Nissan Leaf

grogi · 15-06-2017 4:22pm

ELM327 wrote: »

I'm with Boatmad on this one.
EVs are bringing a new audience to lots of new terminology.
Better to teach correctly from the start the difference between kW, kW/h, amps, volts, current and so on, than learning incorrectly from the get go.

So be careful yourself - where would you use kW/h ?

ELM327 · 15-06-2017 4:25pm

grogi wrote: »

So be careful yourself - where would you use kW/h ?

It's always good to accept constructive criticism
In the SI it's kW.H so I wrote kW/h. Apparently that is incorrect and it is kWh.

BoatMad · 15-06-2017 5:32pm

ELM327 wrote: »

It's always good to accept constructive criticism
In the SI it's kW.H so I wrote kW/h. Apparently that is incorrect and it is kWh.

correct , but sure we all understood what you meant

:D boom boom

grogi · 15-06-2017 5:45pm

ELM327 wrote: »

It's always good to accept constructive criticism
In the SI it's kW.H so I wrote kW/h. Apparently that is incorrect and it is kWh.

Again, be sure what you're posting... In SI the unit of energy is J.

grogi · 15-06-2017 5:49pm

grogi wrote: »

Again, be sure what you're posting... In SI the unit of energy is J.

And while we are on units... kW/100km is equally nonsense as kWh/h, while I have seen all the posters here using it, @BoatMad included.

Sadly I don't have a piece of paper to calculate it's dimension and equivalent in SI...

BoatMad · 15-06-2017 5:50pm

grogi wrote: »

Again, be sure what you're posting... In SI the unit of energy is J.

SI defines base AND derived units

J is the base unit , kWH is a derived unit if energy , better expressed as " work done " at constant energy over 1 hour

DrPhilG · 15-06-2017 5:53pm

Could we have a poll to gauge numbers of who gives a shlt?

BoatMad · 15-06-2017 5:55pm

DrPhilG wrote: »

Could we have a poll to gauge numbers of who gives a shlt?

or a poll that says that those that dont care should read another thread

grogi · 15-06-2017 5:56pm

BoatMad wrote: »

SI defines base AND derived units

J is the base unit , kWH is a derived unit if energy , better expressed as " work done " at constant energy over 1 hour

Hour is not SI. The same way a mile, yard, year or quart are not, although linear conversion between them and SI units exists.

DrPhilG · 15-06-2017 5:58pm

BoatMad wrote: »

or a poll that says that those that dont care should read another thread

This is a thread about the Nissan Leaf.

Maybe we could have a thread about terminology? I could stay out of that one.

BoatMad · 15-06-2017 6:00pm

DrPhilG wrote: »

This is a thread about the Nissan Leaf.

Maybe we could have a thread about terminology? I could stay out of that one.

I menat to add several of these

:D

its boards, random changes in direction are to be expected !!!

NIMAN · 21-06-2017 9:46pm

Another Leaf question just popped into the old grey matter (excuse me if its silly).

Is it possible to add a 6.6 charger to a 3.3KW car afterwards?

codrulz · 21-06-2017 9:49pm

NIMAN wrote: »

Another Leaf question just popped into the old grey matter (excuse me if its silly).

Is it possible to add a 6.6 charger to a 3.3KW car afterwards?

No it's not, 6.6KW must be fitted from factory.

goz83 · 21-06-2017 11:23pm

NIMAN wrote: »

Another Leaf question just popped into the old grey matter (excuse me if its silly).

Is it possible to add a 6.6 charger to a 3.3KW car afterwards?

Impossible is nothing

Gumbo · 21-06-2017 11:40pm

NIMAN wrote: »

Another Leaf question just popped into the old grey matter (excuse me if its silly).

Is it possible to add a 6.6 charger to a 3.3KW car afterwards?

Yes. It's a bolt on mod. The trouble is finding a 6.6 OBC.

codrulz wrote: »

No it's not, 6.6KW must be fitted from factory.

Where did you hear this?
From what I'm told, there's no coding or updates even require. Just plug and play.

DrPhilG · 21-06-2017 11:50pm

I've always been told that it cannot be added afterwards.

NIMAN · 21-06-2017 11:53pm

It was just a question that came to me, and of course you might eventually start to see Leafs in breakers yards, so if there was a possibility of getting a 6.6 charger and having it added to your 3.3 car.

isnottheword · 22-06-2017 2:10am

NIMAN wrote: »

It was just a question that came to me, and of course you might eventually start to see Leafs in breakers yards, so if there was a possibility of getting a 6.6 charger and having it added to your 3.3 car.

Its been discussed on here before. By all accounts, its a non-runner. If you are after a 6.6, you'll get a 6.6 - you just have to have patience and do the ground-work (and a lot of the time, that means tracking down all options and asking the seller directly if it's 6.6 or not. Many of them either dont even know - dealer or private - or forget to advertise the fact).

KCross · 22-06-2017 10:03am

NIMAN wrote: »

It was just a question that came to me, and of course you might eventually start to see Leafs in breakers yards, so if there was a possibility of getting a 6.6 charger and having it added to your 3.3 car.

It can be done but two big gotchas....

- Finding a Leaf in a breakers yard is difficult, finding a 6.6kW version is extremely difficult
- Finding someone who is willing to do the work is probably even more difficult.

Its not like your backstreet mechanic swapping out an alternator. There is high voltage to be dealt with so its a specialist job. I doubt a main dealer would do it and if they did, it would be with new parts and would be a ridiculous price so the summary is it can be done but the chance of getting it done is very very slim for now.

I'd also say it would be more economical to just buy a 6.6kW Leaf and hopefully as we move forward 6.6kW will be the norm (like the Ioniq).

NIMAN · 22-06-2017 11:12pm

Another couple of questions:

1) re: sound system.

Is the Bose one in the Tekna/SVE much better in quality than that in the Acenta/SV?

2) Differences in Tekna v Acenta.
Tell me am I missing any. I think the Tekna has, over and above the TAcenta, the following:
Leather seats
Heated seats
Heated steering wheel
Bose audio
All round camera
Bigger and nicer alloys

n97 mini · 23-06-2017 12:18am

NIMAN wrote: »

Another couple of questions:

1) re: sound system.

Is the Bose one in the Tekna/SVE much better in quality than that in the Acenta/SV?

It's better, but with a caveat. Over bluetooth it's pretty ****e. Use a USB drive and it's very good.

NIMAN wrote: »

2) Differences in Tekna v Acenta.
Tell me am I missing any. I think the Tekna has, over and above the TAcenta, the following:
Leather seats - YES
Heated seats - YES, but it's an option (Cold Pack) on non SVE
Heated steering wheel - same as above
Bose audio - YES
All round camera - YES
Bigger and nicer alloys- YES

DrPhilG · 23-06-2017 9:06am

For me it was the heated seats and wheel, and the 360 camera that sold me on the Tekna.

Now that my wife has experienced 360 parking cameras, I'm doomed to never be allowed buy a car without them in future.

KCross · 23-06-2017 10:24am

NIMAN wrote: »

Another couple of questions:

1) re: sound system.

Is the Bose one in the Tekna/SVE much better in quality than that in the Acenta/SV?

2) Differences in Tekna v Acenta.
Tell me am I missing any. I think the Tekna has, over and above the TAcenta, the following:
Leather seats
Heated seats
Heated steering wheel
Bose audio
All round camera
Bigger and nicer alloys

Yes to all the above and add LED lights.
I think the Tekna/SVE also has tinted rear windows and electric folding mirrors which the Acenta/SV doesn't have... could be wrong on that but I do know my Tekna has it.

goz83 · 23-06-2017 10:24am

I own a Tekna and Acenta. I can't say I've tested the audio too much though. What I love the most about Tekna, is the 360 view camera. Not that I have ever had a problem parking, but when reverse parking into a supermarket spot, you can can bang on between the lines and right to the kerb/pole/wall with no effort. When driving straight into the driveway, I tap the camera button and the front camera displays so I can get within a couple of mill of the other car without worrying I might make contact. It makes the manouvres much easier.

And of course, I think it looks a lot nicer. I was parked beside a grey acenta yesterday. Both cars were identical on the exterior.....chrome pack and all. But the 17" rims just blew the other car away.

goz83 · 23-06-2017 10:25am

KCross wrote: »

Yes to all the above and add LED lights.

My Acenta has the LED lights already

I have ordered the LED drls now.

Orebro · 23-06-2017 10:28am

Depends what your priorities are I guess. For me, I don't like alloys bigger than 16" because of ride quality, the extra meat in the 16" soaks up Irish roads better imho. That and the 17" tyres are a good bit more expensive. I wouldn't say no to the 360 camera though - very cool!

KCross · 23-06-2017 10:35am

goz83 wrote: »

What I love the most about Tekna, is the 360 view camera. Not that I have ever had a problem parking, but when reverse parking into a supermarket spot, you can can bang on between the lines and right to the kerb/pole/wall with no effort. When driving straight into the driveway, I tap the camera button and the front camera displays so I can get within a couple of mill of the other car without worrying I might make contact. It makes the manouvres much easier.

And you can press the button one more time and it shows you the front left wheel (as the camera is built into the side mirror) so you can park right up against a kerb without scratching the alloy!

goz83 wrote: »

My Acenta has the LED lights already

Just to clarify though.... you added them yourself? The Accent doesn't have LED's from the factory.

goz83 · 23-06-2017 10:46am

Orebro wrote: »

Depends what your priorities are I guess. For me, I don't like alloys bigger than 16" because of ride quality, the extra meat in the 16" soaks up Irish roads better imho. That and the 17" tyres are a good bit more expensive. I wouldn't say no to the 360 camera though - very cool!

Buy a Tekna. You'll have your 360 camera and I will swap the wheels with my acenta for you

The acenta does have a notciceable difference, where the ride is softer, but the Tekna feels much sportier because it's firmer. I like them equally.....just the price difference in tyres is crappy.

KCross wrote: »

And you can press the button one more time and it shows you the front left wheel (as the camera is built into the side mirror) so you can park right up against a kerb without scratching the alloy!

in my case, I use it to get close the wall and right uo to the CP.

KCross wrote: »

Just to clarify though.... you added them yourself? The Accent doesn't have LED's from the factory.

Someone else added them, but I would have done so anyway.

isnottheword · 23-06-2017 10:47am

KCross wrote: »

I think the Tekna/SVE also has tinted rear windows and electric folding mirrors which the Acenta/SV doesn't have... could be wrong on that but I do know my Tekna has it.

The Acenta/SV has tinted rear windows and electric folding mirrors.

DrPhilG · 23-06-2017 11:03am

Note though, the folding mirrors are button operated rather than automatic when you turn the car off.

You can get a kit to make them do it automatically I believe but it's a few hundred quid.

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