Danielson tests positive

Leroy42

Another one is caught.

http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/08/tom-danielson-reveals-positive-test-for-synthetic-testosterone/

This is his second time.

He is saying it must be something in the supplements. Surely at this point teams should be controlling all this and the responsibility should rest with them to check all food etc.

MPFG

Where is the outcry on here given the treatment of SKY ?


Shane Stokes ‏@SSbike 1h1 hour ago
Danielson news is huge; let's hope team doesn't stop over one rider. JV suggested before it might

http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/08/tom-danielson-reveals-positive-test-for-synthetic-testosterone/

happytramp

MPFG wrote: »

Where is the outcry on here given the treatment of SKY ?


Shane Stokes ‏@SSbike 1h1 hour ago
Danielson news is huge; let's hope team doesn't stop over one rider. JV suggested before it might

http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/08/tom-danielson-reveals-positive-test-for-synthetic-testosterone/

Come on, why bring sky into this? This thread has literally nothing to do with them.

dastardly00

https://twitter.com/DopeologyDotOrg/status/628108876882313216

ThisRegard

MPFG wrote: »

Where is the outcry on here given the treatment of SKY ?

It's only been an hour since the thread was started, on a bank holiday Monday morning. Everyone is out riding or entertaining the kids !

happytramp

dastardly00 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/DopeologyDotOrg/status/628108876882313216

Not looking good so. Although it's interesting to see that he's taken directly to twitter rather than let the team and his lawyers issue statements.

TheBlaaMan

Vaughters hasn't said a word on twitter about this, but others are being less than sympathetic :

https://twitter.com/SRichardsonCW/status/628123805936959488

It will be interesting to see how other parties react during the day.

On the one hand you would have to be brain dead stupid to try this again, and TD's twitter plea sounds genuine (but they always do.....) and he does deserve the testing of the B sample at least. On the other hand, we've heard it all before and he is already going with the ' usual excuses '.......the damage to the team could be huge if this has happened under Vaughters watch.

https://twitter.com/fmk_RoI/status/628138832387514368

gordongekko

Iaaf are so happy at this news

Russman

MPFG wrote: »

Where is the outcry on here given the treatment of SKY ?

What exactly would you like people to say, that will make you feel better, within an hour of the story breaking ?

Beasty

Can we leave Sky out of this thread please

el tel

Until B sample is tested, is this not doping speculation? :pac:

Or can we speculate like Klondikers given he's a past doper?

Beasty

el tel wrote: »

Until B sample is tested, is this not doping speculation? :pac:

Or can we speculate like Klondikers given he's a past doper?

It's a discussion on what Danielson has stated in public. He is not going to be suing Boards for a discussion he initiated when he stated he tested positive. Anyway, back on topic please

el tel

Well, I think his A sample failed an out of competition test. Call it intuition, or a "hunch" for short.

wirelessdude01

Be interesting to see what JV has to publicly say on this? Will the sponsors walk away now as he had always claimed?

godtabh

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Be interesting to see what JV has to publicly say on this? Will the sponsors walk away now as he had always claimed?

Will he walk away? His reputation is at stake.

dastardly00

This is from an article published in the NY Times on June 25th...

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/26/sports/cycling/us-cyclists-fight-to-spread-their-message-were-clean.html?referrer=

Shortly after retiring, Vaughters launched a developmental cycling squad dedicated to ethical competition. That team has since evolved into Cannondale-Garmin. Early on, the team implemented a stringent doping policy that remains today. If a rider is caught doping, the whole team will be fired.

el tel

I appreciate they all live in different parts of he world, but you'd think riders should get all their supplements supplied from the Team centrally to avoid this problem/excuse. Maybe they do already, in which case I'll shut up now

Brian?

el tel wrote: »

I appreciate they all live in different parts of he world, but you'd think riders should get all their supplements supplied from the Team centrally to avoid this problem/excuse. Maybe they do already, in which case I'll shut up now

It doesn't matter a flying **** who supplies their supplements. People caught doping blame supplements all the time, because they're liars and cheats. I'd put my house on it that this had nothing to do with supplements and everything to do with Danielson cheating.

Inquitus

Bad news for a bunch of Irish riders if JV folds the team, Ryan Mullen (confirmed), Eddie Dunbar (rumoured), Dan Martin (transfer out unconfirmed)

gordongekko

That team won't fold.

el tel

Brian? wrote: »

It doesn't matter a flying **** who supplies their supplements. People caught doping blame supplements all the time, because they're liars and cheats. I'd put my house on it that this had nothing to do with supplements and everything to do with Danielson cheating.

But contaminated supplements have on occasion been found to be reason for persons failing tests though.

godtabh

el tel wrote: »

But contaminated supplements have on occasion been found to be reason for persons failing tests though.

ones on teams approved list?

NIMAN

So cyclist, or any athlete for that matter, fails drugs test and says 'i am innocent', haven't heard that before.

Only in 99.9% of cases.

If I was a betting man, I'd put my money on him being a cheat.

diomed

I'm expecting a headline one day
"Cyclist not doping shocker"

Pudsy33

The entire team has pulled out of the Tour of Utah, Tom was the defending champion. Terrible news for Ryan Mullen

Brian?

el tel wrote: »

But contaminated supplements have on occasion been found to be reason for persons failing tests though.

On what occasion?

gordongekko

Pudsy33 wrote: »

The entire team has pulled out of the Tour of Utah, Tom was the defending champion. Terrible news for Ryan Mullen

Thats a bit of a silly move. Whats it going to achieve?

Brian?

gordongekko wrote: »

Thats a bit of a silly move. Whats it going to achieve?

It's been done before. I think it's the right move. Danielson should be ashamed of himself.

godtabh

Pudsy33 wrote: »

The entire team has pulled out of the Tour of Utah, Tom was the defending champion. Terrible news for Ryan Mullen

Big blow alright but given he was in London yesterday he may have struggled

Pudsy33

Pudsy33 wrote: »

The entire team has pulled out of the Tour of Utah, Tom was the defending champion. Terrible news for Ryan Mullen

Never mind, I'm wrong. Was reported incorrectly by Neal Rodgers.

happytramp

Pudsy33 wrote: »

Never mind, I'm wrong. Was reported incorrectly by Neal Rodgers.

Yeah, it's just TD who's pulled out. Vaughter's probably won't get away with avoiding the media for much longer.