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Rent Allowance Tenant - Getting kicked out of current house and can't find anywhere

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  • 05-08-2015 3:02pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭


    Hi all

    My sister and her 3 kids have been renting a private house for about 5 or 6 years. In that time she has never missed a rent payment, always paid her bills, never had any complaints about her, will only contact her landlady if absolutely needs to etc .. generally an all round perfect tenant.

    Her landlady is selling up so unfortunately my sister and her kids have to move out. She has given my sister a brilliant reference but as she is on rent allowance she is finding it extremely difficult to find anywhere to move to. Her current house is now "Sale Agreed" so time is running out.

    Theres rarely any suitable houses put up for rent and when there is there is enough interest that the landlord wont touch a rent allowance tenant. Has anyone got any advise at all?

    Thanks so much.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,372 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    In what area is your sister looking to rent?


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭pinkyponk2


    Apologies, she's currently in the Dublin 5 area but will move further out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    pinkyponk2 wrote: »
    Apologies, she's currently in the Dublin 5 area but will move further out.

    Definitely look further afield a lot a dublin is out of rent supplement limits unfortunately


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    pinkyponk2 wrote: »
    Apologies, she's currently in the Dublin 5 area but will move further out.

    Has she looked around the likes of balbriggan?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,953 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    Even in Balbriggan accepting rent allowance can draw 60+ enquiries and views but generally rent is inside of Fingal allowed limits.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Moonbeam wrote: »
    Even in Balbriggan accepting rent allowance can draw 60+ enquiries and views but generally rent is inside of Fingal allowed limits.

    Yeah that's why I suggested it as the rent is within the limits. Demand is very high though, but she might find somewhere :)


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,417 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Your sister needs to get everything in order as if she is a private renter.
    Ring the houses she likes even if they don't say they accept RA.

    She needs to talk to the landlord in person to get across how she is, how she will respect the property and the only reason she is looking for another house now is because her current house has sale agreed. Make sure to point out that she was there for 6 years as this means a lot in my opinion.

    Have a months security deposit ready to go, if she can have the first months rent ready too.

    I took in an RA tenant in D11 as she came across in the exact same situation as yourself even out of the private renters that had viewed it I was happy with her and it's been plain sailing ever since. Fingers crossed :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭ComfortKid


    You'd think landlords would prefer a rent allowance tennent as it guarantees that the rent will be paid on time every month no?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    ComfortKid wrote: »
    You'd think landlords would prefer a rent allowance tennent as it guarantees that the rent will be paid on time every month no?

    Not when it is paid directly to the tenant


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    ComfortKid wrote: »
    You'd think landlords would prefer a rent allowance tennent as it guarantees that the rent will be paid on time every month no?

    landlords all take RA once and generally once only. Its obviously not every RA tenant but any seasoned landlord will always have an RA horror story.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭ComfortKid


    Stheno wrote:
    Not when it is paid directly to the tenant

    landlords all take RA once and generally once only. Its obviously not every RA tenant but any seasoned landlord will always have an RA horror story.


    Sorry. I'm on a different scheme, I got mixed up. The Council pay my rent directly to the landlord and I pay the council. I like this because I have nothing to worry about and my landlord doesn't have to worry about me running off with the money.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,417 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    ComfortKid wrote: »
    You'd think landlords would prefer a rent allowance tennent as it guarantees that the rent will be paid on time every month no?

    Not really. It goes to the tenant. It comes about 8 weeks after the tenant goes in. Then there can be trouble with the tenant holding back especially towards the end etc

    It's risky!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭ComfortKid


    kceire wrote:
    Not really. It goes to the tenant. It comes about 8 weeks after the tenant goes in. Then there can be trouble with the tenant holding back especially towards the end etc


    As I said previously, I am on a different RA scheme, it goes straight to landlord from the day I moved.

    I thought the whole country was switched to HAP now


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    ComfortKid wrote: »
    As I said previously, I am on a different RA scheme, it goes straight to landlord from the day I moved.

    I thought the whole country was switched to HAP now

    It's been brought in slowly ,there trying to avoid the issue of it been a short term payment I believe


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭ComfortKid


    Gatling wrote:
    It's been brought in slowly ,there trying to avoid the issue of it been a short term payment I believe


    It is a good thing though, yeah?

    Will this make it easier for landlords to rent to unemployed?


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    ComfortKid wrote: »
    It is a good thing though, yeah?

    Will this make it easier for landlords to rent to unemployed?

    Yeah definitely especially if makes getting people back to the work force easier too .


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭ComfortKid


    Gatling wrote:
    Yeah definitely especially if makes getting people back to the work force easier too .


    Yeah I'm allowed earn up to 30k and keep it which should be an incentive for the people who are "better off on the dole"


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭Wabbit Ears


    My sister was in the exact same situation and ended moving into our mothers as she would otherwise have been homeless. Took another 8 months to find a place.

    She swears that being a single mother was what got her turned away the most as, more often than not, RA hadn't even been discussed yet!!

    Basically in those 8 months she got employed and saved for a deposit and first months rent and went looking as a renter, not as a RA. Still had to move miles outside of Dublin !!!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,953 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    ComfortKid wrote: »
    You'd think landlords would prefer a rent allowance tennent as it guarantees that the rent will be paid on time every month no?

    no,unfortunately not.
    The tenant pays a share too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭pinkyponk2


    Stheno wrote: »
    Has she looked around the likes of balbriggan?

    Her kids are in school in D5 and she doesn't want to have to move them so hoping not to go too far out.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭pinkyponk2


    kceire wrote: »
    Your sister needs to get everything in order as if she is a private renter.
    Ring the houses she likes even if they don't say they accept RA.

    She needs to talk to the landlord in person to get across how she is, how she will respect the property and the only reason she is looking for another house now is because her current house has sale agreed. Make sure to point out that she was there for 6 years as this means a lot in my opinion.

    Have a months security deposit ready to go, if she can have the first months rent ready too.

    I took in an RA tenant in D11 as she came across in the exact same situation as yourself even out of the private renters that had viewed it I was happy with her and it's been plain sailing ever since. Fingers crossed :)

    Thanks kceire, I did say that to her but unfortunately most lettings are done via letting agents now so you don't get to speak directly to the landlord. I suggested typing up a letter with all the info, attaching a copy of her current landlady's reference and sending them to letting agents. Do you think that would help?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    pinkyponk2 wrote: »
    Her kids are in school in D5 and she doesn't want to have to move them so hoping not to go too far out.

    She should probably prepare for having to give up on that wish, she isn't in a strong position. There are next to no decent options accepting RA in the city council area


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭pinkyponk2


    ComfortKid wrote: »
    Sorry. I'm on a different scheme, I got mixed up. The Council pay my rent directly to the landlord and I pay the council. I like this because I have nothing to worry about and my landlord doesn't have to worry about me running off with the money.

    Hi ComfortKid. what scheme is that if you don't mind me asking?

    Edit: Sorry just saw you said it was HAP. That's not yet available in our area.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭charlietheminxx


    Being honest, staying in Dublin 5 is really unrealistic. Even as private tenants, it's challenging to find somewhere decent that close to town. She needs to be looking at North Co. Dublin and West Dublin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,536 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    ComfortKid wrote: »
    You'd think landlords would prefer a rent allowance tennent as it guarantees that the rent will be paid on time every month no?

    From experience they tend to be more hassle than tenants paying their own rent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    Has she looked at west finglas id imagine she would get a rental there. I dont have much knowledge of the area. Dublin 15 is a great area but is much in demand. RA tenants are up against it


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 10,661 ✭✭✭✭John Mason


    Has she looked at west finglas id imagine she would get a rental there. I dont have much knowledge of the area. Dublin 15 is a great area but is much in demand. RA tenants are up against it

    Not a hope of getting a house within the price in Finglas. The rents are ridiculous and there are only 8 houses to rent


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    Gatling wrote: »
    It's been brought in slowly ,there trying to avoid the issue of it been a short term payment I believe


    what about west finglas surely there must be three bed houses to rent there at a reasonable price ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭massy086


    what about west finglas surely there must be three bed houses to rent there at a reasonable price ?
    No finglas rents are very high and very few will take ra


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 10,661 ✭✭✭✭John Mason


    what about west finglas surely there must be three bed houses to rent there at a reasonable price ?



    Not a hope of getting a house within the price in Finglas. The rents are ridiculous and there are only 8 houses to rent


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