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www.isidewith.com which presidential candidate do you agree with?

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    the term " pro choice " is no less political and loaded than " pro life "

    That's exactly my point. Pro life, pro choice, pro family etc. are all nonsense political terms. Generally groups who class themselves as anything pro-xxxx aren't really pro xxxx, they're anti wyz.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    84% Rand Paul
    82% Ted Cruz

    67% Donald Trump

    23% Hillary Clinton

    overall kind of what I expected.

    Im pretty sure pro choice and decriminalising drugs are the only things that bump my hillary stats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,603 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    84% Rand Paul
    82% Ted Cruz

    67% Donald Trump

    23% Hillary Clinton

    overall kind of what I expected.

    Im pretty sure pro choice and decriminalising drugs are the only things that bump my hillary stats.

    Did you do the test in character Eric?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Akrasia wrote: »
    Did you do the test in character Eric?

    I think this point really has to be addressed , people on the left look at the republicans/conservatives/right and think 'jaysus how could they think like this , they must be trolling/ mental / uninformed' and always like to assume any other possible reason except an informed rational choice for the answers they give.

    People on the right basically feel the same way about the left. You look at the likes of ted cruz or rand paul and ask yourself how could anyone possibly vote for them, thats the way I look at hillary clinton.

    neither of us are right or wrong , its a difference of opinion. Some of the sharpest minds in the world vote right and some others vote left. The 'college educated intellectuals always vote left' paradigm is incorrect.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I think this point really has to be addressed , people on the left look at the republicans/conservatives/right and think 'jaysus how could they think like this , they must be trolling/ mental / uninformed' and always like to assume any other possible reason except an informed rational choice for the answers they give.

    You realise you just objected to a generalisation by generalising about everyone on the left?

    People on the right basically feel the same way about the left. You look at the likes of ted cruz or rand paul and ask yourself how could anyone possibly vote for them, thats the way I look at hillary clinton.

    neither of us are right or wrong , its a difference of opinion. Some of the sharpest minds in the world vote right and some others vote left. The 'college educated intellectuals always vote left' paradigm is incorrect.

    Au contraire. There is most definitely a right and wrong to the right/left debate. There also many shades of grey in
    Between.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Brian? wrote: »
    You realise you just objected to a generalisation by generalising about everyone on the left?



    Au contraire. There is most definitely a right and wrong to the right/left debate. There also many shades of grey in
    Between.

    depending on where you stand , you can't say a side of such an opinion driven scale is wrong and be looking at it truly objectively.

    generalisations are a reality , we can't break down everything individually. the right and left are in themselves massive generalisations , I would be economically conservative yet support abortion rights and legalising cannabis , which are traditionally left values, I however would still call myself right wing as its the generalisation that fits most of my views.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,603 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    depending on where you stand , you can't say a side of such an opinion driven scale is wrong and be looking at it truly objectively.

    generalisations are a reality , we can't break down everything individually. the right and left are in themselves massive generalisations , I would be economically conservative yet support abortion rights and legalising cannabis , which are traditionally left values, I however would still call myself right wing as its the generalisation that fits most of my views.

    Well, there are some parts of the debate where there clearly is a right and wrong position

    1. Global warming and evolution (and science denialism in general) - the fringe politicians on the right are completely ignorant of scientific facts

    2. Religion - A significant part of the republican platform is little more than pandering to the evangelical churches and so they take ridiculous stances on many issues so as not to offend their ridiculous base.

    Rick Santorum has come out opposing contraception. If there was ever a subject where you can say this is simply wrong, then opposing contraception is it.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    depending on where you stand , you can't say a side of such an opinion driven scale is wrong and be looking at it truly objectively.

    I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here.

    generalisations are a reality , we can't break down everything individually. the right and left are in themselves massive generalisations , I would be economically conservative yet support abortion rights and legalising cannabis , which are traditionally left values, I however would still call myself right wing as its the generalisation that fits most of my views.

    I've no problems with some generalisations. I just found it funny you were objecting to a generalisation of the right by generalising the left.

    Not to be too pedantic or a "grammar Nazi" but it really hurts my brain to read your posts, beginning sentences with capital letters is actually quite important.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Akrasia wrote: »
    Well, there are some parts of the debate where there clearly is a right and wrong position

    1. Global warming and evolution (and science denialism in general) - the fringe politicians on the right are completely ignorant of scientific facts

    2. Religion - A significant part of the republican platform is little more than pandering to the evangelical churches and so they take ridiculous stances on many issues so as not to offend their ridiculous base.

    Rick Santorum has come out opposing contraception. If there was ever a subject where you can say this is simply wrong, then opposing contraception is it.

    The left has its share of nuts too. American politics has always been laced with religion , there was an article in the economist before about how an athiest president is still americas last big presidential taboo. When you have the loud voices of the likes of Mitt Romney the morman and other bible beaters it skews the agenda. Id choose an athiest candidate in a heartbeat if they stacked up well but the reality is both sides of the aisle have to pander to whatever flavour of christianity theyre part of to get anywhere. Sure kennedy was a catholic and we all know the damage that religion did, its just left out of the fond memory of him because the idea that being god fearing is exclusive to the right


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    depending on where you stand , you can't say a side of such an opinion driven scale is wrong and be looking at it truly objectively.

    generalisations are a reality , we can't break down everything individually. the right and left are in themselves massive generalisations , I would be economically conservative yet support abortion rights and legalising cannabis , which are traditionally left values, I however would still call myself right wing as its the generalisation that fits most of my views.

    You are not right wing. You are a libertarian contrarian.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    You are not right wing.

    Thats actually the first time thats ever been said to me ha, the very nature of libertarianism makes me far right economically though


  • Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭sinead88


    I got Bernie Sanders on 95%. That doesn't come as a surprise as I've been following it quite closely and he's by far my favourite. His recent polling in Iowa and New Hampshire shows him gaining on Hilary fairly rapidly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    Dunno how I missed this thread. Anyway Sanders at 87% is unsurprising, as is Hillary at 84%. I agree with a lot of the social policies with Republicans so that's probably why Huckabee was at 55%.

    I don't have a vote anyway so it doesn't really matter. Good website though; I wish anyone who votes would even try it just to see where they are and stop any bias preferences for candidates just because they like them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭ronivek


    Interesting site; although I felt like I didn't really know enough about many of the issues.

    Donald Trump @ 25% and Rick Santorum @ 23%; I really don't like either of them much so that's good.

    Bernie Sanders @ 84% and Hillary Clinton at 79%; not too surprised as I've broadly agreed with most of the quotes I've seen attributed to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭ZeitgeistGlee


    Sander, Clinton and O'Malley were my Top 3, looking through it though some of the stuff we "side on" is quite different within the sphere of a yes or no. O'Malley also seems to have no available stance on quite a few issues.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    Some of the similar answers are a bit off. For supporting same sex marriage and not subsiding illegal immigrants health care it says making marriage a religious thing and the state should stay out of healthcare are similar.

    84% Bernie, 74% Clinton. Seems to be the common top 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    I'm an American in despair.


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