Most convincing non Irish actor in an Irish role.

MrWalsh

lawred2 wrote: »

Brad Pitt was a pikey... I'm not sure that there was any mention of nationality

Not that I can remember anyway

The term you used in the post above is offensive and considered to be racist.

Billy86

MrWalsh wrote: »

The term you used in the post above is offensive and considered to be racist.

Well to be fair, 'the pikey' is basically his pseudonym in the role. Haven't seen it in a few years, but if I recall Jason Statham and the rest call him that most of the time when he isn't around.

La_Gordy

NachoBusiness wrote: »

Thought for a thick Glaswegian accented James McAvoy, he did alright in Inside I'm Dancing.

I came onto this thread to post just that. I was convinced he was Irish for a long time.

FloatingVoter

MrWalsh wrote: »

Id like to hear what a traveller thought of it.

Meant to be incomprehensible, anybody who spent time in West Limerick or North Kerry would be well used to deciphering accents like the one Brad Pitt had. He went on a week long bender with members of the travelling community in London to nail it. Not the first and not the last to get wasted in the name of research.

ricero

Vinnie jones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-KCItuNd3o

whereto now

What about Kevin spacey in Ordinary Decent Criminal (least I think thats what it was called ) I don't really remember it been bad so it musta been ok....

Todd Gack

whereto now wrote: »

What about Kevin spacey in Ordinary Decent Criminal (least I think thats what it was called ) I don't really remember it been bad so it musta been ok....

Watch it again, it's brutal

whereto now

Todd Gack wrote: »

Watch it again, it's brutal

Will do....

fryup

it would have to be Trevor Howard as the priest in Ryan's Daughter, played it to a tee

MrWalsh

Billy86 wrote: »

Well to be fair, 'the pikey' is basically his pseudonym in the role. Haven't seen it in a few years, but if I recall Jason Statham and the rest call him that most of the time when he isn't around.

Yes, as a derogatory term.

The n word might also be used in movies but it doesn't mean we should be using it posting here!

Frank Bullitt

"Excellent! Stephen, is my name"

The accent might be off slightly, but he has the persona down to a T.

nozipcode

Toni Collette - Glassland

trashcan

whereto now wrote: »

What about Kevin spacey in Ordinary Decent Criminal (least I think thats what it was called ) I don't really remember it been bad so it musta been ok....

God no. It's right down there with Tom Cruise in Far and Away. Horrendous.

Daniel Day Lewis in My Left Foot, Name of the Father and The Boxer nailed it I thought. Cate Blanchett was good in Veronica Guerin. I actually didn't think Brad Pitt was too bad in The Devils Own. But for someone who grew up in Ireland, Pierce Brosnan should hang his head in shame for Eibhlin.

darkdubh

whereto now wrote: »

What about Kevin spacey in Ordinary Decent Criminal (least I think thats what it was called ) I don't really remember it been bad so it musta been ok....

Dreadfull film.

BofaDeezNuhtz

Bosco

Billy86

MrWalsh wrote: »

Yes, as a derogatory term.

The n word might also be used in movies but it doesn't mean we should be using it posting here!

Actually you're probably right having read back over it - initially I (mis)read it as 'Bradd Pitt played the pikey' (not a pikey). Funny the difference such a small work can make, eh!

razorblunt

quickbeam wrote: »

McAvoy's missus, Anne-Marie Duff in The Magdelene Sisters was excellent too.



Kelly Macdonald (notoriously for her awful accent in Boardwalk Empire) did a great accent in Intermission.

Good call on Duff, I thought she was Irish for a long time, even when I saw her in Shameless I was thinking "fair play to her for picking up that accent"!!


MacDonald's accent is so grating in BE, it's even more annoying considering she damn near nailed it in Intermission.

Dair76

Another vote for Jon Voight in The General. Superb.

I always think it's more surprising when an American nails the Irish accent, as opposed to a Brit. The British have had Irish tv and radio personalities, neighbours, co-workers, even parents and other family members to listen to for decades... The Americans have the Lucky Charms leprechaun.

NachoBusiness

Ben Schnetzer's northern accent in Pride was excellent. His real accent can be heard here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WFpqwpq1-8

Maggie Smith's accent in The Lonely Passion of Judith Hearne was flawless too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ealgazb5ZU

ohnonotgmail

R P McMurphy wrote: »

Anthony Brophy as coco prunty in the run of the country nailed the long border drawl

Anthony Brophy is irish. Not from the border but still irish.

MattB11

Richard Gere got it spot on as an IRA leprechaun in the Jackal

darkdubh

MattB11 wrote: »

Richard Gere got it spot on as an IRA leprechaun in the Jackal

No he diden't.

Aj Furlong

Dunno if it has been said but Paddy Considine in the move In America was pretty spot on

Right Turn Clyde

I'm only half-joking here, but I nominate Ryan O'Neal as Barry Redmond in Barry Lyndon. Yes, his accent is dodgy, but because of it he seems to be an imposter even in his own country. I never bought into him as an Irishman but it all works in the context of his character.

gungun

This is from Sons of Anarchy season 3 just as a heads up for anyone who hasn't seen it, and I know this is for good Irish accents, but I just have to post this, it's too bad to not see it.

Titus Welliver you absolute clown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVIkgK6eyn0

feargale

I won't get carried away by this until I see Meryl Streep playing Peig.

ohnonotgmail

Right Turn Clyde wrote: »

I'm only half-joking here, but I nominate Ryan O'Neal as Barry Redmond in Barry Lyndon. Yes, his accent is dodgy, but because of it he seems to be an imposter even in his own country. I never bought into him as an Irishman but it all works in the context of his character.

i honestly cant remember what his accent is like in Barry Lyndon. I shall have to watch it again to confirm. how terrible.

Billy86

gungun wrote: »

Titus Welliver you absolute clown

That actually made me stop watching the show, dead in it's tracks. And I really liked it up until that point, and would usually class that as a stupid reason to stop watching something... but oh my god, I don't think I've seen anything like that in a loooong time.

I don't know what was more annoying - the "all Irish people are cultist levels of religious" stereotypes, the horrific accents, the cringeworthy names (Jimmy O'Phelan? Aahhh sure yeah, he's good mates with Paddy O'McMurphy after all), or the "everyone speak US American!" dialogue. Because everyone up around Belfast refers to their missus as their "old lady" don't you know!

Really makes you wonder how inaccurate the rest of the show was too, in terms of how they represented different groups. Because that was even past "so bad it's funny" territory.

pickarooney

That's almost as bad as Timothy V Murphy's Russian accent in True Detective. Almost.

frostyjacks

When I first saw In the Name of the Father, I was convinced Pete Postlethwaite was Irish, and that he was putting on accents in other films. This was in the days before Google.

I'd be a bit more forgiving towards American actors putting on the accent, as it's a little easier for Scottish or English actors. Brad Pitt was decent enough with the Cookstown twang in the Devil's Own.

Aimeee

feargale wrote: »

I won't get carried away by this until I see Meryl Streep playing Peig.

Now that would be interesting. Meryl could pull it off I reckon. She can do anything.
Long time since I've seen it now but i think her accent was ok in Dancing at Lughnasa? Don't know if mentioned already.
Also, again long time since I've seen it, but how was Julia Roberts in Michael Colins?

check_six

Aimeee wrote: »

Also, again long time since I've seen it, but how was Julia Roberts in Michael Colins?

Full on "Tooraloora Begorrah!"

Dire.

baron von something

I remember quite enjoying Jim Broadbent's accent in Perriers Bounty. Or maybe I just liked the acting. One or the other

razorblunt

Billy86 wrote: »

That actually made me stop watching the show, dead in it's tracks. And I really liked it up until that point, and would usually class that as a stupid reason to stop watching something... but oh my god, I don't think I've seen anything like that in a loooong time.

I don't know what was more annoying - the "all Irish people are cultist levels of religious" stereotypes, the horrific accents, the cringeworthy names (Jimmy O'Phelan? Aahhh sure yeah, he's good mates with Paddy O'McMurphy after all), or the "everyone speak US American!" dialogue. Because everyone up around Belfast refers to their missus as their "old lady" don't you know!

Really makes you wonder how inaccurate the rest of the show was too, in terms of how they represented different groups. Because that was even past "so bad it's funny" territory.

How they figured Titus would pass off as even irish looking I don't know.
I'm only on season 2 of SoA but I'm not sold on it, completely over-rated so far:
- Humman's acting is awful, he seems to be trying to let his gatch do most of the walking in some seasons
- The mother's hushed whispery tones
- The Sergeant at Arms "wisecracks"
- Stormtrooper esque shooting

Sam Kade

dirkmeister wrote: »

I loved John Hurt as The Bird O'Donnell.

First person that came into my mind after reading the thread title

Pat_custard

Brad Pitt in The Devils Own. He does a pretty good Northern accent and it's a decent film as well.

As Turkish says in Snatch "it's not quite Irish, it's not quite English, it's just.. Pikey"

Celly Smunt

razorblunt wrote: »

How they figured Titus would pass off as even irish looking I don't know.
I'm only on season 2 of SoA but I'm not sold on it, completely over-rated so far:
- Humman's acting is awful, he seems to be trying to let his gatch do most of the walking in some seasons
- The mother's hushed whispery tones
- The Sergeant at Arms "wisecracks"
- Stormtrooper esque shooting

Don't forget how they never lose and are never held accountable for anything. Season upon season of the most unbelievable dribble.

Elmo

Aimeee wrote: »

Now that would be interesting. Meryl could pull it off I reckon. She can do anything.
Long time since I've seen it now but i think her accent was ok in Dancing at Lughnasa? Don't know if mentioned already.

F Meryl Fing Streep. Glenn Close as Albert Nobbs. Meryl Street always taking Glenn Close's talent as her own

darkdubh

Elmo wrote: »

F Meryl Fing Streep. Glenn Close as Albert Nobbs. Meryl Street always taking Glenn Close's talent as her own

Glen Close dosen't speak in an Irish accent in Albert Nobbs,the character is English.

JP Liz V1

darkdubh wrote: »

Glen Close dosen't speak in an Irish accent in Albert Nobbs,the character is English.

I thought Janet McTeer faired well in Albert Nobbs

Eugene Norman

Eugene Norman wrote: »

Not a movie but Coogan in Moone Boy is spot on.

Dars more ta Oirland daaan dis!

jonski

Donal Logue as Brendan Donavan in Copper, I remember at the time thinking it was a decent Kerry accent .

darkdubh

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I thought Janet McTeer faired well in Albert Nobbs

More than can be said for Mia Wasikowska.Her character was supposed to be from County Cork and she sounded like she was doing a bad impression of a Dublin accent.

dirkmeister

Sam Kade wrote: »

First person that came into my mind after reading the thread title

After a night out in college that film was essential viewing

The amount of quotes we got from Bird alone was enormous.