Driver Cyclist arguement with a brilliant ending NSFW or kids

Nekarsulm

Excellent example of "street theatre", and a lot funnier than most !

whupdedo

John_Rambo wrote: »

Sorry if this is up there, and sorry it's not embedded. Watch till the end. It's beautiful.

http://lovindublin.com/feature/watch-this-driver-fall-on-his-face-after-trying-to-kick-a-cyclist-off-his-bike



... why drivers should wear helmets.

You seem to be in agreement with the cyclist as to who was at fault in this video , if you are, it says quite a bit about your personality and the type of guy you are , maybe a bad driver nearly hit you or you have other unresolved issues but this cyclist was a complete Cnut and I was hoping the driver was going to give him a good kicking, but the big pansy hadn't the balls to get off his bike , the driver was a tit too btw

ymclynn

TBH the road was very narrow and he was in the middle of the road, also when he turned left, he went really close to the pedestrian walking across the road.

I tried cycling once but tbh was nearly squashed by a bus so decided to take the car safer. I do give safe distance though when passing a cyclist but get mad as hell when I see them without a helmet on, and those fe**ing coca cola bikes, once passed an idiot who jumped the lights turning right from Washington Street onto Grand Parade, with a small baby strapped to the back of her.

We all need to be responsible road users both cyclists and motor vehicles

John_Rambo

whupdedo wrote: »

You seem to be in agreement with the cyclist as to who was at fault in this video , if you are, it says quite a bit about your personality and the type of guy you are , maybe a bad driver nearly hit you or you have other unresolved

I just put the link up, apologised that it wasn't embedded in a friendly amused way.

Read my opening post again. This time read it really slowly and concentrate. Make sure there's nobody distracting you and you've given it 100% of your attention. If you did this the first time you probably wouldn't have put such a stupid, moronic, dimwitted post up.

roadrunner16

kick gets 7/10 ,

the form was good but he didn't stick the landing

Darkglasses

whupdedo wrote: »

You seem to be in agreement with the cyclist as to who was at fault in this video , if you are, it says quite a bit about your personality and the type of guy you are , maybe a bad driver nearly hit you or you have other unresolved issues but this cyclist was a complete Cnut and I was hoping the driver was going to give him a good kicking, but the big pansy hadn't the balls to get off his bike , the driver was a tit too btw

John_Rambo wrote: »

I just put the link up, apologised that it wasn't embedded in a friendly amused way.

Read my opening post again. This time read it really slowly and concentrate. Make sure there's nobody distracting you and you've given it 100% of your attention. If you did this the first time you probably wouldn't have put such a stupid, moronic, dimwitted post up.

Keep a civil tone with each other from here on.

pablo128

I wonder did that twat on the bike ever get a dig in the mouth for provoking motorists, and did he post it on Youtube.

I'll bet he has gotten a slap or two, and the video will never see the light of day.

T-K-O

pablo128 wrote: »

I wonder did that twat on the bike ever get a dig in the mouth for provoking motorists, and did he post it on Youtube.

I'll bet he has gotten a slap or two, and the video will never see the light of day.

I wouldn't imagine so and that is why he's still at it.. I'll bet that slap is in his future

barney 20v

Is this the cyclist who posts regular videos of this type of nonsense on youtube?
looks very very familiar....

QuinDixie

RainyDay wrote: »

Oh right, same definition then. Perhaps you missed the start of the video where the driver drove within a couple of inches of the cyclist's handlebars, then abused him for not wearing a helmet (not legally required) while he was not wearing a seatbelt (legally required) himself, then FFF-d and blinded for a bit - does this not constitute 'bring about or initiate'?


Probably because that would do nothing to change the driver's driving.


Yep, those things can happen, though they are very unlikely to happen in reality. In your world, what are the things that get your goat enough for you to speak up - the person who pushed into the ATM queue or till queue ahead of you? Or the person who abuses their wife or child in public? Or the person who drops their litter or lets their dog take a dump on your lawn? What are your triggers for speaking up?

Lets stick with reality, if the cyclist felt there was dangerous driving, he should of went to the police with the video. There was no need to follow the motorist, nothing was solved by this action. We just got a very funny video.
Both cyclist and motorist come across as head cases.
Too much anger and hatred around, as you say yourself lets keep it real.

ricardo1

Six of one half a dozen of the other.

Came across this video of a cyclist dragging a toddler on a footpath. No argument here who's wrong.

The smirk and strut of him after the court case. Plonker.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-33743137

galwaycyclist

QuinDixie wrote: »

Lets stick with reality, if the cyclist felt there was dangerous driving, he should of went to the police with the video. There was no need to follow the motorist, nothing was solved by this action. We just got a very funny video.
Both cyclist and motorist come across as head cases.
Too much anger and hatred around, as you say yourself lets keep it real.

This is probably the nub of the issue. Arguably in the UK and Ireland we have police that are part of the problem rather than part of the solution.

So in the event of punishment passes etc there may be little point going to the police (or Guards) as they are as likely to to take the side of the driver.

The situation is a bit like being a lower caste victim of sexual assault in India or Pakistan.

So, it seems to me, we get some cyclists adopting a tactic of trying to create the impression - on the part of dangerous drivers - that the police "might" be inclined to.uphold the law.

The reality on the ground is that the police (garda) are often disinclined to uphold the law - video or no video. So its a game of bluff, but a game that provoked or generated by the absence of a credible police service.

tayto lover

galwaycyclist wrote: »

This is probably the nub of the issue. Arguably in the UK and Ireland we have police that are part of the problem rather than part of the solution.

So in the event of punishment passes etc there may be little point going to the police (or Guards) as they are as likely to to take the side of the driver.

The situation is a bit like being a lower caste victim of sexual assault in India or Pakistan.

So, it seems to me, we get some cyclists adopting a tactic of trying to create the impression - on the part of dangerous drivers - that the police "might" be inclined to.uphold the law.

The reality on the ground is that the police (garda) are often disinclined to uphold the law - video or no video. So its a game of bluff, but a game that provoked or generated by the absence of a credible police service.

If everyone behaved themselves and obeyed the laws of the land there'd be no need for police at all. These two prats didn't.

jimd2

I would be a driver mostly and occasional cyclist and do observe some irritating actions by cyclists at times.

However in this case the motorist comes over as waaaaaay more of a jerk than the cyclist. I would tend to give the cyclist the benefit of the doubt regarding his position on the road. He shouldnt have chased the driver but once again, when you feel that someone could have endangered your life well then you will react.

The fall at the end was quite funny and the driver would have been pretty sore afterwards. Maybe just maybe the cyclist should have mended fences and gone back to check if he was ok but perhaps not.

John_Rambo

tayto lover wrote: »

If everyone behaved themselves and obeyed the laws of the land there'd be no need for police at all.

Or no hilarious videos of morons.

Tenzor07

Ha! Well at least this happened!

The four minute footage ends with the middle aged man running down the street until he appears to trip over something.
He goes flying and fall, head-over-heels, into the road.
As well as his hurt pride, and most likely a few bruises, the driver will also have a criminal record.
Thames Valley Police confirmed they had investigated the incident and said that the motorist had been given a caution for a public order offence.

roadrunner16

T-K-O wrote: »

Cyclists at fault here, there was ample room for the bike. Typical modern behaviour, he felt entitled to harass the driver. What a muppet.

It won't be long before one of these go pro idiots gets seriously hurt.

I think he was trying to give room for a door that may be opened by a parked car. Could you imagine if a car was driving within less than half a meter of a parked car. It can be pretty un nerving if its happened to you before. Even if he was taking up too much space on the road, just wait for a safe opportunity to pass. It dosent usually take that long. I always find if I rush to over take a cyclist in a spot like that they end up passing me later anyway, two people in the video here in the wrong, one acting like a fool chasing a car down for no reason other than to antagonize , the other acting like a criminal !

WillyFXP

RainyDay wrote: »

Oh right, same definition then. Perhaps you missed the start of the video where the driver drove within a couple of inches of the cyclist's handlebars, then abused him for not wearing a helmet (not legally required) while he was not wearing a seatbelt (legally required) himself, then FFF-d and blinded for a bit - does this not constitute 'bring about or initiate'?

How can you say the driver drove within a couple of inches of the handlebars? At no point do you see the handlebars in the video. There would have been no incident "brought about or initiated" if the cyclist hadn't purposely followed him to confront him.

EagererBeaver

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Ha! Well at least this happened!

Where's that from? Caution does not equal having a criminal record.

pillphil

whupdedo wrote: »

You seem to be in agreement with the cyclist as to who was at fault in this video , if you are, it says quite a bit about your personality and the type of guy you are , maybe a bad driver nearly hit you or you have other unresolved issues but this cyclist was a complete Cnut and I was hoping the driver was going to give him a good kicking, but the big pansy hadn't the balls to get off his bike , the driver was a tit too btw

And this post says nothing about your personality?

JBokeh

I imagine a lot of these GoPro nutters are over reacting for the sake of making another video, I can't see any person that over reacts to that extent, over something relatively minor, being able to actually function properly. The cynic in me thinks this gets done for the sake of making a few pound from the youtube advertising, I read an article about people making a living from the youtube game.

The bit where Mr. Blobby fell on his hole was my favourite

roadrunner16

ricardo1 wrote: »

Six of one half a dozen of the other.

Came across this video of a cyclist dragging a toddler on a footpath. No argument here who's wrong.

The smirk and strut of him after the court case. Plonker.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-33743137

oh jesus that awful.... the smirk on his face made it all the worse...... really highlights the point that just because you aren't behind a wheel that you aren't a danger !!

robertpatterson

Ive looked at it a few rimes I cant see where he was buzzed by the car it looks to like theres loads of room
Its a narrow enough street, to me it appears the cyclist just gets off on this kind of thing im sure ive heard his voice before
The driver doesnt come out of it well you should never get out of your car for any confrontation imo
I laughed when the cyclist sh1t his pants at 2.20 'youre on camera youre on camera' when he thought he was going to get a dig
The kick was a good one too though made me laugh

Tenzor07

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Where's that from? Caution does not equal having a criminal record.

I don't write the news I just read it..

B.A._Baracus

The cyclist has over 150+ videos on his youtube account and are all the same pretty much. Him taking issue with drivers. >> https://www.youtube.com/user/uphillfreewheeler/videos

I think it's quite clear at this point that cycling is not his hobby. But going around with a camera looking for confrontations in which he can appear "correct" over others is. Just so happens the latter involves a bike :pac:

P1nkSheep

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Both absolute twats but:

a) the driver gave him plenty of room. You can see from the rear camera that he's four or five feet away from him and on the front camera that he was driving at the far right of the lane.

b) In his desire to make a show of things, the cyclist nearly snots several pedestrians, which nobody appears to make any mention of.

No way did that driver give him plenty of room, you should give cyclists the same amount of room to overtake as you would a car. That may seem a little extreme but that is the guidance I understand. Reason being is bikes may suddenly need to swerve out - potholes, broken surfaces etc.

My sister come off her bike and got seriously injured - a car overtook her far too close, forcing her in towards the kerb. She smacked her head on the edge of the kerb, the paramedic advised that wearing a helmet probably saved her life.

T-K-O

roadrunner16 wrote: »

I think he was trying to give room for a door that may be opened by a parked car. Could you imagine if a car was driving within less than half a meter of a parked car. It can be pretty un nerving if its happened to you before. Even if he was taking up too much space on the road, just wait for a safe opportunity to pass. It dosent usually take that long. I always find if I rush to over take a cyclist in a spot like that they end up passing me later anyway, two people in the video here in the wrong, one acting like a fool chasing a car down for no reason other than to antagonize , the other acting like a criminal !

If the idiot on the bike doesn't hunt him Down there is no criminal activity

My Mrs cycles a lot and I constantly worry about her on the road but this guy and his ilk and part of the problem not the solution

Mal-Adjusted

what frightens me is how angry the driver became and so fast, complete nut-job! As nobody else seems to, i might as well point out that he also parked on a double yellow line.

califano

mod snip - advocating violence is crossing the line.

EagererBeaver

Mal-Adjusted wrote: »

what frightens me is how angry the driver became and so fast, complete nut-job! As nobody else seems to, i might as well point out that he also parked on a double yellow line.

As a result of the confrontation ffs. Not as if he was parking up there for the afternoon. If you want to get picky, the cyclist heads off down the footpath that he shouldn't be on.

rubadub

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

The cyclist has over 150+ videos on his youtube account and are all the same pretty much...

I think it's quite clear at this point that cycling is not his hobby.

I wonder how much he makes off it. He has 1.3m hits for that video alone in a couple of days.

P1nkSheep wrote: »

My sister come off her bike and got seriously injured - a car overtook her far too close, forcing her in towards the kerb. She smacked her head on the edge of the kerb, the paramedic advised that wearing a helmet probably saved her life.

The helmet could have caused the crash, studies have shown people give more room when passing people without helmets.

In the other recent video I wondered if in guy would have been pushed off his bike if he had no helmet. Reminds me of school when shin pads and helmets came in, lads in bits due to the huge increase in crazy tackles "ah sure he's fully protected."

Nekarsulm

rubadub wrote: »

I wonder how much he makes off it. He has 1.3m hits for that video alone in a couple of days.
d."

The usual figure bandied about, is 2000 dollars for every million views.

Eamonnator

Nekarsulm wrote: »

The usual figure bandied about, is 2000 dollars for every million views.

I'm not going to watch it anymore, so.

RainyDay

stecleary wrote: »

It's not really, cyclist was a doors width away front the cars, driver went around him with out team cyclist not having to change his course I'd say there was room for two cars in between the parked cars. Plenty of room for a pass

'Plenty of room' eh?

ymclynn wrote: »

We all need to be responsible road users both cyclists and motor vehicles

Yes, we do - though this somewhat suggests that the risk involved on both sides are equivalent. The risk involved with driving a 1-2 ton car at 80-120kmph are somewhat different to the risk involved with cycling a 10-20kg bike at 10-20kmph. This is reflected in the road safety stats that show that cyclists kill zero people each year while motorists kill about 200 people each year.

barney 20v wrote: »

Is this the cyclist who posts regular videos of this type of nonsense on youtube?
looks very very familiar....

There are hundreds, if not thousands of cyclists who post regular videos of 'this kind of nonsense' (e.g. threats to their safety) on YouTube.

QuinDixie wrote: »

Lets stick with reality, if the cyclist felt there was dangerous driving, he should of went to the police with the video.

And there would be zero response from the police.

T-K-O wrote: »

If the idiot on the bike doesn't hunt him Down there is no criminal activity

WillyFXP wrote: »

How can you say the driver drove within a couple of inches of the handlebars? At no point do you see the handlebars in the video. There would have been no incident "brought about or initiated" if the cyclist hadn't purposely followed him to confront him.

Have a look at the photo. There would have been no incident 'brought about or initiated' if the driver had given him a decent 1.5m passing space, or held back until such a space was available.

JBokeh wrote: »

I read an article about people making a living from the youtube game.

Well that makes you an undoubted expert so...

roadrunner16 wrote: »

oh jesus that awful.... the smirk on his face made it all the worse...... really highlights the point that just because you aren't behind a wheel that you aren't a danger !!

P1nkSheep wrote: »

the paramedic advised that wearing a helmet probably saved her life.

Paramedics really aren't experts in deciding how helmets save (or fail to save) lives.

RainyDay

ricardo1 wrote: »

Six of one half a dozen of the other.

Came across this video of a cyclist dragging a toddler on a footpath. No argument here who's wrong.

The smirk and strut of him after the court case. Plonker.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-33743137

The coverage of that incident was quite intruiging. 30-ish people a week are killed on the roads in the UK, and hundreds of people are injured and maimed. 16 people ON PAVEMENTS have been killed by cars in the UK so far this year. Now compare the coverage of that death toll, to the DailyMail and BBC of this one case, simply because it happened to be done by a cyclist, the last remaining group that it's OK to hate for no reason other than their mode of transport.

RainyDay

apoeiguq3094y wrote: »

If you handed that video to the police, its the cyclist would get in trouble for nearly knocking over the pedestrians at 37s in the video. He swept through that junction without stopping or looking to see if it was safe.

You do realise the video was speeded up at that stage? The pedestrian and the crossing cyclist were clearly visible before he went through the junction, and he had a clear route between them.

johnny osbourne

Darkglasses wrote: »

Saw the video earlier, cyclist was a jackass. Chasing the guy down two streets to shout at him is a lot more dangerous than the overtake was.

i thought the pursuit was very dramatic, he's fast on the bike

johnny osbourne

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

He should of stopped and taunted him some more after the fall, told him he wouldn't have falling had he had his seatbelt on.

maybe he'll do that next time (with the benny hill music)

Mal-Adjusted

EagererBeaver wrote: »

As a result of the confrontation ffs. Not as if he was parking up there for the afternoon.

nothing stopping him driving off. He chose to pull up there, the length of time and reason are irrelevant.

EagererBeaver wrote: »

If you want to get picky, the cyclist heads off down the footpath that he shouldn't be on.

as he was fleeing an attempted assault, i'm fairly sure that's okay. :rolleyes:

EagererBeaver

RainyDay wrote: »

The coverage of that incident was quite intruiging. 30-ish people a week are killed on the roads in the UK, and hundreds of people are injured and maimed. 16 people ON PAVEMENTS have been killed by cars in the UK so far this year. Now compare the coverage of that death toll, to the DailyMail and BBC of this one case, simply because it happened to be done by a cyclist, the last remaining group that it's OK to hate for no reason other than their mode of transport.

Jesus Christ, play me the world's smallest violin.

tomasrojo

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Jesus Christ, play me the world's smallest violin.

I don't think it's as bad here as in the UK, but it's another factor holding back uptake of cycling, which would be a net societal gain. It's not self-pity (or not primarily).

T-K-O

RainyDay wrote: »

'Plenty of room' eh?



Yes, we do - though this somewhat suggests that the risk involved on both sides are equivalent. The risk involved with driving a 1-2 ton car at 80-120kmph are somewhat different to the risk involved with cycling a 10-20kg bike at 10-20kmph. This is reflected in the road safety stats that show that cyclists kill zero people each year while motorists kill about 200 people each year.



There are hundreds, if not thousands of cyclists who post regular videos of 'this kind of nonsense' (e.g. threats to their safety) on YouTube.


And there would be zero response from the police.



Have a look at the photo. There would have been no incident 'brought about or initiated' if the driver had given him a decent 1.5m passing space, or held back until such a space was available.


Well that makes you an undoubted expert so...




Paramedics really aren't experts in deciding how helmets save (or fail to save) lives.

Then take this hard evidence to the police, following the guy was a dumb move. The cyclist comes across like right muppet. As does the driver BTW but if he's not followed we don't get the pleasure of getting to know him, it's that simple.

It won't belong until some similar fool with a go pro ends up on the front page and for what.

A wonderful example.of the modern man

Ranchu

If you spend your days filming every cycle you do, you should probably do something else.

RainyDay

johnny osbourne wrote: »

i thought the pursuit was very dramatic, he's fast on the bike

Just in case my irony meter is mis-reading, you do realise that sections of the video were speeded up.

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Jesus Christ, play me the world's smallest violin.

tomasrojo wrote: »

I don't think it's as bad here as in the UK, but it's another factor holding back uptake of cycling, which would be a net societal gain. It's not self-pity (or not primarily).

A back-of-the-envelope calculation for me suggests that proportionally out death toll on the roads is a little bit worse than the UK. It is certainly a factor that is holding back cycling.

I'm not so sure that it's a great idea to highlight this, as there is a significant contingent of people who appear to be absolutely determined to spend as much time as possible in larger and larger traffic jams watching the rear end of the car in front, and not do anything that could possibly ease traffic flow and make their journey faster.

T-K-O wrote: »

Then take this hard evidence to the police, following the guy was a dumb move.

As explained at least three times on the thread, the police would do absolutely nothing about this evidence. Several UK police forces have an explicit policy that says 'unless someone gets hurt, don't bother reporting traffic stuff to us'. Others operate this policy implicitly.

RainyDay

Ranchu wrote: »

If you spend your days filming every cycle you do, you should probably do something else.

There are those who might say if you spend your days commenting on discussions about cycling videos, you should probably do something else. It's a judgement call really.

tomasrojo

RainyDay wrote: »

A back-of-the-envelope calculation for me suggests that proportionally out death toll on the roads is a little bit worse than the UK. It is certainly a factor that is holding back cycling.

Our KSI per billion km is lower for bike journeys, last data I saw (potentially not different if confidence intervals included?), but I was really talking about "hating on" cyclists by media and others.

Ranchu

RainyDay wrote: »

There are those who might say if you spend your days commenting on discussions about cycling videos, you should probably do something else. It's a judgement call really.

If you spend your days commenting on cycling videos you should definitely do something else. It's fanatical behaviour that can't be good for your mental health.

EagererBeaver

tomasrojo wrote: »

I don't think it's as bad here as in the UK, but it's another factor holding back uptake of cycling, which would be a net societal gain. It's not self-pity (or not primarily).

I was referring to the pathetic comment about how it's OK to hate cyclists who suffer like blacks, Jews, gays, dogs, Irish etc, not the lamentable number of deaths on our roads.

tomasrojo

I wasn't talking about the lamentable number of road deaths, actually. I was talking about "hating on" people who travel by bike. It's very unhelpful. While comparing it to racism is hyperbole, it's still a significant problem, and it comes from a similar place of in-group/out-group tension.

(Our road deaths should be lower, but they actually are ok by European standards. The hidden problem is we have achieved it to a large extent by creating an environment in which the vulnerable have virtually no independent travel.)

QuinDixie

RainyDay wrote: »

There are those who might say if you spend your days commenting on discussions about cycling videos, you should probably do something else. It's a judgement call really.

Look as you said lets deal with reality.
If he had not followed the motorist and had presented the video to the police they would not have taken action because there is at least a foot between the car and cyclist.
He followed the motorist and everything that happened after that was instigated by the cyclist.
2 headcases, real big city thinking mindsets, this is my space and **** anyone who enters it.

Anyone who agrees with either party, need to reevaluate their life values.