Republic of Ireland Team Talk/News/Rumours 2017

Minderbinder

The people so outraged about Hogan committing to Ireland have no place supporting the Ireland team or participating in this thread. It doesn't make any sense. Why would you want anything to do with the team which has for three decades or more accepted players and managers who would rather be in the England setup. Why would anyone that sensitive want to watch the Irish team when you can't get any satisfaction out of it and you can't feel any pride. Or maybe the satisfaction is gained from acting the dick.

weldoninhio

irishman86 wrote: »

The under 21 thing has been answered so i wont even bother
I would have done the same thing in his shoes played less than 20 games in three years international football was the last thing he was thinking about
So yes you have nothing just rambling nonsense
If i was a betting man id guess you were outraged about Grealish choosing to play for England the land of his birth :rolleyes:

You don't have to be a betting man to guess buddy. I guess you learn something every day. With Grealish, i was disappointed the way he dragged it out and didn't think we should have been chasing him once he started humming and hawing over who to play for. I don't care he chose England.

PhilipsR

Minderbinder wrote: »

The people so outraged about Hogan committing to Ireland have no place supporting the Ireland team or participating in this thread. It doesn't make any sense. Why would you want anything to do with the team which has for three decades or more accepted players and managers who would rather be in the England setup. Why would anyone that sensitive want to watch the Irish team when you can't get any satisfaction out of it and you can't feel any pride. Or maybe the satisfaction is gained from acting the dick.

Most people aren't outraged at all. Just merely pointing out that it suited Hogan to use the injuries as an excuse. I don't hold it against him at all and would be delighted if he had a part to play in the qualifiers for the World Cup (preferably a part being a couple of goals).

irishman86

weldoninhio wrote: »

You don't have to be a betting man to guess buddy. I guess you learn something every day. With Grealish, i was disappointed the way he dragged it out and didn't think we should have been chasing him once he started humming and hawing over who to play for. I don't care he chose England.

Why wouldnt we continue to chase him, hes a young lad with options. As for Hogan you have no foundation as shown by your betting man comment, something thats reserved for i have nothing time to unleash the betting man :rolleyes:

weldoninhio

irishman86 wrote: »

Why wouldnt we continue to chase him, hes a young lad with options. As for Hogan you have no foundation as shown by your betting man comment, something thats reserved for i have nothing time to unleash the betting man :rolleyes:

Any chance of that last sentence in english?? I don't speak gibberish. Thanks

irishman86

weldoninhio wrote: »

Any chance of that last sentence in english?? I don't speak gibberish. Thanks

:rolleyes:.........thats all you have done so far buddy, i was trying to put it in your terms
Ill dumb it down a bit, you talk ****e with no foundation

Minderbinder

PhilipsR wrote: »

Minderbinder wrote: »

The people so outraged about Hogan committing to Ireland have no place supporting the Ireland team or participating in this thread. It doesn't make any sense. Why would you want anything to do with the team which has for three decades or more accepted players and managers who would rather be in the England setup. Why would anyone that sensitive want to watch the Irish team when you can't get any satisfaction out of it and you can't feel any pride. Or maybe the satisfaction is gained from acting the dick.

Most people aren't outraged at all. Just merely pointing out that it suited Hogan to use the injuries as an excuse. I don't hold it against him at all and would be delighted if he had a part to play in the qualifiers for the World Cup (preferably a part being a couple of goals).

Then my post doesn't apply to you. I'm referring to the outraged people.

But I would say that while your opinion might be correct, it really isn't worth the amount of discussion this sort of thing gets in here.

Anyone naive enough to assume people are selfless at their core need a wake up call. There isn't one member of the Irish team who wouldn't quit if it somehow meant more money in their pocket. That's why you have players retiring from international football to prolong their professional careers.

As soon as people accept that everyone prioritises themselves things would be a lot more relaxed. Instead you have idiots in this thread (not you) having huge expectations of other people that they wouldn't have for themselves.

johnnyryan89

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jonathan-walters-interview-mum-died-and-the-next-day-i-just-went-back-to-school-vb38vpr2j?shareToken=4d6b34e5797f4dd184b828e308f7a12e

Great interview with Jonathan Walters, up there as my favourite player over the last number of years. Never get less than 100% with Walters even when not a 100% fit himself he still busts his balls for the national team.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jonathan-walters-interview-mum-died-and-the-next-day-i-just-went-back-to-school-vb38vpr2j?shareToken=4d6b34e5797f4dd184b828e308f7a12e

Great interview with Jonathan Walters, up there as my favourite player over the last number of years. Never get less than 100% with Walters even when not a 100% fit himself he still busts his balls for the national team.

The man is a legend. Plain and simple.

I think that's one thing everyone on here can agree on (for a change :pac:)

PTH2009

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8mUWdO0PBo

our new lad with 2 goals (2nd one was very good)

keeponhurling

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: »

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jonathan-walters-interview-mum-died-and-the-next-day-i-just-went-back-to-school-vb38vpr2j?shareToken=4d6b34e5797f4dd184b828e308f7a12e

Great interview with Jonathan Walters, up there as my favourite player over the last number of years. Never get less than 100% with Walters even when not a 100% fit himself he still busts his balls for the national team.

The man is a legend. Plain and simple.

I think that's one thing everyone on here can agree on (for a change :pac:)

and he likes a bit of banter
http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/stoke-city-wayne-rooney-calls-jon-walters-wind-up-merchant-8230-walters-responds-with-botox-jibe/story-29413016-detail/story.html

yabadabado

Isn't about time to stop the Hogan discussion.
Like it or not he has declared for us and will get a call up very soon.

No one really knows what went on, its all speculation,may as well get behind him now and hope he's a huge success.

With a bit of luck him and Maguire have excellent seasons and our attacking options won't be so poor.

Minderbinder

Minderbinder wrote: »

The people so outraged about Hogan committing to Ireland have no place supporting the Ireland team or participating in this thread. It doesn't make any sense...
...
Or maybe the satisfaction is gained from acting the dick.

I think we should end the Hogan matter on this post. It should stand as a testament to just how...silly some of the stuff was. For pointing to the elephant in the room, that we're second choice, you were told you could not support Ireland and you should be censored.

Good man Minder, you injected a shot of humour into the matter anyway with that ridiculous overstatement. For my money, the funniest post on the matter, and a suitable way to end it!

eire4

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jonathan-walters-interview-mum-died-and-the-next-day-i-just-went-back-to-school-vb38vpr2j?shareToken=4d6b34e5797f4dd184b828e308f7a12e

Great interview with Jonathan Walters, up there as my favourite player over the last number of years. Never get less than 100% with Walters even when not a 100% fit himself he still busts his balls for the national team.

Thanks for posting that. I had missed that one. Absolutely brilliant interview and without a doubt Jon Walters has been my favourite Ireland player in recent years. Was for me our top player and the main reason we got to the Euro finals in 2016. A truly great person off the field it seems and someone who has given us his all and then some on the field. Hopefully he gets to finish his international career having played at the World Cup finals as well as the European Finals.

yabadabado

Walters is a class act .

Brock Turnpike

yabadabado wrote: »

Walters is a class act .

And a rebel.

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yabadabado

Molumby has a bright future according to a few things i have read/heard.

Marcus McGuane is getting linked with moves to City and Juve,probably better staying put for now .Supposed to be an exceptional talent but doubt we will see him in green again.

Dots1982

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

yabadabado wrote: »

Walters is a class act .

And a rebel.

And he stands up to bullies

Guffy

yabadabado wrote: »

Marcus McGuane is getting linked with moves to City and Juve,probably better staying put for now .Supposed to be an exceptional talent but doubt we will see him in green again.

Did he not go to England team?

Redo91

Surprised it wasn't mentioned but Aaron Connolly also made his debut for Brighton in that game becoming their first player born since the Millennium to play for the team.

keeponhurling

yabadabado wrote: »

Isn't about time to stop the Hogan discussion.
Like it or not he has declared for us and will get a call up very soon.

I'm glad he's declared for us. Unfortunately I don't think speculation will really end until he has been capped in a competitive game.
Whether or not there's any truth on it, speculation will continue, as it did in the cases of Arter or James McCarthy.
What happens if he scores 30 goals in the Premier League, and hasn't been capped yet by Ireland in a competitive game etc.

yabadabado

keeponhurling wrote: »

I'm glad he's declared for us. Unfortunately I don't think speculation will really end until he has been capped in a competitive game.
Whether or not there's any truth on it, speculation will continue, as it did in the cases of Arter or James McCarthy.
What happens if he scores 30 goals in the Premier League, and hasn't been capped yet by Ireland in a competitive game etc.

IMO he will be capped by us long before it's possible he scores 1 EPL goal never mind 30.

Could easily see him get an appearance v Moldova in October.

keeponhurling

Yes, and if he is capped v Moldova that would be ideal, then the issue is put to bed.
but in the case of McCarthy and Arter I think both went over year after getting their debuts in friendies, to being capped in a competitive game. Unfortunate, but of course didn't help in dispelling rumours.

Cake Man

Jaysus, just realised we're out against Georgia next Saturday and then the crunch one v Serbia 3 days later. That crept up so fast.


Absolutely vital we at least don't lose either of these games. I really don't know how we'll do away to Georgia, it's the ultimate banana skin. Best we can hope for is a nervy ground out 0-1 win, courtesy of an o.g. or something. I'd take the hand off you if offered now though.


Wales v Austria also a key game. A win for us and a draw there would be lovely as it would effectively kill off any remaining hope for the aforementioned two. Really would be a disaster to lose in Tblisi and one of Aus/Wal win as they'd be breathing down our necks.
Serbia guaranteed 3pts at home to Moldova so it's important we keep in touch with them.

It's encouraging to see a few of the players showing some form lately. Brady on the score (and assist) sheet the other night, McGeady & Ward doing well at Sunderland and Burnley respectively. Randolph with a few clean sheets for Middlesborough.

Brock Turnpike

Walters a doubt for the double header. Has anyone the number for the passport office? Need to get Hogan's passport fast tracked

tayto lover

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Walters a doubt for the double header. Has anyone the number for the passport office? Need to get Hogan's passport fast tracked

Ahhhh Noooooo.

PhilipsR

Cake Man wrote: »

Jaysus, just realised we're out against Georgia next Saturday and then the crunch one v Serbia 3 days later. That crept up so fast.


Absolutely vital we at least don't lose either of these games. I really don't know how we'll do away to Georgia, it's the ultimate banana skin. Best we can hope for is a nervy ground out 0-1 win, courtesy of an o.g. or something. I'd take the hand off you if offered now though.


Wales v Austria also a key game. A win for us and a draw there would be lovely as it would effectively kill off any remaining hope for the aforementioned two. Really would be a disaster to lose in Tblisi and one of Aus/Wal win as they'd be breathing down our necks.
Serbia guaranteed 3pts at home to Moldova so it's important we keep in touch with them.

It's encouraging to see a few of the players showing some form lately. Brady on the score (and assist) sheet the other night, McGeady & Ward doing well at Sunderland and Burnley respectively. Randolph with a few clean sheets for Middlesborough.

Must not lose? This defeatist attitude has got to stop within Ireland teams and Ireland fans.

These two games are must wins. We want 1st, not 2nd where we can get shafted by a terrible play off draw. If we win these two games, we're sorted. We'd be on to top the group with a win at home to Moldova in October.

It's time to be positive here and drive home this incredible position we've put ourselves in. There's no reason why we can't get 6 points.

polarbearhead

I hate to say it but the Georgians are due a result against us. Our luck against them down through the years has been incredible

Brock Turnpike

PhilipsR wrote: »

Must not lose? This defeatist attitude has got to stop within Ireland teams and Ireland fans.

These two games are must wins. We want 1st, not 2nd where we can get shafted by a terrible play off draw. If we win these two games, we're sorted. We'd be on to top the group with a win at home to Moldova in October.

It's time to be positive here and drive home this incredible position we've put ourselves in. There's no reason why we can't get 6 points.

And so it was ever thus...

The same debates were had in advance of the Wales and Austria games. We won't look to push home the position. Our manager is cautious by default on the bigger games.

Corholio

It's not defeatist as a supporter at all to say it's a must not lose game. We'd all love to be part of teams that can/will win most games they play but it's not realistic. Also supporters opinion on whether we should go out to win games or not has zero bearing on whether we will do that or not. Whether the manager will or not is a whole other discussion.

PTH2009

I bet we will bloody draw in Georgia

Ideal would be we win and Serbia/Moldova and Wales/Austria are draws but Serbia are guaranteed 3pts I think

Georgia game Sat, hurling final Sunday and then Serbia Tuesday. My nerves won't be able for it all

The Red Lad

I think we will beat Georgia it won't be easy work but I'm confident of 3 points, win that and we are in great position for the Serbia game. Georgia don't owe us one if they were good enough to beat us down through the years they would have they've got several chances. All the same they deserve some respect but very confident the lads can get a win away. Time to start believing a bit.

tayto lover

The Red Lad wrote: »

I think we will beat Georgia it won't be easy work but I'm confident of 3 points, win that and we are in great position for the Serbia game. Georgia don't owe us one if they were good enough to beat us down through the years they would have they've got several chances. All the same they deserve some respect but very confident the lads can get a win away. Time to start believing a bit.

We seem to have the hex on Georgia so let's keep it that way.

weldoninhio

Georgia are a nothing team. We will beat them comfortably. And if Serbia are as terrible as they were in the first game then we should be taking 6 easy points.

noodler

weldoninhio wrote: »

Georgia are a nothing team. We will beat them comfortably. And if Serbia are as terrible as they were in the first game then we should be taking 6 easy points.

They ran the show against us for 80 minutes in Belgrade.

Best Austria, drew with Wales twice.

Nothing assured about it.


Not as confident about Georgia either. If they scored first I'd be very downbeat on our prospects.

Here's hoping. Pivotal week.

TheCitizen

weldoninhio wrote: »

Georgia are a nothing team. We will beat them comfortably. And if Serbia are as terrible as they were in the first game then we should be taking 6 easy points.

One game at a time. Georgia away is always tricky. They drew with Wales in Cardiff.

eire4

TheCitizen wrote: »

One game at a time. Georgia away is always tricky. They drew with Wales in Cardiff.

And they have given us a real run for our money in recent meetings including the last one in this campaign in Dublin. I will be absolutely delighted if we find a way to nab 3 points over there next weekend.

weldoninhio

eire4 wrote: »

And they have given us a real run for our money in recent meetings including the last one in this campaign in Dublin. I will be absolutely delighted if we find a way to nab 3 points over there next weekend.

If we can't beat Georgia we've no business going to a World Cup.

noodler

weldoninhio wrote: »

If we can't beat Georgia we've no business going to a World Cup.

Well, wales didn't and they could still qualify but it's a handy soundbite.

It'll be a grind no matter what is the point.

PTH2009

Will Scott Hogan be brought in ???

When will the exact squad be announced

Adamocovic

Been away so apologies if others have commented about it.

Apparently Oldham are being linked with a loan deal for Jack Byrne. League One strugglers but you would imagine he would be more than able for the league and could improve his reputation big time with the move. Also same league as Wigan would be able to prove himself to them during the season.

eire4

weldoninhio wrote: »

If we can't beat Georgia we've no business going to a World Cup.

Georgia are certainly no world beaters true but they have some quality and have proven a tough side to beat in Tiblisi as Serbia the most talanted team in our group recently found when having to come from behind to beat them. We simply do not have the quality especially in attack to so arrogantly dismiss a team like Georgia away from home. As I said above for me if we can nab the 3 points from Saturdays game over there I will be delighted and it would be a very good result for us to do so.

Minderbinder

weldoninhio wrote: »

eire4 wrote: »

And they have given us a real run for our money in recent meetings including the last one in this campaign in Dublin. I will be absolutely delighted if we find a  way to nab 3 points over there next weekend.

If we can't beat Georgia we've no business going to a World Cup.

What is the point of this statement? People often say it but to me it sounds like utter nonsense. Doesn't mean anything, it's not insightful, never won any argument, but I guess it usually gets the last word since there is very little leeway in terms of making a reply.

Minderbinder

And by the way, in two of the last three World Cup Qualifying campaigns, Georgia have drawn at home to a team that ended up going to the Quarter Finals. I suppose they had no business there too.

major bill

Final Squad has being Announced

Republic of Ireland Squad
Goalkeepers: Darren Randolph (Middlesbrough), Rob Elliot (Newcastle United), Keiren Westwood (Sheffield Wednesday)
Defenders: Cyrus Christie (Middlesbrough), Richard Keogh (Derby County), Shane Duffy (Brighton & Hove Albion), Ciaran Clark (Newcastle United), John O'Shea (Sunderland), Kevin Long, Stephen Ward (Burnley)
Midfielders: Aiden McGeady (Sunderland), Glenn Whelan, Conor Hourihane (Aston Villa), Harry Arter (Bournemouth), David Meyler (Hull City), Robbie Brady (Burnley), Wes Hoolahan (Norwich City), James McClean (West Bromwich Albion), Daryl Horgan (Preston North End), Jonathan Hayes (Celtic), Callum O'Dowda (Bristol City)
Forwards: Jonathan Walters (Burnley), Shane Long (Southampton), Daryl Murphy (Nottingham Forest), David McGoldrick (Ipswich Town)

dr.kenneth noisewater

Were in real trouble if Christie picks up a booking on Saturday, suppose Meyler would fill in? Think O'Neill will go with the below
Randolph
Christie-Duffy-Clark-Ward
Whelan-Hendrick
McGeady-Brady-McClean
Walters

Radiant Cool Crazy Nightmare

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

Were in real trouble if Christie picks up a booking on Saturday, suppose Meyler would fill in? Think O'Neill will go with the below
Randolph
Christie-Duffy-Clark-Ward
Whelan-Hendrick
McGeady-Brady-McClean
Walters

No Hendrick. Will prob stick Arter in instead and id say you arent far off.

Banjaxed82

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

Were in real trouble if Christie picks up a booking on Saturday, suppose Meyler would fill in? Think O'Neill will go with the below
Randolph
Christie-Duffy-Clark-Ward
Whelan-Hendrick
McGeady-Brady-McClean
Walters

Hendrick is out injured.