Republic of Ireland Team Talk/News/Rumours 2017

The Talking Bread

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Fairly sure Christie played right back, was down in front of me and he was getting slaughtered especially in the first half.

He means in the Gelsenkirchen game

Christie did play RB in Aviva

The Talking Bread

Are you sure that Brady didn't drop LB at that juncture after Meyler replaced Ward

In fact he definitely did........I think !!!

The Talking Bread

I swear I had an in-dream (dellusion) last night that Ireland won 2-0 in Copenhagan.............god, honest truth, I assure you!

30/1....................sure I have to stick a (waste a) tenner on it now!

tayto lover

I wonder who is going to make up our midfield. I can see Whelan starting.

tigger123

tayto lover wrote: »

I wonder who is going to make up our midfield. I can see Whelan starting.

Hope not. Think MON will be pretty conservative on Saturday though, so can see it happening.

Sin City

tigger123 wrote: »

Hope not. Think MON will be pretty conservative on Saturday though, so can see it happening.

Mclean Arthur Whelan and Hendick with Brady in the hole behind Long/Murphy

Hope Im wrong

johnpatrick81

Father Hernandez

The Talking Bread wrote: »

I swear I had an in-dream (dellusion) last night that Ireland won 2-0 in Copenhagan.............god, honest truth, I assure you!

30/1....................sure I have to stick a (waste a) tenner on it now!

I'd a fairly vivid dream on Monday night it finished 2-2 in Copenhagen, two late goals from either team, I'd certainly take that.

Will let you know how the second leg goes

pjohnson

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

Bahahaha

blinding

Hopefully 1-0 to us but more likely 0-0 to them with the possibility of an away goal win in Dublin .

Hopefully we get a goal anyway .

tigger123

blinding wrote: »

Hopefully 1-0 to us but more likely 0-0 to them with the possibility of an away goal win in Dublin .

Hopefully we get a goal anyway .

We've shown that we can score away, so wouldn't be surprised.

I expect it will be summit similar to the approach in Cardiff; rough and tumble with long balls.

Start playing football on Tuesday in the Aviva.

Kingp35

Sin City wrote: »

Mclean Arthur Whelan and Hendick with Brady in the hole behind Long/Murphy

Hope Im wrong

I hope you're wrong too, Brady is useless in that position.

The Red Lad

Whealan will 100% start hope I’m proved wrong however. Love if O’Neill started Wes on Saturday as realistically most of us think he won’t it would really send out a statement that we are going for that away goal which is huge I think.
Going with a 1-1 on Saturday and praying McClean keeps his discipline get that and not too many suspensions and it will be a great result awful lot on yellows going into it!!

Ferris_Bueller

Sin City wrote: »

Mclean Arthur Whelan and Hendick with Brady in the hole behind Long/Murphy

Hope Im wrong

I'd say you're dead right, I would probably go with that midfield too if I were MON. Wouldn't go two up top in the first leg and think Wes will be more effective off the bench or in the second leg, after that can't think of anyone else who should be in contention to start.

8-10

Wes will start I reckon

Trond

Kingp35 wrote: »

I hope you're wrong too, Brady is useless in that position.

Pretty sure he's played there about twice in his career to date. So useless is a bit harsh....

Banjaxed82

Kingp35 wrote: »

I hope you're wrong too, Brady is useless in that position.

Whatever about how well he plays in that position with a fully fit Ireland team I wouldn't have Brady starting.

The Talking Bread

Banjaxed82 wrote: »

Whatever about how well he plays in that position with a fully fit Ireland team I wouldn't have Brady starting.

christ.

tigger123

Banjaxed82 wrote: »

Whatever about how well he plays in that position with a fully fit Ireland team I wouldn't have Brady starting.

Who would start ahead of him then?

Dots1982

Banjaxed82 wrote: »

Kingp35 wrote: »

I hope you're wrong too, Brady is useless in that position.

Whatever about how well he plays in that position with a fully fit Ireland team I wouldn't have Brady starting.

Yikes, you’d take out our best crosser and setpiece taker...on a team that scores most of it goals from crosses and set pieces , a player who has scored crucial goals in playoffs and tournaments...my my

PhilipsR

Murphy HAS to play on Saturday. Our last two away games sum up with or without him. He allows us to grab a foothold in the game.

Banjaxed82

Dots1982 wrote: »

Yikes, you’d take out our best crosser and setpiece taker...on a team that scores most of it goals from crosses and set pieces , a player who has scored crucial goals in playoffs and tournaments...my my

I couldn't give a monkeys. He's gone missing since the Euros. I won't deny he's our best crosser/dead ball expert (on his day) but his delivery has been SHOCKING this campaign. Consistently shocking. The longer this campaign has gone on, the less he has justified his automatic starting spot.

Let's be honest, the over riding reason that he's in the team is for his dead ball skills, etc. And when these attributes go AWOL (which they have done) he's not been offering much else in other areas to consider him a first name on the team sheet.

The Talking Bread

Well he is playing anyway so that is terribly unfortunate for us, I guess.

OldMrBrennan83

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The_Kew_Tour

Heading off in morning, thankfully got a ticket. The neeves are jangling a bit but while I think its a 60/40 situation against us I think away goal to go ahead or level matters will make them nervous. Think Denmark will sneak it, but we need away goal and 2 would be lovely.(of course once we dont concede 4+)

mada82

Have to agree with the comments about Brady’s over rated set piece delivery.

noodler

mada82 wrote: »

Have to agree with the comments about Brady’s over rated set piece delivery.

In fairness.

Goal against Bosnia.

Assist versus Bosnia.

Goal Italy.

Corner versus Serbia.

Might even be more I am no not remembering.


Granted, he has been less effective lately but hardly a man to jettison. He is playing every week for a Burnley team doing very well.

blinding

The Talking Bread wrote: »

christ.

Does that Poster mean Liam Brady ?

yabadabado

Brady has had a poor enough campaign but is still a hugely important player for us. Definitely want him in the side,tomorrow night is as good a time as any to make a mark o tbe campaign.

Feel we can get a positive result tomorrow,get out of there without defeat.We have been very good this campaign away from home.
Just in airport and heard a verse of **** Delaney and the FAI

PhilipsR

Brady has had an absolutely terrible campaign for us. He’s been suspended twice to compound things, and I’m one of Robbie’s biggest fans. He’d be the player out of everyone playing in this that could put in two big performances for us to look over the campaign. As there’s no way he can be happy with that.

Dots1982

In fairness, thinking about it, he has t been great this campaign.

But would I drop him? no chance. Also would I play him in the hole? no chance.

pjohnson

Biggest problem is Brady is best on the left so hes competing with McClean, McClean has been red hot this campaign so he has that spot nailed on. Brady just gets shoved somewhere else that doesn't suit him.

Nalz

pjohnson wrote: »

Biggest problem is Brady is best on the left so hes competing with McClean, McClean has been red hot this campaign so he has that spot nailed on. Brady just gets shoved somewhere else that doesn't suit him.

Unless McClean gets shoved up top or in the whole which MON has done before but rarely.

Zico !

Dont rate Christie at all -why not have brady and ward as the full backs

johnpatrick81

Christie has been fairly solid and is good going forward.

Brady is terrible defensively. He's not a defender. Anytime he plays there he gets caught out.

pjohnson

Zico ! wrote: »

Dont rate Christie at all -why not have brady and ward as the full backs

Mainly because having 2 left backs and no right back would be an odd formation.

artanevilla

pjohnson wrote: »

Mainly because having 2 left backs and no right back would be an odd formation.

One left back and one midfielder....

Steve The Barman

I think it'll be
1st leg
Denmark 3 - 1 Ireland

2nd leg
Ireland 1 - 1 Denmark

BullBlackNova

I wouldn't be rushing to drop Brady but he hasn't been great for club or country for some time now.

I think some people (not on here but general football fans) overrate him a bit because of the goal against Italy and hold him in higher esteem than his general performances actually merit. He's a solid performer but he's not untouchable.

Despite being a more talented athlete than McClean, he doesn't show half the drive and, as a result, his performances aren't on the same level over the last 12 months or so, for example.

Brady's also quite a poor full back so the idea of putting him on the right or shunting Ward, who has been pretty solid for club and country over the last while, is not a good one for me. I'd drop Brady before Ward and McClean which is Brady's main issue for us, I guess - he's not as good as the players who play in his positions but he's far better than our options in other positions.

The Talking Bread

pjohnson wrote: »

Zico ! wrote: »

Dont rate Christie at all -why not have brady and ward as the full backs

Mainly because having 2 left backs and no right back would be an odd formation.

Surely you were smart enough to realise he meant switching Ward to RB


Not that I agree with that myself

Father Hernandez

Steve The Barman wrote: »

I think it'll be
1st leg
Denmark 3 - 1 Ireland

2nd leg
Ireland 1 - 1 Denmark

I don't really understand what you achieved posting this with nothing to back up your predictions into an Irish thread other than being able to say "I told you so" if your outcomes come through

Poor taste

Steve The Barman

Father Hernandez wrote: »

I don't really understand what you achieved posting this with nothing to back up your predictions into an Irish thread other than being able to say "I told you so" if your outcomes come through

Poor taste

If i'd to have said two reland wins would you have replied the same? I doubt it very much

tigger123

Steve The Barman wrote: »

I think it'll be
1st leg
Denmark 3 - 1 Ireland

2nd leg
Ireland 1 - 1 Denmark

There's no way the Danes are gonna put 3 past us. Bale couldn't even score against us.

pjohnson

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Surely you were smart enough to realise he meant switching Ward to RB


Not that I agree with that myself

Could easily have been Brady shoved at RB (think he played there a bit for Norwich when Whitakker was suspended years ago and Turner was injured so Martin had to go CB, he was awful but he playe there). Dont know has Ward played RB ever? He certainly hasnt last two years at least as Lowton has been near constant RB at Burnley. Surely the smarter option would have been Brady RB?

Either way if thats it we'd be shoving our best LB to the right just to accomadate our second best Left Midfielder out of position so he can take set pieces? Are Bradys set pieces that good we can weaken our defence just to shove him in?

Thats the problem with Brady. He is best on the left side. Our left side is solid with Ward and McClean so it becomes a case of what hole can we stick Brady in for this match.

Father Hernandez

BullBlackNova wrote: »

I wouldn't be rushing to drop Brady but he hasn't been great for club or country for some time now.

I think some people (not on here but general football fans) overrate him a bit because of the goal against Italy and hold him in higher esteem than his general performances actually merit. He's a solid performer but he's not untouchable.

Despite being a more talented athlete than McClean, he doesn't show half the drive and, as a result, his performances aren't on the same level over the last 12 months or so, for example.

Brady's also quite a poor full back so the idea of putting him on the right or shunting Ward, who has been pretty solid for club and country over the last while, is not a good one for me. I'd drop Brady before Ward and McClean which is Brady's main issue for us, I guess - he's not as good as the players who play in his positions but he's far better than our options in other positions.

I think this is fairly bang on tbh, I agree Brady's contribution for club this year hasn't been eye catching. Only provided 2 assists albeit he's playing in a team that has scored only 10 goals this season in the Prem. For Ireland though yeah, since the Italian goal he hasn't done a lot to suggest he should be automatically starting every game.

Looking at others around the team, you can see why they'll start tomorrow evening, Hendrick's workrate vs Wales to get the goal, McClean nothing needs to be said, Murphy has earned it.

I still feel however though that he has the ability to do something out of the ordinary and grab a goal or assist when it matters most

Steve The Barman

tigger123 wrote: »

There's no way the Danes are gonna put 3 past us. Bale couldn't even score against us.

Lets hope you're right! When the last time we shipped 3+ goals?

tigger123

pjohnson wrote: »

Could easily have been Brady shoved at RB (think he played there a bit for Norwich when Whitakker was suspended years ago). Dont know has Ward played RB ever? He certainly hasnt last two years at least as Lowton has been near constant RB at Burnley. Surely the smarter option would have been Brady RB?

Either way if thats it we'd be shoving our best LB to the right just to accomadate our second best Left Midfielder out of position so he can take set pieces?

Thats the problem with Brady. He is best on the left side. Our left side is solid with Ward and McClean so it becomes a case of what hole can we stick Brady in for this match.

Maybe Brady on the left and McClean free to sprint around the opposition half as much as he wants.

Whatever happens, Ward, Brady and McClean will all start.

Zico !

pjohnson wrote: »

Mainly because having 2 left backs and no right back would be an odd formation.

Well it wouldnt be hard for a right full to play at left its been done before

tigger123

Steve The Barman wrote: »

Lets hope you're right! When the last time we shipped 3+ goals?

Mexico and Uruguay in friendlies in June. Before that, in a match that mattered, it was France.

Father Hernandez

Steve The Barman wrote: »

If i'd to have said two reland wins would you have replied the same? I doubt it very much

I'd probably have taken no second look at your post.

You've literally landed into this thread having never posted here before, as there is a discussion about Irish team news, etc going on and basically said fúck it lads, you're getting thumped tomorrow night, g'luck