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C0N0R

visatorro wrote: »

Highly bred hi yielding cows going north for 2500ish, fresh calved. If that's any use.

Where's this happening??

GrasstoMilk

https://www.donedeal.ie/dairycattle-for-sale/herd-for-sale-145-cows/13146390

Mooooo

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/dairycattle-for-sale/herd-for-sale-145-cows/13146390

You'd think they are limiting purchasers and return be selling only as one lot?

whelan2

Mooooo wrote: »

You'd think they are limiting purchasers and return be selling only as one lot?

Maybe the owner doesnt want to split them up, think that ad has been bumped a few times

Mooooo

whelan2 wrote: »

Mooooo wrote: »

You'd think they are limiting purchasers and return be selling only as one lot?

Maybe the owner doesnt want to split them up, think that ad has been bumped a few times

Just wondering as to the reasoning. I know with some dispersals any cows with any issues would be sold prior to sales in order to maximise return on the rest of the cows. Maybe he is looking to get all cows including the lower yielders or whatever off together instead of offloading them seperate

freedominacup

leg wax wrote: »

legs bows his head in frustration ,and tries not to hit close account button, i dont give a **** about eggs 20 years ago or here say........ just forget it ,thanks everyone.

Sorry for derailing your question legs. I only brought up the embryo story to emphasise the point that lisduff expect big prices and have been achieving this for years.

freedominacup

We replaced the second most important machine in the farm yesterday. Been looking for the right sized machine in good enough order for a while. New to us diet feeder. We have some very small passages and tight yards so needed a smallish machine. It's only for a couple of years as there will be serious renovations done in the next year or two. If I had the price of what went through the old machine I could probably retire now.

whelan2

freedominacup wrote: »

We replaced the second most important machine in the farm yesterday. Been looking for the right sized machine in good enough order for a while. New to us diet feeder. We have some very small passages and tight yards so needed a smallish machine. It's only for a couple of years as there will be serious renovations done in the next year or two. If I had the price of what went through the old machine I could probably retire now.

What make did you go for?

Dawggone

freedominacup wrote: »

We replaced the second most important machine in the farm yesterday. Been looking for the right sized machine in good enough order for a while. New to us diet feeder. We have some very small passages and tight yards so needed a smallish machine. It's only for a couple of years as there will be serious renovations done in the next year or two. If I had the price of what went through the old machine I could probably retire now.

What did you buy?

Mooooo

Tub or paddle. Have a keenan 100 here on its last legs. Will have to get thru this year but may look ahead for next year

freedominacup

Dawggone wrote: »

What did you buy?

Stuck with what we know. Keenan.

whelan2

freedominacup wrote: »

Stuck with what we know. Keenan.

What size?

freedominacup

whelan2 wrote: »

What size?

100. A lot of 140s and upwards. Too big for us atm.

Mooooo

freedominacup wrote: »

whelan2 wrote: »

What size?

100. A lot of 140s and upwards. Too big for us atm.

You buy refurbished from them or sec hand elsewhere?

Dawggone

freedominacup wrote: »

Stuck with what we know. Keenan.

Was looking at them at local harvest show last weekend. They look soft. I wouldn't be dropping a complete round bale into them. Tubs look robust.

Anyhow well wear!

freedominacup

Dawggone wrote: »

Was looking at them at local harvest show last weekend. They look soft. I wouldn't be dropping a complete round bale into them. Tubs look robust.

Anyhow well wear!

Not a machine for bales no doubt. Will be looking seriously at the tubs when we upgrade. Stopgap measure. We wouldn't know what to look for with other makes so as I said stuck to what we know going second hand. The paddles are very easily driven. I think Keenan didn't really grasp that a lot of their customers had grown herdsize dramatically and having a higher hp tractor available wasn't the same issue it had been when they started with the feeders first.

Buford T. Justice XIX

freedominacup wrote: »

Not a machine for bales no doubt. Will be looking seriously at the tubs when we upgrade. Stopgap measure. We wouldn't know what to look for with other makes so as I said stuck to what we know going second hand. The paddles are very easily driven. I think Keenan didn't really grasp that a lot of their customers had grown herdsize dramatically and having a higher hp tractor available wasn't the same issue it had been when they started with the feeders first.

They were trying to sell me a 100 a few years ago and assured me that a 65hp tractor could drive it. I'm still not sure it actually would be able to do it.

Oh, I didn't buy it anyway, there are a good few things on the list that would have a higher return for me than a diet feeder atm.

GrasstoMilk

Quick question

Is planning permission required for knocking an entrance into a field off a public road?

mahoney_j

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Quick question

Is planning permission required for knocking an entrance into a field off a public road?

Yes

Buford T. Justice XIX

There's some amount of, ah, granlime and, ah, potassium going out round here today :pac:

freedominacup

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

They were trying to sell me a 100 a few years ago and assured me that a 65hp tractor could drive it. I'm still not sure it actually would be able to do it.

Oh, I didn't buy it anyway, there are a good few things on the list that would have a higher return for me than a diet feeder atm.

I worked a Keenan 100 on a 4600 ford years ago. They can be geared for smaller tractors when ordering new.

Dawggone

freedominacup wrote: »

I used a ford 4600 on a Keenan 100 years ago. They can be geared for smaller tractors when ordering new.

You/Keenan were waaay ahead of the game 100yrs ago! (You're a good age now)


I've a Sgaraboldi and can drop a full bale into it, but it needs at least 125hp...

freedominacup

Dawggone wrote: »

You/Keenan were waaay ahead of the game 100yrs ago! (You're a good age now)


I've a Sgaraboldi and can drop a full bale into it, but it needs at least 125hp...

Well fckn spotted.

fepper

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Quick question
Is planning permission required for knocking an entrance into a field off a public road?[/QUOTE
If it is a local road of a certain width across I don't think you need pp. say they was a small opening there but are widening it if they ask

farmerjj

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Quick question

Is planning permission required for knocking an entrance into a field off a public road?

Cant remember the width but if its a v small local road you don't but most roads will need planning.

Buford T. Justice XIX

I just got my latest tbc back at 8. Funny thing, I'm in the middle of an acid and caustic hot wash daily because there were ripples of gunk on the jars with one in particular being very bad. I should have checked more often, tbh.

And the funny thing is my tbc is less now than when I last checked the jars and they were clean.

freedominacup

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

I just got my latest tbc back at 8. Funny thing, I'm in the middle of an acid and caustic hot wash daily because there were ripples of gunk on the jars with one in particular being very bad. I should have checked more often, tbh.

And the funny thing is my tbc is less now than when I last checked the jars and they were clean.

It's wan o' dem tings.

Keepgrowing

Does anyone know of an engineering company making adjustable tractor/loader mounted yard scrapers?

Came across one in UK earlier in the year that can be hydraulically adjusted to 12'.

Mooooo

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Does anyone know of an engineering company making adjustable tractor/loader mounted yard scrapers?

Came across one in UK earlier in the year that can be hydraulically adjusted to 12'.

Local fabricator/ welder throw one together for ya?

whelan2

freedominacup wrote: »

It's wan o' dem tings.

When I was on holidays the lad that was milking sent me a text to say he let a load of water into the milk tank. Was waiting for a text from glanbia but the milk went for disease screening that day

Buford T. Justice XIX

whelan2 wrote: »

When I was on holidays the lad that was milking sent me a text to say he let a load of water into the milk tank. Was waiting for a text from glanbia but the milk went for disease screening that day

And how much did the water make, including 2c top up and vat?:pac:

Keepgrowing

Mooooo wrote: »

Local fabricator/ welder throw one together for ya?

I have a guy for that but would buy off the shelf just to avoid the bollixology

pedigree 6

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Does anyone know of an engineering company making adjustable tractor/loader mounted yard scrapers?

Came across one in UK earlier in the year that can be hydraulically adjusted to 12'.

Little bit different to the one you have a pic of.
But my god the price.:eek:
https://www.kitt.eu.com/product/m7000-adjustable-manure-scraper

They shouldn't really be that hard to make though.

freedominacup

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Does anyone know of an engineering company making adjustable tractor/loader mounted yard scrapers?

Came across one in UK earlier in the year that can be hydraulically adjusted to 12'.

I think I saw an ad for those in fw the last time I bought it. They had euro prices incl shipping. Iirc.

Waffletraktor

freedominacup wrote: »

I think I saw an ad for those in fw the last time I bought it. They had euro prices incl shipping. Iirc.

There is a design that has the scraper mounted on a shaft in 2 elongated holes verticaly on a frame, so you pick it up and can flick it over push it down and locks tight on its self on the frame on the ground. Be easy to make up one side with a ram and 2 hinge like original pic.

Keepgrowing

Waffletraktor wrote: »

There is a design that has the scraper mounted on a shaft in 2 elongated holes verticaly on a frame, so you pick it up and can flick it over push it down and locks tight on its self on the frame on the ground. Be easy to make up one side with a ram and 2 hinge like original pic.

That's the one

Waffletraktor

Keepgrowing wrote: »

That's the one

Well done on being able to hopefully make some sort of sense of the description, normally have to draw pictures :pac:.

Ive seen it a few times as grazier here has 2, though not the vari-widt addition. Will try get a brand to replicate or even just a design style.

Dawggone

First of the non irrigated maize results back.

15.5 t Dm/ha.

Dm 30.3%
Energy 31.7%
Protein 6.9%
Sugars 1.5%

Sugars disappointingly high and protein low, but happy enough for the year that's in it.

freedominacup

Dawggone wrote: »

First of the non irrigated maize results back.

15.5 t Dm/ha.

Dm 30.3%
Energy 31.7%
Protein 6.9%
Sugars 1.5%

Sugars disappointingly high and protein low, but happy enough for the year that's in it.

It'll be interesting to see if your irrigation efforts have been worth it in a few weeks.

Dawggone

freedominacup wrote: »

It'll be interesting to see if your irrigation efforts have been worth it in a few weeks.

It will.
Huge maize crop. Expecting well over 22tDM/ha. Severe drought since mid June so I'm pleasantly surprised with non irrigated results.

That's an analysis that a farmer dropped in for invoicing.

Waffletraktor

Keepgrowing wrote: »

That's the one

Im sure no copyright infringements will happen now.
http://www.albutt.com/yardscraper.html

Dawggone

Anyone use young, unproven but genomic tested Bulls?

I used a few a couple of years ago. They are now calving down. One of them would lie down in the parlor rather than be milked...I'd never seen that before so persisted for a week. Happy meal.
Another calved Thur and is at the same craic. Happy meal tomorrow morning. Same fecking sire!!
Both heifers out of good producing, docile cows.
An ounce of breeding...

Timmaay

Stan uses a fair few of them and gets on well enough I think? The only particular bad unproven bull I've used here the last few years is KSK, utterly crap milker and small cows so won't even make much as culls. And I got 9 more of them coming into the parlour next spring ugh.

Mooooo

Timmaay wrote: »

Stan uses a fair few of them and gets on well enough I think? The only particular bad unproven bull I've used here the last few years is KSK, utterly crap milker and small cows so won't even make much as culls. And I got 9 more of them coming into the parlour next spring ugh.

Feck I've a shot of heifers off him coming in. I see the new aut catalogue is out for pg they have dropped em all by the 71. Any other change is ti do with the normal runs

freedominacup

Dawggone wrote: »

Anyone use young, unproven but genomic tested Bulls?

I used a few a couple of years ago. They are now calving down. One of them would lie down in the parlor rather than be milked...I'd never seen that before so persisted for a week. Happy meal.
Another calved Thur and is at the same craic. Happy meal tomorrow morning. Same fecking sire!!
Both heifers out of good producing, docile cows.
An ounce of breeding...

But they are "proven" dawg. Genomically provern. This is still just using extremely complicated algorithms for a best guess result. This opinion is from someone who was in on the ground floor of quantitative genetics long before the processing power was freely available to do the maths quickly.

Mooooo

Dawggone wrote: »

Anyone use young, unproven but genomic tested Bulls?

I used a few a couple of years ago. They are now calving down. One of them would lie down in the parlor rather than be milked...I'd never seen that before so persisted for a week. Happy meal.
Another calved Thur and is at the same craic. Happy meal tomorrow morning. Same fecking sire!!
Both heifers out of good producing, docile cows.
An ounce of breeding...

How many bulls did you use dawg. In order to protect against the duds the advice is to use a panel of 5 minimum,

freedominacup

Mooooo wrote: »

How many bulls did you use dawg. In order to protect against the duds the advice is to use a panel of 5 minimum,

Which was the exact same advice they always gave when using test bulls. In fact they used to insist on it if you were participating in the testing programmes, partly to offset risks and partly to get the bulls with less impressive bloodlines tested.

Mooooo

freedominacup wrote: »

Mooooo wrote: »

How many bulls did you use dawg. In order to protect against the duds the advice is to use a panel of 5 minimum,

Which was the exact same advice they always gave when using test bulls. In fact they used to insist on it if you were participating in the testing programmes, partly to offset risks and partly to get the bulls with less impressive bloodlines tested.

Would you be off the opinion to leave them as test bull packs so? It does annoy me them charging 16 to 20 quid for genomic bulls when test bulls with near on the exact same reliability come in packs for 6.50.... th I've used a lot of genomic bulls and I have yet to come across and animal I could say is better by far than what went before her. But look there have been way too many variables here to judge the whole lot that way

freedominacup

Mooooo wrote: »

Would you be off the opinion to leave them as test bull packs so? It does annoy me them charging 16 to 20 quid for genomic bulls when test bulls with near on the exact same reliability come in packs for 6.50.... th I've used a lot of genomic bulls and I have yet to come across and animal I could say is better by far than what went before her. But look there have been way too many variables here to judge the whole lot that way

Personally I'd be of the opinion to leave them where they are but I won't use a bull without a linear (type) proof.

Keepgrowing

freedominacup wrote: »

Personally I'd be of the opinion to leave them where they are but I won't use a bull without a linear (type) proof.

I will not use a bull that's not daughter proven. Ebi should be a guide not a target.

I've often been ridiculed for my stance