Republic of Ireland Team Talk/News/Rumours 2017

keeponhurling

Duff wrote: »

Leon Best is mint!

eamonpk

keeponhurling wrote: »

so possible starting line-up for Thursday night, given who we are missing

Randalph

Coleman
Ward
O'Shea
Keogh

McClean
Brady
Whelan
Hendrick

Walters
Long

This is the same starting 11 as the Serbian match isn't it? If it is then the injuries have not been a big factor. Still like to have Arter starting. Anyone know if Hoolahan is fully fit as he is the other one I would possibly have played

The Talking Bread

eamonpk wrote: »

This is the same starting 11 as the Serbian match isn't it? If it is then the injuries have not been a big factor. Still like to have Arter starting. Anyone know if Hoolahan is fully fit as he is the other one I would possibly have played

arter has picked up a knock, in fairness plenty enough in that starting midfield to win both games comfortably. Nice to have a solid 11 with no injuries.

Worztron

We badly need to start to give fresh strikers a chance. Come 2 years our current strikers will be well past it.

wardides

justshane wrote: »

Eh? They don't play in Ireland how is that possible? Silly argument. I'm a huge fan of the league of Ireland but for a player to be touted for Ireland they have to be really exceeding in it and probably Europe also, i.e Daryl Horgan. Maguire isn't even top scorer in the league so he's nowhere near it.

For example Huddersfield are top of the championship, Scannel is playing regularly and well for them. So he's a better selection.

I'd also argue that Madden, Scannell etc would walk into this Dundalk team, and you could therefore say they are playing regularly in Europe. It's not Paddy Madden or Joe Mason's fault that their route to showcasing himself in Europe is 100x harder than Daryl Horgans.

Banjaxed82

Worztron wrote: »

We badly need to start to give fresh strikers a chance. Come 2 years our current strikers will be well past it.

I think that time has already arrived. We're toothless in attack.

Long has the legs on most defenders, but pace doesn't mean goals, as we all know. Literally every other striker is a journeyman. I'd be worried now, not 2 years down the road

eamonpk

The Talking Bread wrote: »

eamonpk wrote: »

This is the same starting 11 as the Serbian match isn't it? If it is then the injuries have not been a big factor. Still like to have Arter starting. Anyone know if Hoolahan is fully fit as he is the other one I would possibly have played

arter has picked up a knock, in fairness plenty enough in that starting midfield to win both games comfortably. Nice to have a solid 11 with no injuries.

Looks like James McCarthy is fit which will probably change the 11 that most think will start i.e. Randolph, Coleman, O'Shea, Keogh, Ward, Whelan, McClean, Hendrick, Brady, Long, Walters
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37424268

8-10

Duff wrote: »

Leon Best is mint!

Mint?

PTH2009

As nervous for tomorrow's game as I was for the Sweden game in the euros

A draw could be as bad as a defeat (may sound stupid but wins against the lower ranked teams are a must If we want to progress)

Duff

Ah jaysus lads, was a thing a few years ago. Probably more memorable to us Toon fans.

The Talking Bread

PTH2009 wrote: »

As nervous for tomorrow's game as I was for the Sweden game in the euros

A draw could be as bad as a defeat (may sound stupid but wins against the lower ranked teams are a must If we want to progress)

Ah, now, tournament football v early rounds qualifying home match that we should win!!

Nothing stupid about that, I would envisage every fan has that line of thinking!

wardides

wardides wrote: »

I'd also argue that Madden, Scannell etc would walk into this Dundalk team, and you could therefore say they are playing regularly in Europe...

Ermmmmmmmmm.

Ammmmmmmmm.

Ummmmmmmmm.

They're not.

yabadabado

Deleted User wrote: »

Ermmmmmmmmm.

Ammmmmmmmm.

Ummmmmmmmm.

They're not.

Hard argue with that :rolleyes:

Trond

U19's currently winning again.

Hopefully they see that out and they'll be looking at 4 wins in a row before they play Germany which (i think sees them qualify automatically!).

They look as good a side as we've produced in long time....Mohan seems a great manager for them as well.

eamonpk

From http://sportsnewsireland.com/soccer/soccer_irish/team-news-for-republic-of-ireland-v-georgia-kick-off-745pm-thursday/
Manchester City goalkeeper Ian Lawlor and Aberdeen striker Adam Rooney were both been added to the squad, while several players have been assessed by the FAI medical staff.
I believe Forde was injured but anyone know what happened Westwood?

earlytobed

I think he was taken off injured on Saturday
Checked, taken off at half time

Wilberto

Team is in!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuGdsGAXgAAcHAT.png

Morrison J

Ciaran Clark. **** me.

frisbeeface

That defence makes me scared.

tayto lover

Hope it works but it's not the team i'd start.

Kerrydude1981

Havent seen Clark play this season,but going by what the lads are saying on TV

MON is rolling the dice and hoping that Clark brings his club form to the team

Alfa Quadrifoglio

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/oct/06/international-football-10-things-to-look-out-for-world-cup-2018-qualifying?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

The Guardian of all papers now championing the cause of Daryl Horgan for the Irish squad

Mantis Toboggan

Win is a win! Georgia are a sticky wicket team. They will take points of other teams in the group.

eamonpk

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Win is a win! Georgia are a sticky wicket team. They will take points of other teams in the group.

The result is the most important thing but to bring in Whelan near the end just gave the signal we were hanging on by defending to the win rather than going out and scoring a 2nd to make sure of the win
Austria away next month and we have been lucky in the last 2 WC qualifiers but I can't see it continuing.

sky88

eamonpk wrote: »

The result is the most important thing but to bring in Whelan near the end just gave the signal we were hanging on by defending to the win rather than going out and scoring a 2nd to make sure of the win
Austria away next month and we have been lucky in the last 2 WC qualifiers but I can't see it continuing.

MON is every bit of the negative manager trap was so i dont see why its surprising that hed bring whelan on.

TheCitizen

There was mention in the match thread about MON being passive aggressive with Tony O'Donoghue. I think he picks on O'Donoghue as a symbol of his disdain for the pundits sitting in the RTE studio. Pundits have their job to do and they're supposed to entertain the public as well which is what Dunphy does when he goes into hyperbole. Still for O'Neill it's boring to be listening to. Dunphy never managed anyone.

Brady, he was talking about the Euro's saying we did what was expected of us at the Euros and nothing more which is fair enough. But when he was involved in the set up with Trap we didn't qualify, and after he left when we did qualify with Trap we were pathetic in Poland utterly pathetic, a disgrace actually. So we didn't punch our weight under Trap when we did manage to qualify but Brady spent the following two years defending Trap on RTE as things went from bad to worse with him. It's easy for Brady to sit there and say we only did what was expected of us in France, but it rings fairly hollow.

I'm not saying you have to have been a manager to be a pundit but you can understand why O'Neill would get pissed off with them. If we go on to qualify again, which I think we will, the first half of the game last night will be forgotten.

TheCitizen

sky88 wrote: »

MON is every bit of the negative manager trap was so i dont see why its surprising that hed bring whelan on.

This isn't accurate. There are times like last night when the approach appears overly cautious, but there also has been a good few performances under O'Neill, positive attacking performances, that Traps team delivered a lot less of.

Mantis Toboggan

eamonpk wrote: »

The result is the most important thing but to bring in Whelan near the end just gave the signal we were hanging on by defending to the win rather than going out and scoring a 2nd to make sure of the win
Austria away next month and we have been lucky in the last 2 WC qualifiers but I can't see it continuing.

Makes sense to bring on a defensively minded midfielder when 1 nil up with 10 minutes to go. There's no extra points for scoring a second goal but if we were to concede our chances of reaching the world cup would be almost over.

The Talking Bread

sky88 wrote: »

eamonpk wrote: »

The result is the most important thing but to bring in Whelan near the end just gave the signal we were hanging on by defending to the win rather than going out and scoring a 2nd to make sure of the win
Austria away next month and we have been lucky in the last 2 WC qualifiers but I can't see it continuing.

MON is every bit of the negative manager trap was so i dont see why its surprising that hed bring whelan on.

No he isn't. Case in point being our full backs getting forward. Ward and Coleman were getting forward a lot. Coleman was basically in the back of the neck when he scored his goal.

Under Trap I remember watching in home games, even bloody friendlies, our full backs rarely crossed the half way line!

Yes he focuses a lot on structure in the middle 3rd of the pitch and Shane Long is stranded too much on his own but allowing our full backs to get forward signifies he isn't half as defensive as Trap.

Trap had Andrews and when in the midfield. MON is breeding a system of allowing Hendrick to get forward as much as he can.
The fact that our midfield and wingers and even JW are obliged to cover back too much when we are not in possession may be at the cost of quick counter breaks I think.
Quiet honestly MON hasn't massive confidence in his centre backs, (justifiably) and that is the root of the evil.

Mantis Toboggan

Henrick, Brady and possibly Shane long to miss the Moldova game. I'd imagine wes and Whelan to come into the team.

GLaDOS

Walter and Adam Rooney possibly our only forward options possibly for Moldova

Trond

Arter "sticking" with Ireland as per the Daily Mail!

Utter nonsense of a story to begin with.

Father Hernandez

Trond wrote: »

Arter "sticking" with Ireland as per the Daily Mail!

Utter nonsense of a story to begin with.

I'd pay no attention to that tripe

paulie21

Friendly against Uruguay announced for the Aviva next June

TheCitizen

The Talking Bread wrote: »

No he isn't. Case in point being our full backs getting forward. Ward and Coleman were getting forward a lot. Coleman was basically in the back of the neck when he scored his goal.

Under Trap I remember watching in home games, even bloody friendlies, our full backs rarely crossed the half way line!

Yes he focuses a lot on structure in the middle 3rd of the pitch and Shane Long is stranded too much on his own but allowing our full backs to get forward signifies he isn't half as defensive as Trap.

Trap had Andrews and when in the midfield. MON is breeding a system of allowing Hendrick to get forward as much as he can.
The fact that our midfield and wingers and even JW are obliged to cover back too much when we are not in possession may be at the cost of quick counter breaks I think.
Quiet honestly MON hasn't massive confidence in his centre backs, (justifiably) and that is the root of the evil.

There is a tendency on this site with a fair few posters to criticise MON and tie him with Trap no matter what. Most of that lot didn't want O'Neill to get the job in the first place.

At the end of the day if he gets us qualified like he did for France it doesn't matter what they say and they're wrong anyway, he is not as negative as Trap was and the team have demonstrated under him on numerous occasions that they can play attacking, expansive, positive football.

ahlookit

paulie21 wrote: »

Friendly against Uruguay announced for the Aviva next June

Are Oman busy that day?

The Talking Bread

paulie21 wrote: »

Friendly against Uruguay announced for the Aviva next June

What about Oman?? Bit harsh on them?

noodler

TheCitizen wrote: »

There is a tendency on this site with a fair few posters to criticise MON and tie him with Trap no matter what. Most of that lot didn't want O'Neill to get the job in the first place.

At the end of the day if he gets us qualified like he did for France it doesn't matter what they say and they're wrong anyway, he is not as negative as Trap was and the team have demonstrated under him on numerous occasions that they can play attacking, expansive, positive football.

He isn't as defensively solid as Trap's teams were.

There are a couple of more adventurous performances, particularly in the Euros, but there isn't the difference I feel those who campaigned for MON to get the job feel there is.

Sebastian Dangerfield

TheCitizen wrote: »

Dunphy never managed anyone.

He managed to stay alive for 63 and a half years baby :pac:

GLaDOS

noodler wrote: »

He isn't as defensively solid as Trap's teams were.

Trap had a better team available tbf. Richard Dunne and a younger John O'Shea would massively improve us at the back.

Our options at centre back at the moment are really poor.

The Talking Bread

Thats the Irish team and bench from 2009 France match under trap,

GK 1 Shay Given
RB 4 John O'Shea
CB 5 Richard Dunne
CB 2 Sean St Ledger
LB 3 Kevin Kilbane
RM 7 Liam Lawrence Substituted off 80'
CM 6 Glen Whelan
CM 8 Keith Andrews
LM 11 Damien Duff Substituted off 76'
CF 10 Robbie Keane (c)
CF 9 Kevin Doyle Substituted off 71'
Substitutes:
GK 16 Joe Murphy
DF 13 Paul McShane
DF 14 Stephen Kelly
MF 12 Aiden McGeady Substituted in 76'
MF 15 Darron Gibson
MF 17 Stephen Hunt Substituted in 80'
FW 18 Leon Best Substituted in

Not many would get into that team from last night. 2 or 3 at a push.

stephenl15

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Thats the Irish team and bench from 2009 France match under trap,

GK 1 Shay Given
RB 4 John O'Shea
CB 5 Richard Dunne
CB 2 Sean St Ledger
LB 3 Kevin Kilbane
RM 7 Liam Lawrence Substituted off 80'
CM 6 Glen Whelan
CM 8 Keith Andrews
LM 11 Damien Duff Substituted off 76'
CF 10 Robbie Keane (c)
CF 9 Kevin Doyle Substituted off 71'
Substitutes:
GK 16 Joe Murphy
DF 13 Paul McShane
DF 14 Stephen Kelly
MF 12 Aiden McGeady Substituted in 76'
MF 15 Darron Gibson
MF 17 Stephen Hunt Substituted in 80'
FW 18 Leon Best Substituted in

Not many would get into that team from last night. 2 or 3 at a push.

Brady, Coleman maybe Hendrick?

Mantis Toboggan

What ever happened to Steven Kelly?

He should still be pretty young!

OldMrBrennan83

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Wilberto

Tyson Fury wrote: »

What ever happened to Steven Kelly?

He should still be pretty young!

He's a 33 year old right back playing for Rotherham. We've got much better players in in that position in Seamus and Cyrus.

LordAwesome

Why has Anthony Pilkington been frozen out of the team? He was an exciting PL winger a couple of years ago and has score 3 in 9 this season in the Championship.

TheCitizen

noodler wrote: »

He isn't as defensively solid as Trap's teams were.

There are a couple of more adventurous performances, particularly in the Euros, but there isn't the difference I feel those who campaigned for MON to get the job feel there is.

Under MON we are beating higher ranked teams like Germany and Italy, that didn't happen with Trap, that's the most significant difference. I don't agree that we're less solid defensively now than when Trap was here and that's despite the reduction in quality of the squad overall.

weldoninhio

TheCitizen wrote: »

Under MON we are beating higher ranked teams like Germany and Italy, that didn't happen with Trap, that's the most significant difference. I don't agree that we're less solid defensively now than when Trap was here and that's despite the reduction in quality of the squad overall.

MON seems to be able to motivate the team for the big matches. But that'll count for nothing if we can't put away the lesser nations. We dropped 2 points away to an atrocious Serbia team. Could bite us on the arse come the end of qualifying.

tayto lover

Anyone know how serious Robbie Brady's injury is please?

TheCitizen

weldoninhio wrote: »

MON seems to be able to motivate the team for the big matches. But that'll count for nothing if we can't put away the lesser nations. We dropped 2 points away to an atrocious Serbia team. Could bite us on the arse come the end of qualifying.

If we beat Moldova 7 points from the first 3 matches would be a good start, despite not playing at our best. I reckon Serbia will take points off Wales and Austria at home as well.