UFC 190 - Rousey v Correia

Mellor · 31-07-2015 12:58am

Rousey via Decision

jcd5971 wrote: »

Yeah but is the point not that wildly fluctuating levels in and of themselves are indicative of foul play regardless of the actual ratio.

Weidman was around 3.8 both tests
Belfort was 12.something and 5.something
Despite belfort being nearly a decade older than Weidman. Which was Weidman point

Not really tbh. Levels flucuation naturally within a normal range over the day, week etc. Going from 5 to 12 looks like a big increase, but that's only because they are both so low here. I think the normal range would be around 50-80 (for those units).

When it was first reported it wasn't clear what units were used. Some were using a different scale (600 - 1200), so it looked like Vitor went from normal to double normal. And Chris was marginally low. But infact they were both really low.

Mellor · 31-07-2015 2:21am

Rousey via Decision

Has anyone any thoughts on the TUF brazil final?

31-07-2015 9:09am

jcd5971 wrote: »

Fighter bashing my eye, seen her and a few other men and women fighters in mgm during 189 and she was bigger and bulkier than some of the guys, she dosent look natural in terms of her shape at all, and she can't even make the bloody weight anyway so it's all mute

thank you.. some people just love to throw the fighter bashing card round these days.

Mellor · 31-07-2015 9:33am

Rousey via Decision

A Rousey throw from embedded. Absolute animal
http://gfycat.com/ImmaculatePaleErne#

Correia by comparison, looks like a baby sitting down.
http://media.giphy.com/media/l41m1sAxn19O4Te7e/giphy.gif

Zero-Cool · 31-07-2015 9:35am

Rousey via Decision

Mellor wrote: »

A Rousey throw from embedded. Absolute animal
http://gfycat.com/ImmaculatePaleErne#

Correia by comparison, looks like a baby sitting down.
http://media.giphy.com/media/l41m1sAxn19O4Te7e/giphy.gif

My God this is gonna be a massacre of UFC 2 proportions

31-07-2015 9:37am

Mellor wrote: »

A Rousey throw from embedded. Absolute animal
http://gfycat.com/ImmaculatePaleErne#

Correia by comparison, looks like a baby sitting down.
http://media.giphy.com/media/l41m1sAxn19O4Te7e/giphy.gif

yeah and rouseys done that so many times it's as natural as sneezing, it just happens.. I agree, the Brazilians in for a sore landing.

jarain · 31-07-2015 9:53am

Mellor wrote: »

A Rousey throw from embedded. Absolute animal
http://gfycat.com/ImmaculatePaleErne#

Correia by comparison, looks like a baby sitting down.
http://media.giphy.com/media/l41m1sAxn19O4Te7e/giphy.gif

Ronda's leg movement is unreal in that clip, and compare that to Correia's which is non existent!!! The position adjustment after the sweep is great.

This is done after the first clinch I think.

MartyMcFly84 · 31-07-2015 10:58am

Correia via KO/TKO

Who do you guys think will win Shogun v Nogueira ?

I don't think Shogun has ever lost more than two on the trot. But he is the poster boy for inconsistency.

Looking on paper , Nogueira has had more success over the last few years. But Shogun has faced tougher opposition in most cases, but if memory serves me right he was soundly beaten in almost all the fights he has lost in the last couple years save the Henderson fight. (I could be wrong on that.)

Mellor · 31-07-2015 11:07am

Rousey via Decision

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

Who do you guys think will win Shogun v Nogueira ?

I don't think Shogun has ever lost more than two on the trot. But he is the poster boy for inconsistency.

Looking on paper , Nogueira has had more success over the last few years. But Shogun has faced tougher opposition in most cases, but if memory serves me right he was soundly beaten in almost all the fights he has lost in the last couple years save the Henderson fight. (I could be wrong on that.)

I think both Nog are broken at this stage

MartyMcFly84 · 31-07-2015 11:10am

Correia via KO/TKO

I think both Nog are broken at this stage

I think Shogun is pretty broken also, the question is who is more brokener?

riffmongous · 31-07-2015 11:25am

jarain wrote: »

Ronda's leg movement is unreal in that clip, and compare that to Correia's which is non existent!!!
This is done after the first clinch I think.

They are different throws though, Ronda's is a harai goshi, while Correia's looks more like the hip toss you'd see wrestling, maybe a bad form o goshi from judo

redmicky · 31-07-2015 11:46am

Correia via KO/TKO

Spoiler: Rousey walks forward eats a few jabs, grabs Correia and throws her to the ground, slaps on a arm bar, wins fight, 45 seconds tops.

Mellor · 31-07-2015 12:23pm

Rousey via Decision

riffmongous wrote: »

They are different throws though, Ronda's is a harai goshi, while Correia's looks more like the hip toss you'd see wrestling, maybe a bad form o goshi from judo

Yeah two different throws. Ronda's looks more like Osoto Gari (or gake?) to me, she is loading in the direction she is moving and taking out that leg.

Correia's throw is a koshi garuma

weemcd · 31-07-2015 12:56pm

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

Who do you guys think will win Shogun v Nogueira ?

I don't think Shogun has ever lost more than two on the trot. But he is the poster boy for inconsistency.

Looking on paper , Nogueira has had more success over the last few years. But Shogun has faced tougher opposition in most cases, but if memory serves me right he was soundly beaten in almost all the fights he has lost in the last couple years save the Henderson fight. (I could be wrong on that.)

Going back if memory serves me correctly Shogun gave Gus a great fight, got caught being slopoy versus Sonnen, looked great against TeHuna, was doing great against Hendo in the second fight and almost had Hendo put away until Hendo hit him with his right hand of death. He was awful versus OSP. His recent record probably looks a little worse than it is but I think as long as he can let his hands go he should ko Nog.

riffmongous · 31-07-2015 1:10pm

Mellor wrote: »

Yeah two different throws. Ronda's looks more like Osoto Gari (or gake?) to me, she is loading in the direction she is moving and taking out that leg.

Correia's throw is a koshi garuma

Yeah I think you're right, she does it with such force I thought it must be a hip throw. I remember her explaining it from a few years ago and always thought it was a nice little vid

http://www.sherdog.com/mma-techniques/Ronda-Rouseys-Technique-of-the-Week-Osoto-Throw-39999

All these oshi's and goshi's confuse me, I'm just going to stick with hiptoss in future :pac:

clever user name · 31-07-2015 2:49pm

Rousey via Decision

Ronda wins this anyway she pleases.

ASOT · 31-07-2015 10:38pm

Rousey via Decision

Hester the only fighter to miss weight hope he makes it second time around.

Wrongway1985 · 31-07-2015 10:39pm

Correia via KO/TKO

Jaysus Bigfoot looked a wreck at the weigh ins

ASOT · 31-07-2015 10:40pm

Rousey via Decision

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Jaysus Bigfoot looked a wreck at the weigh ins

Needs to retired big time he's a mess off TRT

EuskalHerria · 31-07-2015 10:42pm

Correia via KO/TKO

A lot of booing for Correia. Not surprising after her comments but from a Brazilian crowd it was unexpected.

Can't wait for tomorrow night.

Wrongway1985 · 31-07-2015 11:21pm

Correia via KO/TKO

The TUF finales are showing as 4 round fights on UFC fantasy pick thing, this right?

John_D80 · 01-08-2015 12:55am

Rousey via Decision

WAs that Mike Dolce with Ronda at the weigh ins?? Looked very like him if it wasn't.

Wrongway1985 · 01-08-2015 1:01am

Correia via KO/TKO

John_D80 wrote: »

WAs that Mike Dolce with Ronda at the weigh ins?? Looked very like him if it wasn't.

Twas him surely, I thought fighters weighing in were only allowed a plus one but Edmond (Rondas main coach) was on stage too.

John_D80 · 01-08-2015 1:34am

Rousey via Decision

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Twas him surely, I thought fighters weighing in were only allowed a plus one but Edmond (Rondas main coach) was on stage too.

Has she always worked with him?? Never heard her mention him before.

Wrongway1985 · 01-08-2015 1:37am

Correia via KO/TKO

John_D80 wrote: »

Has she always worked with him?? Never heard her mention him before.

Was mentioned on for the 2nd Tate fight alright not too sure before/after then

Paully D · 01-08-2015 1:40am

Correia via KO/TKO

John_D80 wrote: »

Has she always worked with him?? Never heard her mention him before.

Yeah he's been with her for almost 2 years now. They started working together prior to her 2nd fight with Tate in December 2013.

I think I read before that they had been in contact previous to that on and off, but when she went in to train a session for Sonnen on TUF 17, Dolce was helping Chael out too and they became more friendly which strengthened her desire to work with him properly.

Wrongway1985 · 01-08-2015 1:58am

Correia via KO/TKO

Sad to report that where Rondas nickname came from Rowdy has died

...http://www.rollingstone.com/sports/news/rowdy-roddy-piper-dead-at-61-20150731

Outta respect "They Live" must be watched in the upcomig days

:(:(

Mellor · 01-08-2015 2:18am

Rousey via Decision

John_D80 wrote: »

Has she always worked with him?? Never heard her mention him before.

Yeah she works with him. If he looks different it's because he's working on a bulking book at the minute. I met him last month and he looked huge.
He spoke about Ronda a bit, he was saying that because she was under WADA rules in the Olympics, and the IJF for so long that he has always refused an IV in the UFC.

Beersmith · 01-08-2015 6:07am

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

The TUF finales are showing as 4 round fights on UFC fantasy pick thing, this right?

Yeah its right as it will go to a 4th round if a draw after 3.

pauldoo · 01-08-2015 12:08pm

Correia via KO/TKO

Mellor wrote: »

A Rousey throw from embedded. Absolute animal
http://gfycat.com/ImmaculatePaleErne#

Correia by comparison, looks like a baby sitting down.
http://media.giphy.com/media/l41m1sAxn19O4Te7e/giphy.gif

Haha. That's brilliant

UFC 190 - Rousey v Correia

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