Confused About my fiancé watching gay porn

jobbridge4life

jimdublin15 wrote: »

I never said I was straight - your having problems understanding a subject and hence your hitting out instead of tying to open your mind and learn something.
The below comment from you, instead of trying to understand says it all.

Understand what? Look its your right to call yourself a carrot or pisexual if you want but you have been engaged in obfuscation. At the end of the day for someone looking at you they have to use the language we have to describe you and from what I have read you could be accurately be said to be bi. Now you are free to disagree but to then refuse to say what you are like it was the third secret of fatima is just a bit much.

jimdublin15

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Understand what? Look its your right to call yourself a carrot or pisexual if you want but you have been engaged in obfuscation. At the end of the day for someone looking at you they have to use the language we have to describe you and from what I have read you could be accurately be said to be bi. Now you are free to disagree but to then refuse to say what you are like it was the third secret of fatima is just a bit much.

I never said I was straight read back my posts and the answer you quoted was to make it clear to summer that it was a presumption made that I was no confusion intended and my post was to clarify the matter. I only said I was not gay and summer presumed that i must be "completely straight" On the topic I explained that "gay/Straight" it's not so back and white and that it's his issue and not mine.

If you don't like that then sorry can't help you.

jimdublin15

Summertime8989 wrote: »

So when you had boyfriends what was that about. Lol you're something else

I'm BI so that's what that is about, you never asked and went from presuming I was straight in the early thread because I said I was not gay to probing for 2 pages on my sexual identity without actually just asking.

EDIT:
Most of your posts are just about "closest gays" and if that's okay and what I think about them, and if I am not gay and I'm not straight I am not completely straight.

Sure I could have mentioned it earlier but you seemed do head strong on the subject " Closest gay" or "completely straight "

Summertime8989

"I never said I was straight. My Sexual Identity is straight " "I've had boyfriends. Im not emotionally attracted to men" You're just one big giant contradiction

Edit Apparently he's bi now lol

Lostman1990

jimdublin15 wrote: »

I never said I was straight - your having problems understanding a subject and hence your hitting out instead of tying to open your mind and learn something.
The below comment from you, instead of trying to understand says it all.

With all due respect Jim, it is difficult to argue on a subject if someone is constantly arguing semantics like you are doing? You're not this, you're not that, your relationship is this, someone else might say it is this, I say it is not this, straight means this, gay means that, etc, etc, etc....
I completely understand the point that labels can pigeonhole...I also understand that representation using language, at its most extreme, can never give absolute truths in our world.
However, although our language is a mere social construction, we can still get meaning from it...I think you are playing semantics...
My view is that you are bi-sexual...you had a straight, married relationship where you did not cheat, however you are still sexually attracted to men...Big deal...
I await the nonsense about how rude I am to tell someone what their sexual identity is....

jimdublin15

Summertime8989 wrote: »

"I never said I was straight. My Sexual Identity is straight " "I've had boyfriends. Im not emotionally attracted to men" You're just one big giant contradiction

Edit Apparently he's bi now lol

If your going to quote please do it correctly see below I said as example and it's a good example of someone who may identify as straight but have sex with other men.

jimdublin15 wrote: »

I never said I was either, why does my Sexual identity matter so much to you ?
If I said as an example that: (It's not BTW)

My Sexual identity is straight as I have romantic and sexual attraction to women, however I also just sleep with men but are not romantic attracted to them.
Would that settle the topic for you ?

jimdublin15

Lostman1990 wrote: »

With all due respect Jim, it is difficult to argue on a subject if someone is constantly arguing semantics like you are doing? You're not this, you're not that, your relationship is this, someone else might say it is this, I say it is not this, straight means this, gay means that, etc, etc, etc....
I completely understand the point that labels can pigeonhole...I also understand that representation using language, at its most extreme, can never give absolute truths in our world.
However, although our language is a mere social construction, we can still get meaning from it...I think you are playing semantics...
My view is that you are bi-sexual...you had a straight, married relationship where you did not cheat, however you are still sexually attracted to men...Big deal...
I await the nonsense about how rude I am to tell someone what their sexual identity is....

Well it's not about that at all to be honest it's if you read back the thread "Summer" jumping onto the logic that Gay porn watching means gay and then "not completely straight" and linking the topic to "Closeted gay men getting married" and then making the presumption that I was or agreed with "Closeted gay men".

syklops

The OP asked a question. She talked to her fiance, she came back and reported it here. Time to close the thread.

Summertime8989

My Sexual identity is straight as I have romantic and sexual attraction to women, however I also just sleep with men but are not romantic attracted to them.
Would that settle the topic for you ?[/QUOTE]

jimdublin15 wrote: »

I'm BI so that's what that is about, you never asked and went from presuming I was straight in the early thread because I said I was not gay to probing for 2 pages on my sexual identity without actually just asking.

jimdublin15 wrote: »

I never said I was straight - your having problems understanding a subject and hence your hitting out instead of tying to open your mind and learn something.
The below comment from you, instead of trying to understand says it all.

jimdublin15 wrote: »

It true, i'm not in my 20's i'm older and before I got married yes I had boyfriends and Girlfriends. Than I met someone I wanted to settle down with, I met her in a gay bar . But what is you point ??


Why do you feel it should ?

jimdublin15 wrote: »

If your going to quote please do it correctly see below I said as example and it's a good example of someone who may identify as straight but have sex with other men.

There you go I quoted, lets recap "I never said I was straight. My sexual identity is straight. I've had boyfriends. I'm not emotionally attracted to men. I'm bi"

Lost count of the contradictions lol. As long as your happy Jimmy. There all quotes I messed up quoting top as I'm a technophobe

LorMal

syklops wrote: »

The OP asked a question. She talked to her fiance, she came back and reported it here. Time to close the thread.

She was told by her fiancee that he watches gay porn regularly but that he is straight. When she reported this back here, she was congratulated. One genius even said 'I told you so - you shouldn't have asked'.
And we got a lot of stuff about his right to 'identify' as straight and that this supercedes her right to know if her fiance is gay/bi-sexual or not.

So, I am really not sure it ended when she got the good news from her fiancee.

jimdublin15

I only said I was not gay, I did not say I was straight and you quoted a few of my lines but i never said i was straight.
Sorry if you don't understand.

Edit @ summer:
If your going to quote please do it correctly see below I said as example and it's a good example of someone who may identify as straight but have sex with other men.

jimdublin15 wrote: »

I never said I was either, why does my Sexual identity matter so much to you ?
If I said as an example that: (It's not BTW)

My Sexual identity is straight as I have romantic and sexual attraction to women, however I also just sleep with men but are not romantic attracted to them.
Would that settle the topic for you ?

blatantrereg

syklops wrote: »

The OP asked a question. She talked to her fiance, she came back and reported it here. Time to close the thread.

Yes absolutely.

Top item in the trending list on the front page two weeks after the OP indicated it was all sorted. Not very nice exposure for something so personal... Also I don't even know what the other recent repies are on about at this point, don't think it's related to the topic any more though.

Summertime8989

jimdublin15 wrote: »

I only said I was not gay, I did not say I was straight and you quoted a few of my lines but i never said i was straight.
Sorry if you don't understand.

I've have quoted above where you say you are straight. I'm sorry you can't understand. You can't deny it any more x

Summertime8989

jimdublin15 wrote: »

I never said I was either, why does my Sexual identity matter so much to you ?
If I said as an example that: (It's not BTW)

My Sexual identity is straight as I have romantic and sexual attraction to women, however I also just sleep with men but are not romantic attracted to them.
Would that settle the topic for you ?

Second paragraph Jimmy x

jimdublin15

Summertime8989 wrote: »

I've have quoted above where you say you are straight. I'm sorry you can't understand. You can't deny it any more x

If your going to quote please do it correctly see below I said as example and it's a good example of someone who may identify as straight but have sex with other men. Marked in bold this time for you.

jimdublin15 wrote: »

I never said I was either, why does my Sexual identity matter so much to you ?
If I said as an example that: (It's not BTW)

My Sexual identity is straight as I have romantic and sexual attraction to women, however I also just sleep with men but are not romantic attracted to them.
Would that settle the topic for you ?

Summertime8989

jimdublin15 wrote: »

I only said I was not gay, I did not say I was straight and you quoted a few of my lines but i never said i was straight.
Sorry if you don't understand.

My Sexual identity is straight as I have romantic and sexual attraction to women, however I also just sleep with men but are not romantic attracted to them.
Would that settle the topic for you ?

I can keep proving you wrong x
Proven wrong x

jimdublin15

Anyhow on the topic.

The OP's fiancé watching a bit of gay porn does not mean he's gay, i know lots of straight men and women who watch all types of porn.
People even when in a relationship or marriage will have own thoughts and Fantasies and as long as they don't act on the fantasy
behind the partners backs then i don't see the problem.

Porn is just porn nothing more nothing less.

LorMal

jimdublin15 wrote: »

Anyhow on the topic.

The OP's fiancé watching a bit of gay porn does not mean he's gay, i know lots of straight men and women who watch all types of porn.
People even when in a relationship or marriage will have own thoughts and Fantasies and as long as they don't act on the fantasy
behind the partners backs then i don't see the problem.

Porn is just porn nothing more nothing less.

Honestly, who do you hang out with?

jimdublin15

Summertime8989 wrote: »

I can keep proving you wrong x

You mean you can keep half quoting to confuse the matters more like.
I explained as an example how someone could self identify as straight yet fall under "MSM"

Originally Posted by jimdublin15 :
I never said I was either, why does my Sexual identity matter so much to you ?
If I said as an example that: (It's not BTW)

My Sexual identity is straight as I have romantic and sexual attraction to women, however I also just sleep with men but are not romantic attracted to them.
Would that settle the topic for you ?

jimdublin15

LorMal wrote: »

Honestly, who do you hang out with?

Normal people as far as I know, I know a few women who watch gay porn

Summertime8989

Jim is seriously deluded people. I quoted every contradiction he made several times and yet he denies it lol . People can read you know jim

pl4ichjgy17zwd

He specifically said '(It's not BTW)'. I think you're the one reading wrong.

jimdublin15

Summertime8989 wrote: »

Jim is seriously deluded people. I quoted every contradiction he made several times and yet he denies it lol . People can read you know jim

Yeah, and they will see you the one deluding. You kept hammering on that I must agree and think it's okay for "closest gays to marry women" and got childish when called out that I never said I agreed with that and went on to misquoting.

Anyhow I'm done talking to you about the closest gays and i've told you I think the OP''s fiance is just a fella watching porn and I see no harm in that as long as it's fantasy that he does not act out outside the relationship.

Annasopra

I'm locking this thread temporarily until it is reviewed by another moderator.

LorMal

Stepped in on request


LorMal, if you have a problem with a post please report it

LorMal wrote: »

Some moderate moderator

Summertime8989 do not post in this thread again if it is reopened.
I am giving you a chance as a relatively new user but this kind of posting will get you a ban in future.

Summertime8989 wrote: »

How incredibly slow to think someone who can fall in love and be sexually attracted to the same sex is exclusively straight? Are you ok Joey?

How can you identify as straight if you have mulitple boyfriends. Explain that Joey please

Dazzle me with your psychobabble

Summertime8989 wrote: »

How juvenile. You'll post a full paragraph stating why you won't answer a question instead of just saying yes or no. Your wife's depression meeting her in a gay bar etc had nothing to do with OP either but you were happy talking about that. Once again you don't want to answer because you think it's ok for a closeted gay man to marry a women. You Watch gay porn and go to gay bars so I understand why you mightn't want to answer if it's ok for a closeted man to marry a women. Hmm

Summertime8989 wrote: »

Still hasn't answered does he think its ok for a closeted man to marry a women. You said you watch gay porn and you're marriage failed so maybe you're another closet case in denial hence you don't want to condemne yourself. Lol no evidence to suggest he's gay apart from **** to two men having sex frequently.