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Self locking barriers

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  • #52
    Count Mondego
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Count Mondego


    Icelandicseige wrote: »
    Have jourdain barriers here. Can't fault them at all other than they don't get much use.

    If you were going again, would you just by standard diagonals?


  • #53
    Icelandicseige
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Icelandicseige


    Count Mondego wrote: »
    If you were going again, would you just by standard diagonals?

    Emm it depends really. If you use AI a lot there very handy. We probably have ours in the wrong place. We're nearly always closer to the crush when we need it. So just use the crush. That's no fault of the Jourdain barriers though.


  • #54
    Mooooo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    On uses may be handy for dosing instead of running up the crush. Some vets like testing in them others don't. Also would it be safer to lock to cows in it if you need to get to a calf or if there is a bull in a pen etc?


  • #55
    FeelTheBern
    Registered Users Posts: 435 ✭✭FeelTheBern


    Count Mondego wrote: »
    Icelandicseige wrote: »
    Have jourdain barriers here. Can't fault them at all other than they don't get much use.

    If you were going again, would you just by standard diagonals?

    In same boat as you Mondego. Was thinking might be handy to have in one pen for cows after calving so could bake up cow to inject or if checking on calf. Was talking to few lads that have them though and all of them seem to use the crush as opposed to locking barriers generally - also then if you have them have less feeding space too. So not sure either!


  • #56
    Timmaay
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    Need to put in 3bays on the 2nd side of the feed passage, I was thinking a normal barrier without any divisions, my dad said to get ones with diagonal bars for heifers etc, however if the self locking ones are only 100 more I probably should go for them. With just a bar I'd fit about 8cows per Bay, how many with the self locking?


  • #57
    Mooooo
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    With cows you may or may not lose cow space per bay depending on cow size with heifers they would restrict feeding space by a couple of heifers, not an issue if feed is pushed in all the time


  • #58
    Parishlad
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    Timmaay wrote: »
    Need to put in 3bays on the 2nd side of the feed passage, I was thinking a normal barrier without any divisions, my dad said to get ones with diagonal bars for heifers etc, however if the self locking ones are only 100 more I probably should go for them. With just a bar I'd fit about 8cows per Bay, how many with the self locking?

    Self locking barriers I have (Jourdain) have only 7 feed spaces.


  • #59
    JOAT
    Registered Users Posts: 109 ✭✭JOAT


    Any dairy men on here with self locking barriers? Do ye use them much? Putting up a new shed here at the moment and considering putting them in but not sure if the amount of use they will get will justify the extra cost. I can see how part time suckler men would make good use of them but on a full time dairy operation, are they used enough??


  • #60
    mycro2013
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    JOAT wrote: »
    Any dairy men on here with self locking barriers? Do ye use them much? Putting up a new shed here at the moment and considering putting them in but not sure if the amount of use they will get will justify the extra cost. I can see how part time suckler men would make good use of them but on a full time dairy operation, are they used enough??

    A dairy neighbour had them in his shed and is after getting them replaced with standard barriers. He maintains you lose too many feed spaces with them.


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  • #61
    Count Mondego
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Count Mondego


    mycro2013 wrote: »
    A dairy neighbour had them in his shed and is after getting them replaced with standard barriers. He maintains you lose too many feed spaces with them.

    You'll hardly get more then seven cows over 15 foot anyway, even though the diagonal have 11 slots, only useful for weanlings. I put in four locking and one hinged diagonal. In fairness the locking are a waste of time but I was getting the grant so put them in anyway. Wouldn't bother if I was doing it again.


  • #62
    yellow50HX
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    not sure why you would need them for dairy if you can handle them in the parlour or crush.

    have 50 sucklers and have 1 locking barrier with 7 spaces. the rest are 9 space standards.

    find it great for what i need and also very handy come dosign time, as i can lockign them in and work my way across, way faster then the crush.


  • #63
    L1985
    Registered Users Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭L1985


    We got them-never used them and I thought they would be so handy. Changing things around this year now so maybe we will start using them a bit more. We got the jourdain ones for the reason that you can release them individually and they are v sturdy.


  • #64
    JOAT
    Registered Users Posts: 109 ✭✭JOAT


    yellow50HX wrote: »
    not sure why you would need them for dairy if you can handle them in the parlour or crush.

    have 50 sucklers and have 1 locking barrier with 7 spaces. the rest are 9 space standards.

    find it great for what i need and also very handy come dosign time, as i can lockign them in and work my way across, way faster then the crush.
    Got talking to my local vet today for a few mins and asked him about them. He was saying that some suckler boys use them for testing and vaccinating heavily in calf cows instead of taking them to the crush but that he has only one dairy man that does it. Might price them at the ploughing next week and see but think I'll end up with the normal diagonal going by yer reports. Cheers


  • #65
    blackdog1
    Registered Users Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭blackdog1


    JOAT wrote:
    Got talking to my local vet today for a few mins and asked him about them. He was saying that some suckler boys use them for testing and vaccinating heavily in calf cows instead of taking them to the crush but that he has only one dairy man that does it. Might price them at the ploughing next week and see but think I'll end up with the normal diagonal going by yer reports. Cheers

    I have jourdan ones in but I never use them on milkers but I use them quite alot in the dry cow area at winter time for dosing and bolusing. I recommend them in areas outside of milking cubicles. Do all the milkers through a good crush.


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