Republic of Ireland Team Talk/News/Rumours 2017

Worztron

Wilberto wrote: »

Daryl Horgan comes on with Preston 2-0 down at Villa, and they end up drawing 2-2.

Good man Daryl.

GLaDOS

Manning hopeful of getting an Ireland call up at some point.

Also speaks positively of the LOI as a stepping stone.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2017/0121/846784-manning-eyeing-ireland-future-while-impressing-qpr/

That_Guy

Hourihane just scored a belter of a free kick.

Gael85

How much was transfer fee for Ryan Manning when QPR signed him from Galway Utd? Having a great month.

Rossi IRL

Robbie Keane on Goals on Sunday right now

dr.kenneth noisewater

Rossi IRL wrote:

Robbie Keane on Goals on Sunday right now

Must be living in sky studios this wkd

Father Hernandez

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

Must be living in sky studios this wkd

Boyhood dream fulfilled :pac:

johnnyryan89

Morrison J wrote: »

Its ridiculous how Hourihane still hasn't got a cap yet. He's different class. No doubt it'll come now he's getting his move to Villa but really we should judge players on ability and not the size of the club they play at. Playing Stephen Quinn over him against Oman was senseless.

Some people will tell you he's not experienced enough or as you said might not be at that big a club but fail to realise that somebodies not gonna get experience unless he's given the chance at international level and by playing at international level he might get a move to a bigger club or a club whose pushing for promotion as Villa themselves are stuck mid table anif Bruce can't turn things around for them gonna be a tough few years stuck in the championship.

Another one you'll hear is it's only league one or league of Ireland but the same applies, the player picks up experience at international level and increases his chances of getting a move to England and increases the profile of the league and for players in league one it might get them a move to a championship club etc etc.

Mantis Toboggan

The problem for hourihane is that we have an abundance of central midfielders with most of them being in the squad for the last few years and have performed well. Our last 4 games have all been qualifiers and ideally you want to bring new players in during friendlies. I've no doubt he'll be in the squad for the Wales/Iceland game hopefully getting some game time against Iceland.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Morrison J wrote: »

Its ridiculous how Hourihane still hasn't got a cap yet. He's different class. No doubt it'll come now he's getting his move to Villa but really we should judge players on ability and not the size of the club they play at. Playing Stephen Quinn over him against Oman was senseless.

He's only been playing in the championship half a season and we played our last game when he'd only had a couple of months of championship experience.I don't think there is anything ridiculous about a player not being called up for world cup qualifiers on the basis of such a small sample size of performances at a decent level. League 1 is below the standard you'd want for an international player.I would think he'll almost certainly get called up for the next squad.

noodler

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

He's only been playing in the championship half a season and we played our last game when he'd only had a couple of months of championship experience.I don't think there is anything ridiculous about a player not being called up for world cup qualifiers on the basis of such a small sample size of performances at a decent level. League 1 is below the standard you'd want for an international player.I would think he'll almost certainly get called up for the next squad.

Exactly!

Jesus's Christmas, there hasn't been an international squad announced since mid Oct which happens to have conincided with his best form.

Christ some ppl exaggerate.

johnnyryan89

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

He's only been playing in the championship half a season and we played our last game when he'd only had a couple of months of championship experience.I don't think there is anything ridiculous about a player not being called up for world cup qualifiers on the basis of such a small sample size of performances at a decent level. League 1 is below the standard you'd want for an international player.I would think he'll almost certainly get called up for the next squad.

Funny you mention it but both Wales and Northen Ireland included players in their squads who played in league one or below. Wales number was probably low but Northen Ireland included 5 or 6 and done just as good as Ireland even progressing from a tougher group.

Dirty Dingus McGee

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

Funny you mention it but both Wales and Northen Ireland included players in their squads who played in league one or below. Wales number was probably low but Northen Ireland included 5 or 6 and done just as good as Ireland even progressing from a tougher group.

But they probably don't have as good a squad as Ireland and we have a pretty decent selection of players in midfield so it's not as if it's a complete scandal he wasn't picked for the first 2 squads of the campaign

The Talking Bread

Tyson Fury wrote: »

The problem for hourihane is that we have an abundance of central midfielders with most of them being in the squad for the last few years and have performed well. Our last 4 games have all been qualifiers and ideally you want to bring new players in during friendlies. I've no doubt he'll be in the squad for the Wales/Iceland game hopefully getting some game time against Iceland.

You can't just throw unproven international players into the mix against Oman though either. Never take them for granted.

johnnyryan89

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

But they probably don't have as good a squad as Ireland and we have a pretty decent selection of players in midfield so it's not as if it's a complete scandal he wasn't picked for the first 2 squads of the campaign

Not saying it's a scandal he's not being picked just pointing out that some players playing in the lower leagues have played international football so shouldnt dismiss certain players just because they are in league one.

I said earlier if you take the league one player and give him a shot then what's to say he won't get a move to team in a higher league. Not saying we should have a team full of league one and non capped players but hopefully for the next squad we get a few lads who haven't been capped yet especially for the friendly against Iceland.

Morrison J

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

He's only been playing in the championship half a season and we played our last game when he'd only had a couple of months of championship experience.I don't think there is anything ridiculous about a player not being called up for world cup qualifiers on the basis of such a small sample size of performances at a decent level. League 1 is below the standard you'd want for an international player.I would think he'll almost certainly get called up for the next squad.

Choosing to play Stephen Quinn instead of him against Oman was ridiculous imo. Learnt absolutely nothing from it.

I don't agree with the thinking that we don't look at League 1 players because it's a low level either. Standard is a million times higher that the League of Ireland for a start and it should be about the players ability not the club or level he plays at anyway.

The Talking Bread

Morrison J wrote: »

Choosing to play Stephen Quinn instead of him against Oman was ridiculous imo. Learnt absolutely nothing from it.

I don't agree with the thinking that we don't look at League 1 players because it's a low level either. Standard is a million times higher that the League of Ireland for a start and it should be about the players ability not the club or level he plays at anyway.

Well Stephen Quinn deserves game time also. Needs it as well. Quinn is worthy of his squad placing and it is clear MON wants him around

Morrison J

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Well Stephen Quinn deserves game time also. Needs it as well. Quinn is worthy of his squad placing and it is clear MON wants him around

Quinn is doing very little at club level to say he deserves game time. Hourihane is the superior player and should've played in that game for sure imo. We know what Quinn offers at this stage.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Morrison J wrote: »

Choosing to play Stephen Quinn instead of him against Oman was ridiculous imo. Learnt absolutely nothing from it.

I don't agree with the thinking that we don't look at League 1 players because it's a low level either. Standard is a million times higher that the League of Ireland for a start and it should be about the players ability not the club or level he plays at anyway.

But you can't properly judge a players ability if they haven't played at a high enough level, lots of players have looked like world beaters at lower levels only to be found out when they make the step up.

I'd say Horgan was picked purely because of his form in Europe, if he hadn't played so well in europe I doubt he would have been in the squad.

The Talking Bread

Morrison J wrote: »

Quinn is doing very little at club level to say he deserves game time. Hourihane is the superior player and should've played in that game for sure imo. We know what Quinn offers at this stage.

Not much he can do when he has been out injured for months to be fair.

Bandage

We have very little to be concerned about if Conor Hourihnane not being selected for the Oman friendly back in August, before he'd shown any sustained form in the English Championship, is a bone of contention for some.

The Talking Bread

Not starting to look good re Hogan, I must say. Transfer to West Ham looks more or less a formality so doubt he is going to "distract " himself with international football at the minute. Some few months for him though, on another note

johnnyryan89

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Not starting to look good re Hogan, I must say. Transfer to West Ham looks more or less a formality so doubt he is going to "distract " himself with international football at the minute. Some few months for him though, on another note

Not looking good for Brentford, while they will get a good fee for him it's gonna be hard to replace the goals he provides at this stage in the season.

yabadabado

A really good move for Hogan.Hopefully he does declare for us but not too optimistic at this stage.

The Talking Bread

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Not starting to look good re Hogan, I must say. Transfer to West Ham looks more or less a formality so doubt he is going to "distract " himself with international football at the minute. Some few months for him though, on another note

Not looking good for Brentford, while they will get a good fee for him it's gonna be hard to replace the goals he provides at this stage in the season.

Ah, don't know about that. Over 13 million is a monster fee for a club like them. They will be sad to let him go but crazy to reject that sort of money. At the end of the day, it's not as if they are gone down to 10 men. Could replace him with a half decent championship striker and build from there. Medium to long term, they have come out well.

I don't think he justices the price just yet but a team like WH have money to burn so an extra 3 or 4 million is natural.

keeponhurling

yabadabado wrote: »

A really good move for Hogan.Hopefully he does declare for us but not too optimistic at this stage.

Agent Randalph can be in his ear on a daily basis, no worries

yabadabado

Benham their owner is an interesting character and the systems he has in place with Brentford (and Midtjylland) they will have some replacement in asap.

ahlookit

No pressure on Hogan at West Ham ... just the 32 strikers signed in 7 years :eek:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/jan/17/west-ham-strikers-david-sullivan-gold-simone-zaza-scott-hogan

blinding

ahlookit wrote: »

No pressure on Hogan at West Ham ... just the 32 strikers signed in 7 years :eek:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/jan/17/west-ham-strikers-david-sullivan-gold-simone-zaza-scott-hogan

I suppose an Irishman might just be the fellow to dig you out of a hole ........;)

weldoninhio

I reckon he'll flop in the Prem, move back to the Championship and suddenly realise how much he loves Ireland and can't wait to pledge allegiance to us.

Wilberto

blinding wrote: »

I suppose an Irishman might just be the fellow to dig you out of a hole ........;)

Yup....and I heard Robbie Keane's looking for a new club and all! :pac:

Father Hernandez

Robbie Brady to Crystal Palace, £9 million

Father Hernandez

Father Hernandez wrote: »

Robbie Brady to Crystal Palace, £9 million

Been discussing this in the transfer thread. I'm not that happy about it particularly if Palace get relegated again

Mr.Nice Guy

Nice to see Shane Long getting some goals the last few weeks. Seems to be hitting form at the right time from our point of view.

keeponhurling

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Father Hernandez wrote: »

Robbie Brady to Crystal Palace, £9 million

Been discussing this in the transfer thread. I'm not that happy about it particularly if Palace get relegated again

Yet another relegation wouldn't be ideal for him at this stage, he's a fine player.

On another note, he is suspended for the Wales game. Who will take the frees and corners (and penalties!)?

The Talking Bread

keeponhurling wrote: »

Yet another relegation wouldn't be ideal for him at this stage, he's a fine player.

On another note, he is suspended for the Wales game. Who will take the frees and corners (and penalties!)?

Walters will take penalties anyway

The Talking Bread

And Scott Hogan will be on frees

Mr. Guappa

keeponhurling wrote: »

On another note, he is suspended for the Wales game. Who will take the frees and corners (and penalties!)?

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Walters will take penalties anyway

The Talking Bread wrote: »

And Scott Hogan will be on frees

And Conor Hourihane will take the corners.

Mantis Toboggan

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

And Conor Hourihane will take the corners.

And Packie Bonner will take the kick outs..

johnnyryan89

Bring back Rory Delap

Lovely Bloke

How is the UEFA Nations League going to affect the income from the Oman games?

Mr.Nice Guy

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Nice to see Shane Long getting some goals the last few weeks. Seems to be hitting form at the right time from our point of view.

Just watched the goal again
He ran the whole pitch in a matter of seconds.
Has lighting pace

dr.kenneth noisewater

U21 Euros draw made this morning, in group 5.
Germany
Israel
Norway
Rep. of Ireland
Azerbaijan
Kosovo

Full draw here

Presumably the first time we'll meet Kosovo at any level...

yabadabado

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

U21 Euros draw made this morning, in group 5.
Germany
Israel
Norway
Rep. of Ireland
Azerbaijan
Kosovo

Full draw here

We have some very good U21 players ,it's a pity King is still manager.

yabadabado

Deleted User wrote: »

Presumably the first time we'll meet Kosovo at any level...

Our U16s are playing Kosovo in May.

keeponhurling

yabadabado wrote: »

Our U16s are playing Kosovo in May.

yabadabado

Hourihane transfer to Villa completed.

Very unlikely to be involved in the playoff spots barring a huge upturn in form.

dr.kenneth noisewater

So we're looking at a team like the below then? 4-1-3-2

                 Randolph
Coleman-Clark-Duffy-Ward
                 Whelan
Hendrick-McCarthy-Arter/McClean
                Hoolahan
                Murphy

Mantis Toboggan

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

So we're looking at a team like the below then?
Randolph
Coleman-Clark-Duffy-Ward
Whelan
Hendrick-McCarthy-Arter/McClean
Hoolahan
Murphy

I'd say Long is ahead of Murphy upfront.