Btw, does any one else follow the side mystery?

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Memphis Early Sister-in-law wrote: »

Btw, does any one else follow the side mystery?

What's that?

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TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

What's that?

http://www.purgatorysd.com/

Basically it's a police case that we're given clues to each week. It's supernatural and connected to the history of black badge. If you click on the case logs you can view the entries from the start.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Is it trying to pass for Texas? I don remember them specifying where they were, other than Purgatory. Plus they made a point of saying Black Badge are cross border and the Canadian flag is on their badges. I had assumed they were somewhere like Montana or Dakota, especially given nobody has an accent other than Doc.

Just going back to this conversation, I was watching some clips from S1 and there's a bit where Nedley tells Nicole that the people who live in Purgatory just want a quiet life with a nice view of the Rockies. The Rockies stretch from Northern Canada right down to New Mexico

Narrows the location down a bit though, I suppose.

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I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be set in Canada. In the early eps Dolls talks about BBD being part of a joint US/Canadian taskforce.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Just realised I'm going to be away this weekend so won't get to see the finale until Wednesday, at the earliest

At least it's 4 less days I have to wait until S3

Blazer

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

^ I have to say I really love Waverly and Nicole. I think it's because quite often on TV shows a gay character exists as the gay character, if you know what I mean? Here, being gay is not the defining characteristic for either Nicole or Waverly. Other than the episodes where Waverly was realising her feelings, their sexuality is completely irrelevant.

Also helps both are hought.
The worst has to be Curtis in Arrow, what a pain in the hole he is..I must see my husband. My husband is divorcing me, i’ve a date with my husband...Jesus worst gay character ever!

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That was a sucker punch of a finale. Outstanding performances all around, I thought.

Also, Elmo, I wonder does the ending give some possible answers to your query about Dolls encouraging Waverly to give up the third seal ring??

Agent Coulson

Vagina!

Slydice

The finale was grand. Again lots going on.

I thought one of the coolest bits

was the gun working for Waverly but also that it was more of a blue colour.

The ending:
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like that was multi part cliffhanger is my guess.

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Dolls looks like he's upto something.. is he actually still working for black badge and they've just gone dark

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Nicole seeming to have her own agenda kinda helps me get why her character turned more.. soft as the season went on.. it might all be some play

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Nicole had that ring at the end.. could that restore Docs immortality.. Rucktions aheads!

although.. maybe that's a subtitle of the show anyway
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Wynonnas mother! My guess is either a big part of next season or gets killed/dies and the story focuses on taking on whoever did it or something she reveals

So then.. kinda seperately..

will we have a baby in the show next year

?

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Just watched it, totes emosh, guys.

That said I stopped it at 9 minutes in to check the time because I had already laughed about 5 times.

Memphis Early Sister-in-law wrote: »

Also, Elmo, I wonder does the ending give some possible answers to your query about Dolls encouraging Waverly to give up the third seal ring??

Yeah, I'm not sure what that ending was about. It's possible Nicole and Dolls are just working on something together in a purely professional capacity but Dolls' face looked super suspicious and he mentioned again in this episode that Waverly's betrayal was fine because it meant Nicole was still here. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad Nicole is still there too but Dolls' newfound appreciation for her seems odd. (side note, I don't think the guy playing Dolls is the best at the old acting thing. He was alright in S1 as the uptight cop guy but since BB upped sticks he's been the weak link for me. Point being sometimes it's hard to know what he's trying to convey at times.)

I did wonder how they were going to fit the baby in next season, babies are never good for TV shows, but it never occurred to me that Wynonna would send it away, although it makes perfect sense. How heartbreaking was that scene though

I thought they did Rosita dirty there, she never really deserved any of the **** she got, glad she didn't die though.

Waverly's parentage is still up for debate. I assume the mother coming into it next season will answer that one? Did Bobo say she was kin? It's kind of hard to make out what that dude is saying at times. Also the fact Peacemaker worked for Waverly could suggest she's an Earp after all, just a different Earp?

I wonder if the fact Peacemaker was blue was down to Waverly or down to the fact it was pointed at Rosita? She was an innocent victim of Wyatt's gun and I don't think she's done anything on the level of the other Revenants. Maybe she won't get sucked back to hell if they shoot her? As I was typing that I realised when Wynonna pointed it at her a few episodes back it glowed red, so that probably answers my question.

GOD! How am I going to wait a year for S3?! :mad:

(P.S. Wynonna said the F word :eek:)

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TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote:

I wonder if the fact Peacemaker was blue was down to Waverly or down to the fact it was pointed at Rosita? She was an innocent victim of Wyatt's gun and I don't think she's done anything on the level of the other Revenants. Maybe she won't get sucked back to hell if they shoot her? As I was typing that I realised when Wynonna pointed it at her a few episodes back it glowed red, so that probably answers my question.

Peacemaker turned blue when Wynonna shot Willa too. My theory, which I'll spoiler just in case is:

it turns blue when the shooter wants to send the person to heaven

Nody

Memphis Early Sister-in-law wrote: »

Peacemaker turned blue when Wynonna shot Willa too. My theory, which I'll spoiler just in case is:

it turns blue when the shooter wants to send the person to heaven

I think an easier answer is turns blue when

you shoot a blood relative of yours that deserve Peacemaker treatment; i.e. sent directly to hell like a revenant

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Memphis Early Sister-in-law wrote: »

Peacemaker turned blue when Wynonna shot Willa too. My theory, which I'll spoiler just in case is:

it turns blue when the shooter wants to send the person to heaven

Oh, now that's a plausible theory. It would work in the idea of choice vs fate, which is something Emily Andrass is always talking about in the inside the episode videos.

Nody wrote: »

I think an easier answer is turns blue when

you shoot a blood relative of yours that deserve Peacemaker treatment; i.e. sent directly to hell like a revenant

This would mean Waverly and Rosita are related?

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

I forgot to mention the scene where Waverly took the baby across the town line to see if they were revenants or not. Did Willa not break that barrier at the end of S1? Or did killing her put it back up?

Also, a fan account on twitter was speculating on blue Peacemaker and Doc himself had a theory... https://twitter.com/realtimrozon/status/902178828361109505