Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015

Adamocovic

astradave wrote: »

Spotted this on twitter.. Simon stone reporting it

https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/631076911544971265

Don't toy with my emotions..I just can't handle it

RayCun

bucketybuck wrote: »

Mourinho by all reports is adored by the vast majority of the players he works with

Go tell them in Madrid

If the manager has teams doing a lot of fitness work, and the team is winning, most players will say they're happy and credit the coach with giving them the strength to win
If the manager has teams do the same work and they're losing, players will complain about being run into the ground, not doing enough with the ball, etc etc

Every manager will have some players in the squad who like him, some who don't, and a lots in the middle. If Van Gaal's tactics and selections work, the players who don't get to play will be unhappy, everyone else will be content. If they don't work, players who think they're being played out of position, or have to play to a plan they don't like, will start complaining.

Trigger

Didn't LVG state after the match that he was unhappy with the performance and that some of the young lads would get a chance in the next match. I might be imagining it

Adamocovic

duffman13 wrote: »

Be interesting to see how Blind copes with Gestede if both Start on Friday night. Gestede is a nuisance and could cause us all sorts of problems if we are not on our game. Villa seem weak enough though, should be an opportunity to dominate possession and Sherwood I hope wont park the bus. Could be a good open game!

Should be interesting, think Villas midfield looked poor but that Clark and Richards looks like a promising partnership. Hard to read much from one game against Bournemouth however.

A win is a must.

homerjay2005

astradave wrote: »

Didn't LVG state after the match that he was unhappy with the performance and that some of the young lads would get a chance in the next match. I might be imagining it

i think things will be changed on friday with the game tuesday in mind.

the extra 8-10 games this year means LVG will have to try things and give lads a chance.

the only concern is that we lack squad depth to try these things in several positions, once injuries set in.

wouldnt be surprised to see Mcnair get a run out in the next week though hopefully Rojos time on the bold step is nearing an end.

irishfeen

If DeGea is forced to stay then fair fùcks to the club and LVG.. Name a price, if Real don't pay it then they can look elsewhere.

MagicIRL

When I think of a Van Gaal United team, basing this solely on his previous season at the club, and the transfers he has brought in, I think of a team that will be very, very hard to score against. I think LvG wants to shore up his defence and then build an attack from it.

The first step is obviously possession. If your opponent can't have the ball they can't score against you. The second is having quality defensive players who will work as a unit as opposed to individual players. Darmian and Smalling are the prime examples here, with Shaw yet to make an impression due to this being his first "real" season with the club assuming he remains injury free.

The midfield is set up to protect the back four as opposed to attack the opposition, but you would assume LvG wants a pacey player (Like Di Maria/Depay) in that midfield to launch an attack.

Honestly, if United played with an Ashley Young who hit his target 8/10 times, and a more traditional winger on the other side, I reckon you would see a much better performance.

I think, once the defence is guaranteed, we'll see a more aggresive approach with attack. I hope.

Mantis Toboggan

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

No he hasn't. He was never this.

Some people have short memories :rolleyes:

http://thepeoplesperson.com/2014/04/03/adnan-januzaj-named-the-best-young-footballer-in-the-world-41640/

bucketybuck

Do we really need to be rotating things in the 2nd game of the season, especially when its a Friday night game giving us extra recovery time before Tuesday?

Frankly I would rather we played our best team and maybe get them gelling together before the hugely important CL qualifier. Thats more important than worrying about fitness already.

Maximus Alexander

Dennis Reynolds wrote: »

Some people have short memories :rolleyes:

http://thepeoplesperson.com/2014/04/03/adnan-januzaj-named-the-best-young-footballer-in-the-world-41640/

Oh now that you mention it, your link has reminded me that I did once think Januzaj was the best young player in the world. :rolleyes:

bucketybuck

Dennis Reynolds wrote: »

Some people have short memories :rolleyes:

http://thepeoplesperson.com/2014/04/03/adnan-januzaj-named-the-best-young-footballer-in-the-world-41640/

Is that a joke post?

MagicMarker

Dennis Reynolds wrote: »

Some people have short memories :rolleyes:

http://thepeoplesperson.com/2014/04/03/adnan-januzaj-named-the-best-young-footballer-in-the-world-41640/

Adnan Januzaj has been rewarded for his fantastic breakthrough season with Manchester United by being named the top Under-20 footballer in the world by Gazzetta Dello Sport.

Gazzetta Dello Sport?

I'm out.

Backstreet Moyes

I think Depay is not on the left wing is because Young is disciplined defensively. LVG likes his full backs going forward so having Young allows Shaw get forward. I like Young he is ok but his final ball is just not good enough.

Anytime Depay looked good the weekend was when he was out wide and cutting in. Below is what i really would like Friday but i can't see it happening.

---

De Gea

---

----Darmian

---

Smalling

---

Rojo

---

Shaw

---

Schniederlen

---

Herrera

---

---

Janjuaz

---

Mata

---

Depay

---

---

Rooney

---

It works with Schneiderlen sitting deep and covering the full backs when they go forward, Herrera a bit more freedom and Mata dropping into midfield when defending.

This allows Depay and Janjuaz cut inside opening up space for the full backs to attack into and allows Mata play in his best position.

Trigger

Dennis Reynolds wrote: »

Some people have short memories :rolleyes:

http://thepeoplesperson.com/2014/04/03/adnan-januzaj-named-the-best-young-footballer-in-the-world-41640/

So an Italian Newspaper stated he was the top U20 player IN THEIR OPINION!

He did alright for us for a couple of games but there was no way that he was the best U20 player in the world at the time..

No chance
No
Just no

Cantona's Collars

astradave wrote: »

Spotted this on twitter.. Simon stone reporting it

https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/631076911544971265

Just 20 minutes before that they reported that Madrid had submitted a final bid.

dubmick

irishfeen wrote: »

If DeGea is forced to stay then fair fùcks to the club and LVG.. Name a price, if Real don't pay it then they can look elsewhere.

And then they get him for free next summer while we fork out 30 mil + for some inferior replacement. Real will be having the last laugh in this saga.

Adamocovic

bucketybuck wrote: »

Do we really need to be rotating things in the 2nd game of the season, especially when its a Friday night game giving us extra recovery time before Tuesday?

Frankly I would rather we played our best team and maybe get them gelling together before the hugely important CL qualifier. Thats more important than worrying about fitness already.

Well it's all just opinions really. The fact that we will have 5 games in the space of 16 days we will undoubtedly have to give players a rest at some points it's just when. Every game is important but I think a good result is crucial in the first leg against Bruges as then it would allow players to be rested in the second leg.

I wouldn't be surprised to see VG try mix it up a bit on Friday. We have a lot of games this season and will rely on the whole squd, might be good to get a some of the lads who will see themselves getting chances a competitive game under their belt now on Friday to get them up to speed while every other team isn't yet rather than to throw them out there when other teams are hitting stride.

Adamocovic

dubmick wrote: »

And then they get him for free next summer while we fork out 30 mil + for some inferior replacement. Real will be having the last laugh in this saga.

I'd rather he goes for free next window and we have from now until then to decide who to bring in and buy them early in the window than let him part now for 20 odd million and just buy whatever keeper is available.

Keeping De Gea in my eyes would be brilliant and lead to us finishing higher than if he goes now.

Adamocovic

Nuts102 wrote: »

I think Depay is not on the left wing is because Young is disciplined defensively. LVG likes his full backs going forward so having Young allows Shaw get forward. I like Young he is ok but his final ball is just not good enough.

Anytime Depay looked good the weekend was when he was out wide and cutting in. Below is what i really would like Friday but i can't see it happening.

---

De Gea

---

----Darmian

---

Smalling

---

Rojo

---

Shaw

---

Schniederlen

---

Herrera

---

---

Janjuaz

---

Mata

---

Depay

---

---

Rooney

---

It works with Schneiderlen sitting deep and covering the full backs when they go forward, Herrera a bit more freedom and Mata dropping into midfield when defending.

This allows Depay and Janjuaz cut inside opening up space for the full backs to attack into and allows Mata play in his best position.

+1 would be absolutely chuffed to see that team

Mitch Connor

Seems like the Pedro saga will be ending 'soon' according to reports.

I'm betting he stays at Barca with 'assurances' over his playing time - it simply doesn't look like United are that interested in, been 3 weeks or so of 'imminent' talk, but seemingly we haven't spoken to Barca about him at all (if you believe what they are saying publicly)

Cantona's Collars

dubmick wrote: »

And then they get him for free next summer while we fork out 30 mil + for some inferior replacement. Real will be having the last laugh in this saga.

De Gea could be the difference again this season when it comes to where we finish in the league,the new prize money is massive and that would negate any loss we'd be perceived to make by letting him go for nothing next season.

Adamocovic

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Seems like the Pedro saga will be ending 'soon' according to reports.

I'm betting he stays at Barca with 'assurances' over his playing time - it simply doesn't look like United are that interested in, been 3 weeks or so of 'imminent' talk, but seemingly we haven't spoken to Barca about him at all (if you believe what they are saying publicly)

We're just playing it cool, sitting away from him batting our eyelashes and hoping he makes the move

Mantis Toboggan

astradave wrote: »

So an Italian Newspaper stated he was the top U20 player IN THEIR OPINION!

He did alright for us for a couple of games but there was no way that he was the best U20 player in the world at the time..

No chance
No
Just no

Yeah, proves my point of him being one of the best young players around at the time. Any who point was that he's gradually got worse under LVG.

Cantona's Collars

https://twitter.com/SkySportsNewsHQ/status/631083365215678464

He will forever be remembered fondly at Old Trafford after the miracle of Crystanbul.

v3ttel

We have a huge amount of regular contributors to this thread who are excellent, but are being overwhelmed by the increasing amount of muck posted in here, such as:

- Schweinsteiger is a bad signing (lets bring back Cleverley and Anderson)

- Schweinsteiger isn't fit because Pep said so (says the manager, who co-incidentally said that after a huge publish backlash from the Bayern fans for letting him go)

- LVG doesn't know what he is doing (lets ignore his track record of success which would indicate he is a rather competent manager)

- Ex-players don't like him (let's ignore that he is the reason we've signed Blind, Memphis, Schweinsteiger, Valdes, Romero who have all worked with him before and decided to join him again)

- I think the best of the lot was Arsenal being held up as a bastion of great football, and how much better they are than us....literally an hour before they lose 0-2 to West Ham at home. (BTW, if one game doesn't matter, then what's with the massive outcry in here after Saturday?)

- We're the only squad that has gaps (when Chelsea only have 5 first team defenders at the club)

And yet, for all the bad and the fact that the world nearly ended, we're 3 points ahead of Arsenal and 2 ahead of Chelsea with surely 1 or 2 more signings to come to plug the gaps. I can only imagine what happens when we lose our first game. This place will be a no go zone.

pmasterson95

v3ttel wrote: »

We have a huge amount of regular contributors to this thread who are excellent, but are being overwhelmed by the increasing amount of muck posted in here, such as:

- Schweinsteiger is a bad signing (lets bring back Cleverley and Anderson)

- Schweinsteiger isn't fit because Pep said so (says the manager, who co-incidentally said that after a huge publish backlash from the Bayern fans for letting him go)

- LVG doesn't know what he is doing (lets ignore his track record of success which would indicate he is a rather competent manager)

- Ex-players don't like him (let's ignore that he is the reason we've signed Blind, Memphis, Schweinsteiger, Valdes, Romero who have all worked with him before and decided to join him again)

- I think the best of the lot was Arsenal being held up as a bastion of great football, and how much better they are than us....literally an hour before they lose 0-2 to West Ham at home. (BTW, if one game doesn't matter, then what's with the massive outcry in here after Saturday?)

- We're the only squad that has gaps (when Chelsea only have 5 first team defenders at the club)

And yet, for all the bad and the fact that the world nearly ended, we're 3 points ahead of Arsenal and 2 ahead of Chelsea with surely 1 or 2 more signings to come to plug the gaps. I can only imagine what happens when we lose our first game. This place will be a no go zone.

Ah now theres too much logic here. There should be spoiler tags used or something. You cant overload the hysterics like this v3ttel they could go into shock seeing so much of their **** torn apart at once.

bucketybuck

v3ttel wrote: »

We have a huge amount of regular contributors to this thread who are excellent, but are being overwhelmed by the increasing amount of muck posted in here, such as:

- Schweinsteiger is a bad signing (lets bring back Cleverley and Anderson)

- Schweinsteiger isn't fit because Pep said so (says the manager, who co-incidentally said that after a huge publish backlash from the Bayern fans for letting him go)

- LVG doesn't know what he is doing (lets ignore his track record of success which would indicate he is a rather competent manager)

- Ex-players don't like him (let's ignore that he is the reason we've signed Blind, Memphis, Schweinsteiger, Valdes, Romero who have all worked with him before and decided to join him again)

- I think the best of the lot was Arsenal being held up as a bastion of great football, and how much better they are than us....literally an hour before they lose 0-2 to West Ham at home. (BTW, if one game doesn't matter, then what's with the massive outcry in here after Saturday?)

- We're the only squad that has gaps (when Chelsea only have 5 first team defenders at the club)

And yet, for all the bad and the fact that the world nearly ended, we're 3 points ahead of Arsenal and 2 ahead of Chelsea with surely 1 or 2 more signings to come to plug the gaps. I can only imagine what happens when we lose our first game. This place will be a no go zone.

As usual this is a complete misrepresentation of what those discussions actually entailed.

Cantona's Collars

Real Madrid are determined to sign David De Gea this summer and that's why Florentino Pérez and his board have offered €25 million + Keylor Navas for the Spanish goalkeeper. Manchester United made it clear to Madrid that they will not sell De Gea for less than €40 million but that new offer could make them change their mind, according to La Sexta.

Keylor Navas would be on his way out of the club if Madrid complete the signing of De Gea anyway, because he wants to play.

http://www.managingmadrid.com/2015/8/11/9130133/real-madrid-manchester-united-de-gea-keylor-navas

Mitch Connor

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Ah now theres too much logic here. There should be spoiler tags used or something. You cant overload the hysterics like this v3ttel they could go into shock seeing so much of their **** torn apart at once.

Its sh1tty posts like these that are the worst on the thread.

Deriding anyone not 100% supportive of the club and everything about it as illogical moronic children; by exaggerating what was actually said to the point of parody.

I've critised the football LVG has us play - based on the previous season, pre-season and the Spurs game it is a perfectly valid criticism. Yes, 3 points vs Spurs was the goal, and great, but only creating one shot on target in 90mins at home has to be a concern for ANY side playing ANY opposition. Why is it so difficult to understand people were now wowed by the performance vs Spurs?

Yes, there are some arguments that I think are stupid and some I disagree with people on - but for feck sake, to take a position that everything is rosey and brilliant and anyone thinking otherwise is a simpleton is a real w@nker position to take.

Adamocovic

In a more lighthearted story for the day, Bastian looks like he wants to take Rooney and the boys with him to Oktoberfest:

"I spoke to [Wayne] Rooney and discussed the possibility of me inviting the team to Oktoberfest but I don’t know how much time we’ll have"

Apparently he also said it comes down to what VG says :pac:

I think it could be the team bonding we need, I want televised footage of a United vs Bayern drinking competition! :pac:

source:http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/bastian-schweinsteiger-hoping-to-take-manchester-united-players-to-oktoberfest-10447905.html

pmasterson95

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Its sh1tty posts like these that are the worst on the thread.

Deriding anyone not 100% supportive of the club and everything about it as illogical moronic children; by exaggerating what was actually said to the point of parody.

I've critised the football LVG has us play - based on the previous season, pre-season and the Spurs game it is a perfectly valid criticism. Yes, 3 points vs Spurs was the goal, and great, but only creating one shot on target in 90mins at home has to be a concern for ANY side playing ANY opposition. Why is it so difficult to understand people were now wowed by the performance vs Spurs?

Yes, there are some arguments that I think are stupid and some I disagree with people on - but for feck sake, to take a position that everything is rosey and brilliant and anyone thinking otherwise is a simpleton is a real w@nker position to take.

Well then its a good thing I dont agree 100% nor do I think everything is rosey. I just dont believe in the whole harbinger of doom approach either where everything is wrong and everything is ****. I can be dissapointed with how we played without deciding LVG is totally incompetent and we are doomed to fail.

Mitch Connor

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Well then its a good thing I dont agree 100% nor do I think everything is rosey. I just dont believe in the whole harbinger of doom approach either where everything is wrong and everything is ****. I can be dissapointed with how we played without deciding LVG is totally incompetent and we are doomed to fail.

So what was with the 'you'll need spolier tags to protect their minds' crap about then, eh?

DM_7

zerks wrote: »

Just 20 minutes before that they reported that Madrid had submitted a final bid.

I think that was just a line from the gossip page to promote that page rather than a BBC report.

Trigger

DM_7 wrote: »

I think that was just a line from the gossip page to promote that page rather than a BBC report.

Yep, basically just quoting the Star and ABC reports

https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/631072293234573312

In other reports, mendes has told Roma that Garay has an agreement with Valencia, meaning that Otamendi is on the way out. To who, know one knows, but obviously he is being linked to us again

bucketybuck

Mitch Connor wrote: »

So what was with the 'you'll need spolier tags to protect their minds' crap about then, eh?

There are some people who want to discuss issues relating to the club and the manager, good or bad. Then there are those who prefer to snark about other posters within the thread. I know which I prefer.

pmasterson95

Mitch Connor wrote: »

So what was with the 'you'll need spolier tags to protect their minds' crap about then, eh?

To protect those delicate flowers who believe that crap. Jaysus didnt think it was that complicated to comprehend.

Adamocovic

Trigger

Some lighthearted news

Daley cut his hair up... :eek:
https://twitter.com/BlindDaley/status/631096827996192768

pmasterson95

astradave wrote: »

Some lighthearted news

Daley cut his hair up... :eek:
https://twitter.com/BlindDaley/status/631096827996192768

Feat. Ander & Juan

Adamocovic

astradave wrote: »

Some lighthearted news

Daley cut his hair up... :eek:
https://twitter.com/BlindDaley/status/631096827996192768

Bold move by Daley, let's see if it pays off

UnitedIrishman

v3ttel wrote: »

We have a huge amount of regular contributors to this thread who are excellent, but are being overwhelmed by the increasing amount of muck posted in here, such as...

Kerrydude1981

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Feat. Ander & Juan

And Marlo Stanfield

Cantona's Collars

https://twitter.com/VCF_Nordic/status/631091454350356480

MagicIRL

Otamendi is this years Vidal, who was last years Sjnieder, who was... and so on and so on.

Brendan Flowers

Isn't Garay's preferred position on the left side of central defence...or am I mistaken? Any reason why he hasn't been linked with Utd this summer? The rumours were very strong before he joined Zenit and I had expected them to start up once again.

Adamocovic

I'll be honest I'm quite fed up of all the twitter stuff, more than not it's just nonsense. I have nothing against people liking it and posting it and understand it's some news or rumours and more interesting than nothing but jaysus there is some brown posted by most of the people on it. I have no idea who most of these twitter users are posting this stuff.

I'm half tempted to create a twitter account and start spouting off rubbish and see if the likes of Metro, Star and Mirror carry the story.

Maybe I'm losing touch..

Trigger

Adamocovic wrote: »

I'll be honest I'm quite fed up of all the twitter stuff, more than not it's just nonsense. I have nothing against people liking it and posting it and understand it's some news or rumours and more interesting than nothing but jaysus there is some brown posted by most of the people on it. I have no idea who most of these twitter users are posting this stuff.

I'm half tempted to create a twitter account and start spouting off rubbish and see if the likes of Metro, Star and Mirror carry the story.

Maybe I'm losing touch..

Most of the twitter handles that you wouldn't know would be of people who translate the reports to English.. Omar is one of the most well known ones as he translates all the DiMarzio articles and because of that has a good following.

That said if you don't move with the technology you will get left behind.. Embrace it, follow the path to the dark side :pac:

UnitedIrishman

With regards to Villa on Friday, can't see many changes in the setup. Would hope Rojo comes in for Blind but depends how far off he is.

Villa played 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 as well last weekend so the chances of us changing our shape is doubtful.

Cantona's Collars

As I said before,we aren't getting a shred of news from OT so we are depending on leaks and tidbits from selling clubs about any potential signings.
We all know the way this works,if nobody posted any gossip we'd just have even more pages of posters bickering with each other because we didn't win 15-0 at the weekend.

Adamocovic

astradave wrote: »

That said if you don't move with the technology you will get left behind.. Embrace it, follow the path to the dark side :pac:

I think it's too late for me..



EDIT: Well that gif just killed itself :L