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Danielson tests positive

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    #122
    RobFowl
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    godtabh wrote: »
    Either way his professional career is over

    Looking at his recent results I think his career ended last year in real terms


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    #123
    DonegalBay
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭DonegalBay


    morana wrote: »
    I am not a vaughters fan!

    Remember this is a man who setup a supposedly clean team with 6 convicted dopers on the books and then has an opportunity to retain a supposedly clean rider Phil Gaimon but hasnt room on the roster.....He's all talk

    maybe he wasnt one of the "cool kids"

    In fairness, they were not convicted dopers when he signed them and he never denied that there were riders on his team with a shady past. His mantra was, we give you the chance to ride clean and will monitor you to ensure you are doing so. How effective that is/was, we might just find out.

    People disagree with that approach which is fair enough but I don't think he ever misled anyone on that. I know I was never under any illusions about some of their team members. It was a lot more pragmatic than the zero tolerance approach.

    As for Gaimon, it was ironically Danielson who played a big part in getting him a spot on the team but he only had a one year contract and unfortunately the merger with Cannondale squeezed things.


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    #124
    morana
    Registered Users Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭morana


    DonegalBay wrote: »
    In fairness, they were not convicted dopers when he signed them and he never denied that there were riders on his team with a shady past. His mantra was, we give you the chance to ride clean and will monitor you to ensure you are doing so. How effective that is/was, we might just find out.

    People disagree with that approach which is fair enough but I don't think he ever misled anyone on that. I know I was never under any illusions about some of their team members. It was a lot more pragmatic than the zero tolerance approach.

    As for Gaimon, it was ironically Danielson who played a big part in getting him a spot on the team but he only had a one year contract and unfortunately the merger with Cannondale squeezed things.

    Wasnt millar already convicted?


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    #125
    D9Male
    Registered Users Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭D9Male


    Saint David is different. We all know that.


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    #126
    DonegalBay
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭DonegalBay


    morana wrote: »
    Wasnt millar already convicted?

    True he was, but was seen as the reformed doper so perfect for PR purposes. Thomas Dekker was another in fact.

    When they were trying to move the team forward in 08, it would have been difficult to find experienced riders without a shady past at that point.

    Whether they should have just been more patient and progressed more slowly is another point fot debate.


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    #127
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    morana wrote: »
    Wasnt millar already convicted?

    Didn't he own a stake in the team?


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    #128
    dastardly00
    Registered Users Posts: 13,425 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    godtabh wrote: »
    Didn't he own a stake in the team?

    According to this article he is/was part-owner of Slipstream Sports along with JV.

    http://roadcyclinguk.com/news/david-millars-worldtour-team-to-race-as-garmin-barracuda-in-2012.html#JHJCHpFIdHiiECxu.97


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    #129
    terrydel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭terrydel


    Doc07 wrote: »
    Sorry for offending you:) I just meant internet or smart phone. I use iphone the same way as you one uses the term hoover, i'm not actually brand loyal.

    No harm done chief :D was meant in a lighthearted way!


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    #130
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Took a while

    https://twitter.com/usantidoping/status/784115244306042880


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