World of Warcraft: Legion

Redfox25

In the same boat too, bought DOW 3 the other night, thats 20-40 hours of fun away for wow for me in the short term.

Finding it hard to motivate myself in wow atm, changed guild twice this year , first one broke up from raiding due to drama and the second one is a mythic guild that does mostly mythic raiding. I thought I could get in on the mythic plus runs but cant be bothered so far. Not sure if its burn out or boredom (which is nearly the same thing I know) or what.
Next few weeks will see.

Vicxas

I've been hitting the brick walls that are HC pugs in the Nighthold, twice I helped 2 separate groups reach Gul'Dan (Took about 3 hours each time due to wasters quitting after 1 wipe and backfilling).

And each time we reach the third phase of Gul'dan people tunnel vision and don't soak the souls for Black Harvest or don't move when they have flames or even worse don't help with Bonds.

Reaching the end of my tether with this bloody game to be completely honest.

Redfox25

Vicxas wrote: »

I've been hitting the brick walls that are HC pugs in the Nighthold, twice I helped 2 separate groups reach Gul'Dan (Took about 3 hours each time due to wasters quitting after 1 wipe and backfilling).

And each time we reach the third phase of Gul'dan people tunnel vision and don't soak the souls for Black Harvest or don't move when they have flames or even worse don't help with Bonds.

Reaching the end of my tether with this bloody game to be completely honest.

With you a 100% with the heroic pugging bit. Its such a pita really.

You really need a good heroic raid guild that doesnt have the drama, burn out or crap players that make you want to move on.

With Legion and the AP grind and other bits, alot of these guilds have fallen apart, which is an awful pity, the game has lost a bit of its fun.
Thats my 2c in any case.

TheDoc

Changes and hotfixes coming to make AP catchup a lot faster, and AP in general a lost faster. They are short of admitting they made a mistake with it, but definitly making changes that acknowledge they havn't done it well.

Vicxas

TheDoc wrote: »

Changes and hotfixes coming to make AP catchup a lot faster, and AP in general a lost faster. They are short of admitting they made a mistake with it, but definitly making changes that acknowledge they havn't done it well.

Will definitely help with the burnout, but is it too little too late.

Personally i think the gap now between Tomb and whatever is coming in 7.3 will tell us a lot about where WoW is going.

Vicxas

Anyone tried the "Death of Chromie" scenario yet, its an exercise in wanting to pull your hair out.

Redfox25

Vicxas wrote: »

Anyone tried the "Death of Chromie" scenario yet, its an exercise in wanting to pull your hair out.

Withered army training mark 2!

Its a distraction for a few hours , cant see myself doing it on more than one toon as its just a mini game.

Vicxas

Redfox25 wrote: »

Withered army training mark 2!

Its a distraction for a few hours , cant see myself doing it on more than one toon as its just a mini game.

Absolutely, the bloody thing will be the death of me.

Running it on my main, after that i think ill be ok not running it on my alts.

Redfox25

Vicxas wrote: »

Absolutely, the bloody thing will be the death of me.

Running it on my main, after that i think ill be ok not running it on my alts.

The rewards are meh, its not like you need to run it at all, unless you like slightly different coloured transmog. Bit of a pity, if it could reward gear at the end from a chest wtih a chance of legendaries that would be more of a reason to do it. (In my view).

Kiith

Is there at least a chance of a nice mount like with the Withered Training?

Vicxas

Kiith wrote: »

Is there at least a chance of a nice mount like with the Withered Training?

Dont think so, its a timesink to keep us distracted from the lack of Tomb currently.

You get the Ageless Bronze Drake and Bronze Proto-Whelp companions, but as % drops from the Time Lost wallet

PropJoe10

Not been near Legion yet but am having some moments of weakness lately. Would anyone recommend picking it up at this stage, or is there any point?

Calhoun

Depends on what you want, PVE content is quite fun and enjoyable. PvP is a bit stale as they have removed allot of complexity that made up classes.

I think the character pruning has really screwed up what should have been their best expansion in a long time, in addition the decisions they made around weapons has not helped either as it has meant being stuck with one spec b ut they have improved that.

Vicxas

PropJoe10 wrote: »

Not been near Legion yet but am having some moments of weakness lately. Would anyone recommend picking it up at this stage, or is there any point?

Its a great expansion and there's so much to do. I would definitely say its one of their best expansions, and there's still at least 1 more raid tier to come so i would say give it a blast.

PropJoe10

Alright thanks guys. This is the first ever expansion that I haven't checked out, so I'll think about it. Very conflicted but the reviews have seemed good. Thanks again!

TheDoc

PropJoe10 wrote: »

Alright thanks guys. This is the first ever expansion that I haven't checked out, so I'll think about it. Very conflicted but the reviews have seemed good. Thanks again!

To be honest if you are a wow player from the past, it would somewhat depend why you quit.

I never really got previous wow players asking "is this expansion worth coming back for". I get it from friends who quit all the time. It's wow, you know what your getting, you know why you played it and why you quit.

Legion is probably the best expansion since WOTLK for me personally, but like every expansion while it has brilliant things, it has terrible things also.

Very much depends on what made you quit.

As always if you are just coming back there is loads of catchup to help you get into Tomb relatively quickly (Tomb the latest raid) or PvP or whatever you were into.

PropJoe10

TheDoc wrote: »

To be honest if you are a wow player from the past, it would somewhat depend why you quit.

I never really got previous wow players asking "is this expansion worth coming back for". I get it from friends who quit all the time. It's wow, you know what your getting, you know why you played it and why you quit.

Legion is probably the best expansion since WOTLK for me personally, but like every expansion while it has brilliant things, it has terrible things also.

Very much depends on what made you quit.

As always if you are just coming back there is loads of catchup to help you get into Tomb relatively quickly (Tomb the latest raid) or PvP or whatever you were into.

Thanks dude. I'll definitely take that on board before I splash the cash! Didn't enjoy the WoD expansion at all - garrisons really killed it for me. Been hearing good things about this one lately though, which is why I've been considering it.

Vicxas

Anyone ran ToS yet?

From the guides it looks like the biggest early co-ordination hurdle will be the Demonic Inquisition.

Contessa Raven

Haven't run Tomb yet but have our first guild bash on Sunday. Really looking forward to it.

I know a couple of people who have already cleared normal and they have said it's good but if you've cleared hc NH then the first 4 or 5 bosses are a breeze.

One of my mates was in a normal pug earlier and they kept wiping over and over on the Demonic Inquisition. Lowest they got was 20%.

So we shall see....

TheDoc

I really like the instance. It's big, in there is a lot of running between bosses and trash, but the design is really nice and the bosses themselves very enjoyable.

Cleared normal and 8/10HC which wasn't ideal, but for a two day raiding guild that had a mass exodus of core raiders only a few weeks ago, somewhat acceptable.

Can see a massive struggle in my current raid team come mythic with the stupidity of things that went on in heroic. It looks nicely tuned as well in that the tail end bosses were a challenge worthy enough for most in the first openings, so it wasn't a cakewalk.

Looking forward to my guild sorting it's **** out and start moving through mythic.

Redfox25

Nice

My guild hasnt rebuilt after its heroic exodus a few months ago so I will start looking for a new one. I got into a mythic guild as a social but I am not at that level and cant commit to 3 nights a week so off I go again to find a 2 night a week heroic guild.
Will be interesting.

Vicxas

Ran a few bosses with a normal pug yesterday, i really like the instance.

Kiith

7.3 just showed up on the PTR.

Vicxas

Kiith wrote: »

7.3 just showed up on the PTR.

Lots of tasty things in it, Alleria Windrunner and Turalyon are back.

Should be an interesting patch.

Kiith

Vicxas wrote: »

Lots of tasty things in it, Alleria Windrunner and Turalyon are back.

Yeah, it's only taken 21 years :P

Kiith

The catchup mechanics really do make it easier now. Only takes 3 hours for a research note, so i can get my main to 40 pretty soon, with an alt or two to follow not far afterwards. Played a bit over the weekend, and enjoying messing around with my Warlock who i've not played much in a while. Just going through the Broken Shore quests, and will do some LFR this week.

Also, really enjoy the Death of Chromie scenario, even if it is near impossible before you get the later talents.

Vicxas

I'm leveling a Blood DK at the moment and i feel they are gonna be OP when i hit 110.

They're a lot of fun so far.

Redfox25

The bdk is alot of fun and alot stronger now than at the start of Legion. Recomend it.

Xenji

Been leveling a Unholy DK, love the AOE damage, I have been dealing more damage than tanks in some dungeons.

TheDoc

DK has been a really good class this expansion. Unholy is back as the go to raid PvE DPS spec, after Frost was best in Nighthold.

Blood had some issues in raid tiers but looks ok now, but has been a really enjoyable fun tank throughout the expansion, especially in Mythic +. DK is now my main alt (horde side) and really happy to finally have settled on an alt. It's always been a class I loved, this expansion just nailed it as my prio alt after so much hoping. Was even maining it for a while.

Killed Goroth Mythic last night after a lot of grief and silly wiping.But I suppose nice start for the reformation. See how we go as the tier progress', defo some issues with players already showing up on such an easy boss.

Personally I'm in a weird space, havn't felt comfortable on my lock since patch and my DPs is really plummeting : /

I've got into a streaming schedule now, you can catch me raiding @ http://www.twitch.tv/furyio Monday, Tuesday,Thursday 20:30 - 23:00

MagicIRL

I lost interest in Legion. A good expansion, but it feels too busy for my liking. Maybe that's because I don't have time to raid this expansion, at all?

There just seems to be so much time required to get your character to any sort of respectable state - and after years of jumping between alts because multiple classes are fun and I don't like being restricted.

Also, the game has changed. A lot. I don't like the removal of so many spells. Lots of class flavour has been lost of the years.

Good to see you're still raiding and streaming though, Doc!

TheDoc

MagicIRL wrote: »

Good to see you're still raiding and streaming though, Doc!

Yeah Legion is my perfect expansion at the wrong time. We had a second daughter arrive two weeks after launch. You'd swear I was in method the way I was levelling mains and alts and doing content, probably knowing I had to pack it all in early

Only came back raiding in Nighthold and was happy with mythic progress and my own developement. Seem to have hit a wall so need to figure out how to push on a bit more now in terms of my own play. In terms of our guild, putting this tier down to levelling the boat and getting a core team towards Argus.

Below is our Goroth kill, a fight I didn't feel was difficult but took three hours to prog and died 5 mins before raid end

Do really need to take a step back and look at what I'm doing since patch. 900k min is really where I feel I should be at, but getting 1m more consistently as my min dps.

The changes to affliction in theory shouldn't be a big deal, but I'm having a real struggle managing shards since the changes

TheDoc

haha turn up for raid last night, pulled into private chat by officers, RL and GL, given news, then announce to entire raid team that guild is stopping progression.

Officers don't have the drive to rebuild and keep it going. And after Goroth mythic don't blame them.

Thankfully got myself a new guild last night, another two night guild. Not mental progress but suits the times I'm available. So the streaming and raiding continues!

MagicIRL

My 2-day Mythic guild folded during Legion too.

I think the AP grind and insane patch notes have just broken people. The content seems great, and the instances look fantastic, but something about Legion is clearly pushing people away from raiding.

TheDoc

MagicIRL wrote: »

My 2-day Mythic guild folded during Legion too.

I think the AP grind and insane patch notes have just broken people. The content seems great, and the instances look fantastic, but something about Legion is clearly pushing people away from raiding.

Well for us it was just burnout for the officers. The guild had a serious high level core of players when I joined, players way too good for a 2 day guild but were happy playing with friends. They were frequently posting top 100 ranks on mythic, as a group achieving high ranked execution times and were pretty much server 1st/2nd.

Guild drama meant like 16/17 of those present on Guldan Mythic kill left. So its just too big a rebuild job they feel and they are right. Some trials have looked ok, some look horrible, some need work. On the server we are on its tough to get recruits of any quality.

So I'm back on Ravencrest, after spending about 80 quid a few months back trasnfering characters haha

Vicxas

Anyone know of any way to get artifact catchup compendiums sent to a toon on another realm?

Dcully

I enjoyed legion quite a bit, played for about 2 months after release and quit as i could not find a suitable guild.
Blizz are offering me 7 days free so i might jump back in for a bit.
I have 4 toons at max level but since i enjoy healing a lot im wondering what state healers are in at the moment?

priest,monk and shammy at max level would like to focus on one of them as a healer.

Vicxas

Dcully wrote: »

I enjoyed legion quite a bit, played for about 2 months after release and quit as i could not find a suitable guild.
Blizz are offering me 7 days free so i might jump back in for a bit.
I have 4 toons at max level but since i enjoy healing a lot im wondering what state healers are in at the moment?

priest,monk and shammy at max level would like to focus on one of them as a healer.

Have a Resto Shammy, they're in great shape at the moment.

Redfox25

Holy priest is ok atm too, not as powerful or wanted as the R shammy and both are a good bit behind the R druid (what a surprise).

Give it a lash and see how you get on. Alot of guilds looking for people atm so have a poke on the forums beforehand to gauge interest too.

PropJoe10

Took the plunge and bought Legion. The questing and zones seem pretty cool so far!

Dcully

Discipline is a lot of fun now and a real challenge to play, knowledge of when damage is incoming is a big plus, time to learn fights allover again plus the new stuff ,,,,, thats if i do decide to resub :P

but yeah discipline is probably the hardest spec ive played in the game since release but its so so rewarding when you get it right.

Vicxas

Dcully wrote: »

Discipline is a lot of fun now and a real challenge to play, knowledge of when damage is incoming is a big plus, time to learn fights allover again plus the new stuff ,,,,, thats if i do decide to resub :P

but yeah discipline is probably the hardest spec ive played in the game since release but its so so rewarding when you get it right.

Disc is meant to be very rewarding once you learn it properly, same with a Feral Druid.

I remember playing my Disc priest right after the changes came through and before Artifact weapons came out. Was a disaster.

MagicIRL

Odds on a new expansion announcement at Gamescon anyone?

Vicxas

MagicIRL wrote: »

Odds on a new expansion announcement at Gamescon anyone?

If not Gamescon then it'll be Blizzcon.


FINALLY got to down KJ nomal this morning, after like.... 30 pug attempts.

nix

Aaaaand im back, i just cant help subbing every few months to itch that mmo itch..

Anybody know quickest way to grind legion rep? trying to get that flying sorted for alts..

Also any tips with acquiring the class mounts? does it take long?

I've tried looking it up but its wow and y'know, information overload! :eek:

Redfox25

Welcome back, get in and grind dailies in the broken shore is the quickest way.
There are also rep missions for your alts (if you have any) and sometimes the tokens for those are BoA, so you can mail them to your main to get his/her rep up faster. Drawback to that is that they might not be Legion rep tokens.

Class mounts doesnt take long but some require you to have unlocked other bits of the story you might have skipped. I know for my pally that I didnt unlock suramar and he is stalled very near the end.

MagicIRL

I'm looking to come back too :pac:

I'm thinking of leveling a Human Paladin or Priest. I'm not sure which. I have both at 110 but none of the Legion end-game of space aliens appeals to me so I figure I'll just clear some zones with quests.

Anyone recommend a good Alliance EU realm? Preferably PvP.

Also; a side note, have you seen how Blizzard turned off sharding for some RP event on MoonGuard-US? The server actually looks alive again! Why on earth can't they do that for all zones...

I understand sharding launches but after that...

Vicxas

MagicIRL wrote: »

I'm looking to come back too :pac:

I'm thinking of leveling a Human Paladin or Priest. I'm not sure which. I have both at 110 but none of the Legion end-game of space aliens appeals to me so I figure I'll just clear some zones with quests.

Anyone recommend a good Alliance EU realm? Preferably PvP.

Also; a side note, have you seen how Blizzard turned off sharding for some RP event on MoonGuard-US? The server actually looks alive again! Why on earth can't they do that for all zones...

I understand sharding launches but after that...

Looks like Sharding has been turned off for most of the servers for Northrend, looks Bustling!

Dcully

Well i enjoyed my free 7 days so asked for 7 more and blizz obliged, im now subbed for the next 60 days :P

Still maining disc priest but started to level up alts thanks to ability to upgrade heirlooms to 110, super fast leveling now.

Having a blast with my demon hunter, never knew they were so enjoyable to play, currently tanking away and enjoying it.
Nearly have my Dk to 110 too now, also fun tanking on him although i think i enjoy the demon hunter tanking gameplay a bit more.

Could i have a tank as a main? ive never done so before but cant get over how enjoyable demon hunter is.


I need flaying in broken isles soooo much.

Kiith

I've been levelling alts pretty much entirely, and once they get to LFR levels (860ish), i tend to move on to another one. Hadn't originally planned it, but i think i might try get all classes to 110 over the next few weeks.