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UFC 190 - Rousey v Correia
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EuskalHerria wrote: »Mellor is famous for his sense of humour around these parts.
I figured as much, plus it dosent help that my smiley at end of that never showed, which made my post a bit serious rather than tounge in cheek0 -
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Correia via KO/TKO
What passes as comedy these days :rolleyes:Mmmm_Lemony wrote: »I was joking about the early stoppage and fix.
Nobody knows how a fight will play out a lot of people wanna see fighters doing their utmost to win 10 secs or 25 mins who cares, sure hindsights a great thing I'd much rather see that than Silva act the Knob for 25 mins with Maia in Abu DhabiMmmm_Lemony wrote: »I mean no one could get near them in terms of ability and skill. What I'm saying is, watching a fight that lasts 30 seconds and watching a fight that lasts 2/3 rounds is a completely different entertainment prospect for fans.
The undefeated thing is a given, who said Bethe was a knockout artist? who believed that!Mmmm_Lemony wrote: »The same way they have built up every fighter that has come up against her. e.g. "She's a knockout artist, undefeated" etc... then gets knocked out inside of 35 seconds.
Those bouts needed to find a home they were supposed to take place in the U.S. but there was complications with Visas or something, they shouldn't have taken place on the main card but they were extra fights it wasn't as if they were taking the place of other potential fights. As Dtp1979 says the event was in Brazil of course it was catered for Brazilians.Mmmm_Lemony wrote: »The card had 2 final fights from a TV show that has been playing out for the last while and then a few legends thrown in, all brazilian. The card was built up for the brazilian audience IMO.
What hype? clearly the real deal the Jon Jones/Mighty Mouse of her division. Meisha has worked her way back to her by winning 4 straight shes got there on merit shes also taken Ronda to round 3 there is nothing to build people aren't necessarily gonna think Meisha has a hope but the intrigue will be there given their history too. All Rondas fights in the UFC have made sense for the time Mighty Mouse clearly has a bigger issue in that sense.Mmmm_Lemony wrote: »The UFC have done a great job of ensuring there is hype for her fights and there is a good card for the demographic that it's aimed at. That hype train costs a lot of money.
The question was are fans going to pay to see her fight without a stacked card and tons of hype? She's too good and has cleaned out the division. Could people start to lose interest?
As for Ronda needing stacked cards you've clearly ignored my last post so maybe you'll get the picture....
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Correia via KO/TKOOk folks, just got back from this in Rio and read through the thread.
I was huge moral support to the organisers of UFC 1 and even at 14 years of age I helped them scout venues in Denver to host it as I could see that fighting between mismatched weighted individuals with little or no rules was the future. :pac:
This was my first live UFC event.
I got completely hooked coming up to around 1.5 yrs ago when I moved to Brazil. Nothing to do with Brazil being a huge MMA country, I had been a casual follower of it before that but over here your usual UFC Saturday night starts at 8pm and goes on until 2am.
A perfect way to spend a Saturday night avoiding mischief in public.
So me and my mate stayed in Lapa in Rio which is the Temple Bar area. The Maracanãzinho that hosts Fight Nights and has a capacity of around 11,800 is beside the Maracana, the World Cup final stadium and would be maybe 15mins away from Lapa by taxi. The last Fight Night there had an attendance of 7.700.
Unfortunately the HSBC arena, which hosts the gymnastics for the Olympics is 30 odd Km out of the city centre in a place Barra de Tijuca, which is where the Olympics will be.
It's a ball/vagina ache to get to.
We paid R$295-€83 for our tickets which were off 'to the side' of the octagon in section 314, 3 rows from the front.
The historic exchange rate between R$ and Euro in my mind would be 3:1 but that's shot out to 3.7:1 as of right now.
We got on and bought the 'bandwagoner special seats' :pac: as soon as they went on sale at 12pm or whatever and our choice was extremely limited.
From reading here I guess that's because the fight club/pass people get first choice and damn all are available to general public.
I saw the post someone had here from a tweet from 'front row Brian' about the hotel where the UFC were staying and I gently suggested to my companion about maybe checking it out some morning.
He didn't jump at the idea and I wasn't too enthused myself.
The weigh-ins unfortunately were also in the arena. I was hoping they would do them in some iconic hotel or something near the beach, even the hotel they were staying at would've been good but they didn't.
So instead of possibly bumping into UFC people in the hotel or seeing the weigh-in we relaxed on the beach while doing some intensive leering.
To get to the venue, and hence the Olympic venues/areas as previously mentioned is an absolute ball/vagina ache.
A metro goes from Lapa(and beyond Lapa) to the beaches at Copacabana and Ipanema and it is an excellent service, R$3.70-€1. But from what we could see there won't be a Metro bringing you out there from Lapa/Copacabana/Ipanema, there will be dedicated bus lanes which work pretty well but not as good as a metro.
You might have to change buses to get to HSBC Arena or other Olympic venues, who de fck knows. But it certainly makes it more cumbersome than a metro.
So to get there we jumped on the metro to Ipanema(R$3.70-€1) got some grub and then a taxi to the HSBC arena.
Traffic was a fckr near the venue, took exactly 1 hour and R$72 -€20.
So we got outside the venue at 8:40pm and missed the early prelims.
The venue was well run, my mate is a red head living in Sao Paulo and if he stood in front of an igloo you would just see his hair, eyes and eyebrows.
A couple of lads checking tickets came straight over asking in English if we were ok as possibly we stood out.
Even with the bad traffic there was no queue at all going into the venue, past security, ticket check etc.
I dunno if this is like all UFC venues, (I decided to pursue other interests after UFC 1 :pac:) but they had lots of things to pass the time if you got there early.
Such as taking a photo with a UFC replica belt, standing on a UFC scale and getting weighed-in, some glass displays of gloves from UFC fights etc.
But we legged it up to our seats.
Also you buy beer and drink it at your seat. A local beer for R$7-€2 for a 350ml can or to show your social status you can buy Buduriner for $8-€2.30.
You queued up a little to buy tokens for beer then very little of a queue to actually get your beer at another stand. So the beer people didn't deal with cash.
I was at a Bernard Dunne fight in the point/point nua and you couldn't take booze to your seat.
As an aside the women at the event were probably the largest number of most beautiful women I've ever seen.
We paid €83 for the cheapest seats, it then went up to R$650-€170 then on up to ballpark €250/€300 or more a seat.
If you are a Brazilian guy going to UFC you are probably doing well for yourself and you can probably feel confident enough to land yourself a stunner and buy her a ticket for UFC
Same as anywhere really.....
There did seem to be a few girls in together to watch it, but mainly any girls there were with their jockeys partners.
So on with the fighting!!
Atmosphere was very disappointing overall.
Our top tier section was pretty full but the sections near the octagon were near empty until towards the end. Fking rich bastrads and their enviable lives.
There was one guy up behind us very jarred and turning round to the crowd and roaring during the night but everyone was laughing.
But I need to go back and re watch the whole thing again. Might post again about it.
From what I can remember now.
Cummins fight was good, he was a mess at the end of it. Good atmosphere for Bigfoot, and probably Shogun fight was the most exciting as it see-sawed.
However the atmosphere for Ronda was absolutely electric. It was amazing.
When they first put up the promo snippet on the big screen it sounded like universal cheers for Ronda and then a mix of cheers or almost more boo-urns-ing for Bethe.
My mate and I were surprised. Also when I pointed out to my mate that we won't have any commentary from Joe Rogan etc during the night he looked at me shocked :eek:
The venue is great, we had a great view for our ticket price.
However it seems like it wasn't shown on telly but I think after the 2nd(maybe the 1st) prelim fight they introduced all the current Brazilian UFC belt holders, Aldo et al. Was this shown?
I was at the bar so just saw them sitting back down.
If you can close your eyes and use your imagination we were section 314 3 rows from the back. Joe Rogan and Goldie had their backs to us at the lower left corner of the octagon as we looked at it but we could see their telly screens.
You can see the ring walk comes from the top left of that image above.
Anyway, the reason I say this is that Aldo and the others were ringside at that left side of the Octagon reserved for UFC which doesn't have a number in the image.
Then I would reckon around ballpark the 2nd fight-ish of the 7 of the main card a scuffle broke out behind Aldo etc in the decent seats in section 23.
It wasn't an all out brawl but it distracted you from what was happening inside the octagon.
I didn't see any punches being thrown, it seem like a standoff, pushing/shoving and verbals. Bouncers were slowish to react and seemed to be very very slow to eject anyone.
So that died down. And then flaired ( WOO! ) up again.
Everyone looking at it, people in that vicinity standing up, taking photos, lots of scuffling, shoving but not out of hand.
Then it dies down again.
But then it flairs (WOO!) up again and more scuffling going on as before.
Then the next thing Aldo jumps out of his seat and storms back through his area of seats, hops the wall and goes right into the middle of the cuffufle in section 23.
:eek: :eek:
I can positively ID him as Jose Aldo, M'laud, as introduced as same by the MC and I saw same said gentleman hop the barrier and confront someone in a threatening manner, M'Laud.
He then went back to his seat after a minute or 2. Again seemed like no one was ejected.
Did anyone hear anything about this?
Also some Frosty-haired suited caucasian chap ran and hopped the barrier and got involved aswell. No idea who he was but he was white, with snow white hair and seemed to be sitting near Dana earlier on.
The atmosphere for the TUF finals was absolutely dead. I had actually half-watched a few of them the week before just so I would be more invested in them. Nobody in the crowd gave a monkeys.
Also all this chat from Dana etc about the Brazilian fans being passionate is boolooks. They do a lot of boo-urns-ing when it goes to the ground for a prolonged period, reminded me of Frogs at the French Open tennis. There is no singing or chanting, just occasional screams when something exciting happens.
I haven't been to UFC in Dublin, this was my first time, and even on TV or, eh, flows of water, the atmosphere seemed to be incredible there.
However as I said the atmosphere for Ronda was electric.
That fight started at 2:25am local time.
Ronda's ringwalk(octagon walk ) started from the far right instead of the far left. I haven't watched it again but we thought that the fans seemed to be trying to punch/hit her as she walked instead of patting or cheering her. Thought it was a bit off myself.
I saw her in interviews saying she loves fighting there and how the crowd boos her and everything. Although she was selling the fight at that stage.
There was no need for her to go there as a champ and she did.
By the time it started the crowd had kinda turned against her again. From the huge cheers a few hours earlier it was now almost all boos for her except interestingly all the girls near us seemed to be cheering Ronda on. Interesting. :cool:
But at least as a first time spectator the crowd were going mental.
It was incredible.
Still have to rewatch that fight but Bethe was clearly knocked out for about 1-2 seconds, game over. But they went hell for leather for it from the get go.
But Christ after it Ronda stood almost peacocking triumphantly on her tippy toes in victory, it was amazing .
I think it was a very satisfying victory for her.
So as Joe Rogan stepped into the Octagon, me and my mate, and several thousand others, tried to beat the rush to get a taxi for the 30km to get back into town.
We got out the venue handy as it is a new venue so the crowd gets out very easily.
We just followed everyone else as we were out in the middle of nowhere and needed a taxi. Maybe if it is was in the Macaranazinho you could almost follow the whole crowd and walk for 30 mins safely into the Lapa area.
After only between 5-10minutes walking the first taxi man who shouted he was available we chatted to, we told him Lapa and he said up front R$50-€15 each.
This was grand for us as we were expecting R$75 each, but we had to share with 2 other lads and the driver knocked the metre off.
Everyone was a winner in fairness.
My mate, who has better portuguese, was chatting to one of the lads with us. He reckoned McGregor/Mendes was a fix but also at that time had no idea what the fight in the crowd was about but was gonna check on Brazilian MMA blogs.
Ended up being a 30 min taxi ride which was grand.
So that's the craic.
Will defo rewatch the whole thing and see what else I make of it.0 -
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Rousey via DecisionWrongway1985 wrote: »
That was obviously down to Koscheck being on the card.
As for 'Hype', by hype I'm talking about the ufc making the other fighters she is up against appear like they have a chance. Building interest. That sort of thing. No question Rousey is untouchable and the best there is in womens MMA. What I'm asking is outside of a Cris Cyborg matchup, will fans pay to see her armbar the **** out of her opponents in less than a minute? Will they continue to do this?0 -
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Correia via KO/TKOI would be totally against contact sport for women without protection. It's just not natural for women to be kicking and punching the crap out of each other. Call me an old fashion bastard
If by "old fashioned" you mean you are a misogynist you are right. If women can go through child birth they can take a few knocks off each other.
Idea that women should be frail and dainty comes more from male insecurity regarding their own masculinity.0 -
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