Nissan Leaf

Batesy

It was odd. Got the error when I turned off the car last night and was dreading this morning but all was well.

I think it’s either to do with the 12v battery or the transmission.

Anyone struggle to put it into gear on startup? I take a few attempts to get it to select.

ELM327

Thats a 12v issue, I had it a few months ago.
Charged the battery overnight on a trickle charger and its been fine since

NIMAN

When you use the heated steering wheel and heated seats, does the power come from the 12v battery or the car's main batteries?

Orebro

Yip I've seen that error come up a few times on other forums - problem was the 12v battery on all of them

cros13

NIMAN wrote: »

When you use the heated steering wheel and heated seats, does the power come from the 12v battery or the car's main batteries?

12V

The three things running off the 400V system are the motor, Heat Pump/AC and a DC-DC converter that runs occasionally to charge the 12V system

NIMAN

cros13 wrote: »

12V

The three things running off the 400V system are the motor, Heat Pump/AC and a DC-DC converter that runs occasionally to charge the 12V system

Would long term use of all the heated things kill the 12v battery quickly?

The OH loves her heat and tends to have them on anytime she's in the car

DrPhilG

NIMAN wrote: »

Would long term use of all the heated things kill the 12v battery quickly?

The OH loves her heat and tends to have them on anytime she's in the car

The heated seat on my wife's side is permanently on full blast.

And in this weather my side is also usually on low.

Heated steering wheel usually only in the morning preheat though.

One thing I miss in the I3 is that the heated seats do not come on with the timer and there's no heated steering but on the + side the seats warm up a lot faster than the Leaf seats from cold.

unkel

Heated steering bejaysus who needs that in this country? :rolleyes:

How long does it take for the seats to warm up in Leaf and i3? I guess it takes about 20-30s in Ioniq from memory, but I would have to measure it a bit more scientifically to be sure. The heating system in Ioniq is pretty awesome with it using 7kW to heat your frozen car. That said, my range these days when fully charged at home with the heat at full blast during this very cold spell is displayed as 205km without aircon and only 175km with it! :eek:

ELM327

unkel wrote: »

Heated steering bejaysus who needs that in this country? :rolleyes:

How long does it take for the seats to warm up in Leaf and i3? I guess it takes about 20-30s in Ioniq from memory, but I would have to measure it a bit more scientifically to be sure. The heating system in Ioniq is pretty awesome with it using 7kW to heat your frozen car. That said, my range these days when fully charged at home with the heat at full blast during this very cold spell is displayed as 205km without aircon and only 175km with it! :eek:

All well and good for an Ioniq owner to say that!
It saves me range on my 24kWh leaf as for my 55km commute I don't really need to use the heater, if I use the combination of preheat to 30 degrees and heated seats + wheel. On the off chance I need the heater on a really cold day I can set it to auto and 22 degrees, after a preheat, it doesnt take much energy.

Needs must in a 24kWh leaf!

NIMAN wrote: »

Would long term use of all the heated things kill the 12v battery quickly?

The OH loves her heat and tends to have them on anytime she's in the car

No I have not seen any issue in my 12v battery, it's still on the same "Renault Nissan" branded one that came with the car. I have the heated seats and heated wheel permanently on. There's no noticeable impact on range/12v.

goz83

The OH had a flat tyre the other evening. 4 kids in the car. I drove to the location and used the tyre sealant. It didn’t work at all. The whole bottle of sealant just oozed out onto the footpath. Either the hole was too big, or the sealant was gone off. Checking the date, it had 2014 on it. So it only lasts for 2 years?

Got a flat bed and delivered to the local Atlas and had a new tyre fit the next morning. Divanti 16”. €80

Having no spare is the biggest flaw with the Leaf.

KCross

goz83 wrote: »

The OH had a flat tyre the other evening. 4 kids in the car. I drove to the location and used the tyre sealant. It didn’t work at all. The whole bottle of sealant just oozed out onto the footpath. Either the hole was too big, or the sealant was gone off. Checking the date, it had 2014 on it. So it only lasts for 2 years?

Got a flat bed and delivered to the local Atlas and had a new tyre fit the next morning. Divanti 16”. €80

Having no spare is the biggest flaw with the Leaf.

You can buy one of those space savers or a full sized wheel. I went the full sized wheel route as I didn't want to be speed restricted with the space saver.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=103238261&postcount=79

I've used it more than once now so its money well spent!

ELM327

goz83 wrote: »

The OH had a flat tyre the other evening. 4 kids in the car. I drove to the location and used the tyre sealant. It didn’t work at all. The whole bottle of sealant just oozed out onto the footpath. Either the hole was too big, or the sealant was gone off. Checking the date, it had 2014 on it. So it only lasts for 2 years?

Got a flat bed and delivered to the local Atlas and had a new tyre fit the next morning. Divanti 16”. €80

Having no spare is the biggest flaw with the Leaf.

Agreed.
I bought a spare wheel (space saver) from Phil in Electric Autos, as I had the ignominy of being stuck at the side of the road.
As it turns out I've used the spare twice since so it was well worth the small outlay!

goz83

The problem is storing it. When the kids are in the car, the boot is packed. That was true on this occasion. There was a stroller and a bunch of bags as they were coming back from swimming. A space saver wouldn’t have fit unless a bag, or two went into the passenger footwell.

Though it might be something we have to live with, so getting spares really should be the priority.....although I would still have to drive out and change the bloody thing.

Orebro

KCross wrote: »

You can buy one of those space savers or a full sized wheel. I went the full sized wheel route as I didn't want to be speed restricted with the space saver.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=103238261&postcount=79

I've used it more than once now so its money well spent!

That's very interesting - would like to do something like this myself.

How do you secure it? In the event of a crash, would something like this have to potential to become a projectile into the cabin if it wasn't screwed down properly like in other cars?

KCross

goz83 wrote: »

The problem is storing it. When the kids are in the car, the boot is packed. That was true on this occasion. There was a stroller and a bunch of bags as they were coming back from swimming. A space saver wouldn’t have fit unless a bag, or two went into the passenger footwell.

Though it might be something we have to live with, so getting spares really should be the priority.....although I would still have to drive out and change the bloody thing.

Just keep the spare at home, thats what I do. Its not going to be a common occurrence and when it happens again you will probably still get the call to come out and change it unless your wife is good for swinging off a spanner?!

So, just leave the wheel at home and organise to get it brought to the car when you need it. It will save you the flatbed. If you happen to be doing a longer journey then throw it in and dont forget to put in a jack as well 'cause the Leaf doesn't come with one of those either!

goz83

KCross wrote: »

Just keep the spare at home, thats what I do. Its not going to be a common occurrence and when it happens again you will probably still get the call to come out and change it unless your wife is good for swinging off a spanner?!

So, just leave the wheel at home and organise to get it brought to the car when you need it. It will save you the flatbed. If you happen to be doing a longer journey then throw it in and dont forget to put in a jack as well 'cause the Leaf doesn't come with one of those either!

Yeah, that’s what i’ll do. But the Leaf does have a jack. I used it the other night. It’s stored in the side panel of thenboot with the compressor. Thats the 2012 Leaf. And the way it was stored tells leads me to believe it came with the car.

ELM327

Hmm. Mine doesn't come with a jack or even a place where one would be stored.
Perhaps it's the gen1 (japanese) leafs that come with it only.

KCross

goz83 wrote: »

Yeah, that’s what i’ll do. But the Leaf does have a jack. I used it the other night. It’s stored in the side panel of thenboot with the compressor. Thats the 2012 Leaf. And the way it was stored tells leads me to believe it came with the car.

Not mine. I bought mine as an ex-demo so I doubt they removed the jack.

ELM327 wrote: »

Hmm. Mine doesn't come with a jack or even a place where one would be stored.
Perhaps it's the gen1 (japanese) leafs that come with it only.

That might be it.

goz83

There is a brace attached to the rear quarter panel. The jack is secured to the brace by closing it fully, inserting into the brace and then opening the brace until it is self secured.

I don't think my 2012 Leaf is a Jap model. I test drove a Jap model in Airside and the buttons were Japanese. My car has nothing in Japanese. The service history from the start also has no japanese garages mentioned

My 2014 UK Leaf also has this brace (I just checked) but is missing the jack. It takes a scissor jack.

Now it is possible that someone put the scissor jack into the 2012 Leaf, but it didn't appear to have anything disturbed until I took it out the other night.

ELM327

goz83 wrote: »

There is a brace attached to the rear quarter panel. The jack is secured to the brace by closing it fully, inserting into the brace and then opening the brace until it is self secured.

I don't think my 2012 Leaf is a Jap model. I test drove a Jap model in Airside and the buttons were Japanese. My car has nothing in Japanese. The service history from the start also has no japanese garages mentioned

My 2014 UK Leaf also has this brace (I just checked) but is missing the jack. It takes a scissor jack.

Now it is possible that someone put the scissor jack into the 2012 Leaf, but it didn't appear to have anything disturbed until I took it out the other night.

When I say jap model I mean gen1 leaf, ie not gen 1.5 built in the UK but 2013 and before, built in Japan.
If your leaf is a 2012, it's a japanese leaf.

I can tell you my leaf has no section for any wheel brace, let alone a wheel brace or jack.

goz83

ELM327 wrote: »

When I say jap model I mean gen1 leaf, ie not gen 1.5 built in the UK but 2013 and before, built in Japan.
If your leaf is a 2012, it's a japanese leaf.

I can tell you my leaf has no section for any wheel brace, let alone a wheel brace or jack.

Ah yes, I get what you mean now.

So the 2012 is a Jap Leaf and the 2014 is UK. Both have the brace for the Jack. I would be very surprised if yours didn't. Open the boot, unclip the trim on the left where the compressor is stored. There is a bracket in the centre which protudes out by about 4-5cm and has 1cm "L" bend down. Under that bracket is a shelf where the jack sits.

ELM327

goz83 wrote: »

Ah yes, I get what you mean now.

So the 2012 is a Jap Leaf and the 2014 is UK. Both have the brace for the Jack. I would be very surprised if yours didn't. Open the boot, unclip the trim on the left where the compressor is stored. There is a bracket in the centre which protudes out by about 4-5cm and has 1cm "L" bend down. Under that bracket is a shelf where the jack sits.

Mine's a 2014 UK import, and does not have anything in that.
I have a section of the boot that removes, and what looks like where a wheel brace and jack could have been clipped but there isnt anything there in mine.
I don't know if mine was removed - perhaps on the way over from the UK? - or didnt come with one in the first place, but in either case I don't have one

goz83

ELM327 wrote: »

Mine's a 2014 UK import, and does not have anything in that.
I have a section of the boot that removes, and what looks like where a wheel brace and jack could have been clipped but there isnt anything there in mine.
I don't know if mine was removed - perhaps on the way over from the UK? - or didnt come with one in the first place, but in either case I don't have one

I see. My 2014 UK Leaf is only missing the Jack. It has the compressor and fluid (the fluid apparently costs a fortune and is only in date for 2 years). There is a toolkit with a wheel brace, a towing hook and funnily enough, the jack bar.

DrPhilG

I have a 141 UK import. Had the crappy fluid (had to use it recently and it poured straight out the hole) but no jack. I bought one along with a space saver wheel that I have built into a false boot floor that holds all my cables and extension lead etc.

goz83

DrPhilG wrote: »

I have a 141 UK import. Had the crappy fluid (had to use it recently and it poured straight out the hole) but no jack. I bought one along with a space saver wheel that I have built into a false boot floor that holds all my cables and extension lead etc.

I have that project in mind alright. More so for neat storage of cables.

NIMAN

Whilst on the subject of tyres, what are the top recommendations for Leaf tyres?

Obviously the main consideration on an EV is a low drag tyre?

KCross

goz83 wrote: »

Having no spare is the biggest flaw with the Leaf.

KCross wrote: »

You can buy one of those space savers or a full sized wheel. I went the full sized wheel route as I didn't want to be speed restricted with the space saver.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=103238261&postcount=79

I've used it more than once now so its money well spent!

Apparently Juke alloys fit the Leaf as well and a few 17" being sold here at a reasonable price
https://speakev.com/threads/leaf-wheels.89305/#post-1581305

quenching

KCross wrote: »

Apparently Juke alloys fit the Leaf as well and a few 17" being sold here at a reasonable price
https://speakev.com/threads/leaf-wheels.89305/#post-1581305

Interesting, anyone have any idea what full size wheel fits a Leaf Acenta with standard spec wheels, like these:
https://ie-i.atcdn.co.uk/imgser-ie/servlet/media?id=44782400-d4f7-4ee2-af99-8562be293006&width=640&height=480

NIMAN

Anyone know the fitting for a Nissan Leaf space saver wheel?

I know it's 5 stud, but I'm guessing all brands have different spacing etc.

Would this be a possibility?

https://www.gumtree.com/p/wheel-rims-tyres/vauxhall-vectra-space-saver-spare-wheel/1279847381