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*********Motors Chat - Round 9 *********

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  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    166man wrote: »
    I'd say you might get a few bob for the wheels currently on it too.

    Sorry, never replied to that. Yeah, I'll hopefully flog the C5 ones for 250-300 or so. I'll advertise them as 300 and see what happens.

    Brothers wife bought a Peugeot there a couple of weeks back with steelies/hubcaps and as far as I know she's been looking for alloys, so could be a handy one.

    I've got the Peugeot centre caps on those 18s, too, and I can take the Citroen caps off the C5 wheels, so everyone gets what they want and it all looks genuine and authentic.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stheno wrote: »
    on 1. I'd wait for it to get through the NCT, I'd not give him a penny more until it's done tbh.

    On 2. we are pricing that at the moment, it's about the 300 mark to refurb four alloys.


    Well, for all the negativity i've read about 'that part' of dublin, the chap i've been dealing with seems fairly sound. He hasn't slipped the mask of a genuine chap yet, so I actually feel quite confident dealing with him. Although obviously if he's taking me for a ride I won't know about it until I'm €8k lighter.

    If it's €300 for 4, does that mean it's €150 for 2? Or are you finding that places are strategically pricing to push you into doing 4 at a time (ie; €100 per wheel, or €300 for 4 wheels).

    If I could get two done for €150 I'd probably send the two scuffed ones in to be done with someone.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Well, for all the negativity i've read about 'that part' of dublin, the chap i've been dealing with seems fairly sound. He hasn't slipped the mask of a genuine chap yet, so I actually feel quite confident dealing with him. Although obviously if he's taking me for a ride I won't know about it until I'm €8k lighter.

    If it's €300 for 4, does that mean it's €150 for 2? Or are you finding that places are strategically pricing to push you into doing 4 at a time (ie; €100 per wheel, or €300 for 4 wheels).

    If I could get two done for €150 I'd probably send the two scuffed ones in to be done with someone.

    No idea on the price of two tbh, we are pricing for four.
    Sorry


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stheno wrote: »
    No idea on the price of two tbh, we are pricing for four.
    Sorry

    Ah, no, just thought I'd ask in the off chance that you had come across such pricing.

    Can I ask where you're looking at (in terms of getting it done). Has there been anyone in particular recommended above others? Wouldn't mind spending a few minutes on the phone in the morning asking a few questions, but knowing my luck I'd bring it to the least experienced people in the country and end up with my wheels ruined. :pac:


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Ah, no, just thought I'd ask in the off chance that you had come across such pricing.

    Can I ask where you're looking at (in terms of getting it done). Has there been anyone in particular recommended above others? Wouldn't mind spending a few minutes on the phone in the morning asking a few questions, but knowing my luck I'd bring it to the least experienced people in the country and end up with my wheels ruined. :pac:

    I asked a while back on here, and MM and a few others had gone to wheel wizards in Finglas and recommended them, so those are the main ones I've contacted.

    Oh has also gotten a few recommendations from his friends, but I don't know them offhand.


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  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stheno wrote: »
    I asked a while back on here, and MM and a few others had gone to wheel wizards in Finglas and recommended them, so those are the main ones I've contacted.

    Oh has also gotten a few recommendations from his friends, but I don't know them offhand.


    €360 for 4 18" wheels.. Ouch. A tad higher than I'd anticipated.

    Their work does look good though, I'll give them that!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    €360 for 4 18" wheels.. Ouch. A tad higher than I'd anticipated.

    Their work does look good though, I'll give them that!

    Pretty standard pricing to be honest.

    If you are replacing the wheels why are you refurbing them? Or is is the ones you've just bought you want to refurb?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,854 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    €360 for 4 18" wheels.. Ouch. A tad higher than I'd anticipated.

    Their work does look good though, I'll give them that!

    Ouch me hole, do you know that that's the price of 1 brand new alloy from a dealership? They come out looking like they're just off the production line once Wheel Wizards work their wizardry on them :D


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stheno wrote: »
    Pretty standard pricing to be honest.

    If you are replacing the wheels why are you refurbing them? Or is is the ones you've just bought you want to refurb?


    Of the ones I just bought, one has a fair few battle scars. I'm not mad about fixing it up to be honest, but I was just curious on the pricing if I did indeed opt to go down that route.

    But i've always been lead to believe you need to do 2 at a time (same side of car) as they won't always look the same.

    Ah who knows, though. When I actually have the car with the wheels on it, it might bug me enough to get them all done, or I might just not bother at all when I see it all done. Time will tell, but just wanted to get a rough idea with regards to where I stood with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,930 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    Yup, gone a few weeks now. F30 330d on the way soon :)

    Sorry, but after all the slagging over the years all I can say is:


    AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA
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    :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,854 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    I knew that was coming :D

    At least it's a 6 cylinder!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,480 ✭✭✭YbFocus


    I knew that was coming :D

    At least it's a 6 cylinder!

    Doesn't count for **** :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,865 ✭✭✭✭MuppetCheck


    I knew that was coming :D

    At least it's a 6 cylinder!

    Lol...the justifications come.

    Sure he's doing the mileage:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,865 ✭✭✭fancy pigeon


    I knew that was coming :D

    At least it's a 6 cylinder!

    This is a real 6 cylinder diesel :D:D:D



    Next thing is we see you on a set of JOMS, a popcorn limiter and upswept letter tips/porsche tips :D

    It's inevitable, soon this will be you ;)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭GvidoR


    Got some stickers :P

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    lads are any of you from Cork? how are you surviving down there?

    finished my time in Waterford, have the opportunity to head on to Cork for a year and we've been looking at accommodation for weeks. ****ing nightmare, people are renting houses sight unseen. every appointment we make with an EA, when we turn up to the house, they are group viewings with 10-15 people at them, very intimidating and makes it virtually impossible to rent as it's a bit like the lovechild between an auction and a lottery as the first person out of the group brave enough to commit to the place having seen as little as possible gets it. we have good references and wouldn't be using RAS etc. looks like demand is well outstripping supply.

    it's literally looking like living in a hotel for a few weeks is the only viable option.

    /rant

    is it also true about the traffic problem? would be working on the Tramore road and most estate agents are saying if we lived in places like Douglas, Blackrock, Ballincollig, Glanmire, Cobh etc that we would be facing an hour and a half to two hour commute at peak times? this seems crazy when these places are like 10km away.

    is there anywhere that you could live that would be a reasonable commuting distance to the Tramore road, like under an hour? i know maybe our budget is holding us back, but looking at places under €1k per month.

    i know this isn't the accommodation forum but it's kinda motors related!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,189 ✭✭✭NewApproach


    Anyone own or have experience of VW [Passat] CCs? Thinking of getting a dsg one, look lovely spec. Presume they'd be frugal too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,183 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    lads are any of you from Cork? how are you surviving down there?

    finished my time in Waterford, have the opportunity to head on to Cork for a year and we've been looking at accommodation for weeks. ****ing nightmare, people are renting houses sight unseen. every appointment we make with an EA, when we turn up to the house, they are group viewings with 10-15 people at them, very intimidating and makes it virtually impossible to rent as it's a bit like the lovechild between an auction and a lottery as the first person out of the group brave enough to commit to the place having seen as little as possible gets it. we have good references and wouldn't be using RAS etc. looks like demand is well outstripping supply.

    it's literally looking like living in a hotel for a few weeks is the only viable option.

    /rant

    is it also true about the traffic problem? would be working on the Tramore road and most estate agents are saying if we lived in places like Douglas, Blackrock, Ballincollig, Glanmire, Cobh etc that we would be facing an hour and a half to two hour commute at peak times? this seems crazy when these places are like 10km away.

    is there anywhere that you could live that would be a reasonable commuting distance to the Tramore road, like under an hour? i know maybe our budget is holding us back, but looking at places under €1k per month.

    i know this isn't the accommodation forum but it's kinda motors related!

    The accommodation situation is indeed chronic down here - I heard lately there's only 100 houses in the entire city for letting at the moment. I don't know what to do about that.

    Douglas is a pain in the hole traffic-wise, but if you lived somewhere like Bishopstown or Glasheen you'd be at the Tramore Road in anything between ten and thirty minutes, depending on the exact time of the morning. Even Ballincollig and Glanmire should be alright with the South Ring road, but the villages themselves probably get quite congested at peak times right enough. Some of us manage to survive quite well down here - we are a peaceful tribe of lilting, opinionated consumers of crúibíns and Baymish, biy! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,183 ✭✭✭UnknownSpecies


    lads are any of you from Cork? how are you surviving down there?

    finished my time in Waterford, have the opportunity to head on to Cork for a year and we've been looking at accommodation for weeks. ****ing nightmare, people are renting houses sight unseen. every appointment we make with an EA, when we turn up to the house, they are group viewings with 10-15 people at them, very intimidating and makes it virtually impossible to rent as it's a bit like the lovechild between an auction and a lottery as the first person out of the group brave enough to commit to the place having seen as little as possible gets it. we have good references and wouldn't be using RAS etc. looks like demand is well outstripping supply.

    it's literally looking like living in a hotel for a few weeks is the only viable option.

    /rant

    is it also true about the traffic problem? would be working on the Tramore road and most estate agents are saying if we lived in places like Douglas, Blackrock, Ballincollig, Glanmire, Cobh etc that we would be facing an hour and a half to two hour commute at peak times? this seems crazy when these places are like 10km away.

    is there anywhere that you could live that would be a reasonable commuting distance to the Tramore road, like under an hour? i know maybe our budget is holding us back, but looking at places under €1k per month.

    i know this isn't the accommodation forum but it's kinda motors related!

    They're talking bollox about the commute times. I'm from Midleton and used to commute to the city centre for college and work for (roughly) 4 years. Midleton to the Tramore road takes 20 mins without traffic, so you're looking at 30-40 mins if traffic is bad. That being said, I'd still try find somewhere to live in the city, for your own sanity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Foxhole Norman


    lads are any of you from Cork? how are you surviving down there?

    finished my time in Waterford, have the opportunity to head on to Cork for a year and we've been looking at accommodation for weeks. ****ing nightmare, people are renting houses sight unseen. every appointment we make with an EA, when we turn up to the house, they are group viewings with 10-15 people at them, very intimidating and makes it virtually impossible to rent as it's a bit like the lovechild between an auction and a lottery as the first person out of the group brave enough to commit to the place having seen as little as possible gets it. we have good references and wouldn't be using RAS etc. looks like demand is well outstripping supply.

    it's literally looking like living in a hotel for a few weeks is the only viable option.

    /rant

    is it also true about the traffic problem? would be working on the Tramore road and most estate agents are saying if we lived in places like Douglas, Blackrock, Ballincollig, Glanmire, Cobh etc that we would be facing an hour and a half to two hour commute at peak times? this seems crazy when these places are like 10km away.

    is there anywhere that you could live that would be a reasonable commuting distance to the Tramore road, like under an hour? i know maybe our budget is holding us back, but looking at places under €1k per month.

    i know this isn't the accommodation forum but it's kinda motors related!

    If you're commuting to Tramore Road, Douglas or Ballincollig would be your best bet. Houses around Togher/The Lough would already be taken by students. I live 2 minutes from Douglas and even in peak traffic time it usually only takes about 10/15 minutes to get to Tramore Road assuming there isn't any crashes. Blackrock would be a decent call too as it's right next to Mahon/South Link so commute times would be half an hour max I'd say in peak times.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,569 ✭✭✭Special Circumstances


    If all these job announcements come to fruition they'll have to have a tent village out the Lee Fields or convert containers down the port or Ringaskiddy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    If you're commuting to Tramore Road, Douglas or Ballincollig would be your best bet. Houses around Togher/The Lough would already be taken by students. I live 2 minutes from Douglas and even in peak traffic time it usually only takes about 10/15 minutes to get to Tramore Road assuming there isn't any crashes. Blackrock would be a decent call too as it's right next to Mahon/South Link so commute times would be half an hour max I'd say in peak times.

    good to get some insider info like that :)

    the EA's were literally suggesting that times would be in the hours which i did think was a bit far fetched, but i guess nothing would surprise me either?

    would living in Cobh and commuting via the passage west ferry be a fantasy? does that run all year round?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Foxhole Norman


    good to get some insider info like that :)

    the EA's were literally suggesting that times would be in the hours which i did think was a bit far fetched, but i guess nothing would surprise me either?

    would living in Cobh and commuting via the passage west ferry be a fantasy? does that run all year round?

    I reckon it'd be faster to just go straight from Cobh to the Tramore Road due to there usually being huge traffic from Passage to Rochestown/Douglas, especially at school times!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    TFB you think Cork is bad, it's shocking in Dublin. Took me 2 months to get somewhere to live. Been in there a few weeks now and still have no heating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    TFB you think Cork is bad, it's shocking in Dublin. Took me 2 months to get somewhere to live. Been in there a few weeks now and still have no heating.

    Give me Dublin any day, i could live with Mammy and commute :pac:.

    renting in Ireland in general the last year or two is farcical. because there is such demand and such short supply, landlords are renting out absolute sheds for crazy money with a complete take it or leave it approach because they know that if you aren't desperate enough to take it yet, the next victim will be. it's actually disgusting.

    need repair work done? need to speak to your landlord for anything at all? forget about it, might aswell be trying to get through to an english speaking customer service agent with vodafone as trying to get through to the landlord. yet, water charges havn't been paid and my phone is hopping. it works both ways :rolleyes:.

    the place we moved into last year, had to spend a fortune on it in the end just to get it inhabitable, between painting, furniture, appliances, plumbing work, "pest control" etc but we were lucky to get somewhere at all. the landlord must have been delighted getting it back, she got a free renovation thrown in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,569 ✭✭✭Special Circumstances


    Absentee landlords, rack rents, evictions, sh1t wet summer - all we're short is TB outbreak and a potato famine.
    -not sure there's a suitable smiley for this, half joking but things are gone a bit madin this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    yeah, had planned on changing the celicas oil today, but sure it's pissing down.

    i believe petrol is on the way down for a while though :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,902 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    had someone attempt a less than 1 km/h overtake the other day on the motorway, he was slowly gaining on me from the overtaking lane for 2 solid minutes while I had the cruise control on 120.
    there was a truck in my lane doing about 115kmh so had to blast out in front of slow-overtaker to not be caught overtaking the truck for half an hour. lost him in the rear view but lo and behold a minute later there he was coming over the horizon still sitting in the passing lane just doing the 120.5 km/h without a care in the world

    I've had people really slowly overtake before but this time was just comical
    0:25


    :D:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,480 ✭✭✭YbFocus


    He was doing a 0.5km/hr overtake if you were doing 120 and him 120.5 :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,183 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Absentee landlords, rack rents, evictions, sh1t wet summer - all we're short is TB outbreak and a potato famine.
    -not sure there's a suitable smiley for this, half joking but things are gone a bit madin this country.

    Oh Lord WHY?? Why are de spuds rotten in de GROUND?? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,499 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Too soon.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Absentee landlords, rack rents, evictions, sh1t wet summer - all we're short is TB outbreak and a potato famine.
    -not sure there's a suitable smiley for this, half joking but things are gone a bit madin this country.

    438511-Royalty-Free-RF-Clipart-Illustration-Of-A-Peanut-Character-Puking.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,865 ✭✭✭✭MuppetCheck


    good to get some insider info like that :)

    the EA's were literally suggesting that times would be in the hours which i did think was a bit far fetched, but i guess nothing would surprise me either?

    would living in Cobh and commuting via the passage west ferry be a fantasy? does that run all year round?

    Did a similar move lately. We're living in Midleton at the moment (looking to buy ASAP though) and it was chronic trying to find somewhere. I found the estate agents were plain useless. If you know anyone renting up there try and suss out if their landlord has another place. The place we moved I saw online at 6am, drove to cork to see it at 830am and there was six people ahead of me.

    Working where you are I'd look at Pouladuff, Deerpark, Ballinlough, Ballintemple, Turners Cross, Blackrock, The Lough. All close to town, minimal traffic in the direction you're going. You could even cycle.

    Avoid the tunnel if you have a choice now. It can take me an hour between Skehard Road and the tunnel to get from Blackrock to Midleton if I don't leave the office by 430 and its only 20km. I go in for 7 to avoid it in the mornings and evenings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    Car back, fully serviced, new drivers window reg and I'm happy out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    I knew that was coming :D

    At least it's a 6 cylinder!

    Yea but it's just not the same nothing beats the noise of a good petrol engine.

    In saying that the 6 cylinder diesel engine is a million times better than most the diesels I drove.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Guys if you were choosing betweeen verdesteins, Kumhos or Hankooks for new tyres which would you go for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Stheno wrote: »
    Guys if you were choosing betweeen verdesteins, Kumhos or Hankooks for new tyres which would you go for?

    Vredesteins


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,854 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    Yea but it's just not the same nothing beats the noise of a good petrol engine.

    In saying that the 6 cylinder diesel engine is a million times better than most the diesels I drove.

    I've had my fill - RX8, MPS, 335i...I think I'm due a well-earned break from guzzlers :D
    Stheno wrote: »
    Guys if you were choosing betweeen verdesteins, Kumhos or Hankooks for new tyres which would you go for?

    Out of those I would choose Goodyear Eagle F1s :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    Stheno wrote: »
    Guys if you were choosing betweeen verdesteins, Kumhos or Hankooks for new tyres which would you go for?

    The best tyres I've ever had on a car were Verdestein ultrac vortis


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,499 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Stheno wrote: »
    Guys if you were choosing betweeen verdesteins, Kumhos or Hankooks for new tyres which would you go for?

    Vredesteins without hesitation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,865 ✭✭✭fancy pigeon


    Stheno wrote: »
    Guys if you were choosing betweeen verdesteins, Kumhos or Hankooks for new tyres which would you go for?

    The Hankooks I got are serving me well, 225/45 17s, ventus prime. Both in the dry and wet. Nothing negative after 3k miles

    Haven't had the other 2 in this size so can't make comments there

    Want to try Vredesteins or Dunlops the next time though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Foxhole Norman


    Hankook Ventus Evo here too, 255/40's and 235/45. Great grip in the wet and dry and the wear is very good. 9k miles on the rear and 6k on the front so far!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,301 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    Vredistein ultrac sessanta and vorti are both very good. Goodyear eagles I have atm have a noticably wallowy sidewall in comparison even in v2 xl spec.

    Will go vred again next time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭Gavman84


    Met a black Nissan GTR earlier 10 c reg one Irish car and all don't meet too many of them in Cork. Also my tax money came out today!:(


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Gavman84 wrote: »
    Met a black Nissan GTR earlier 10 c reg one Irish car and all don't meet too many of them in Cork. Also my tax money came out today!:(

    Hmm I paid the OHs last night and it came out straight away!

    On the tyres the Vredsteins seem to be winning :) Will check out what ones they are (as in the model) with the tyre guy soon, am not in any huge rush.

    Price wise they were quite reasonable, I have to check the model and compare it with e.g. eiretyres,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭Gavman84


    Must be processing credit card transaction in batches or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,301 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    Camskill sell them cheapest atm


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Camskill sell them cheapest atm

    There's not much difference in it with the exchange rate.

    Camskill are working out at 484.67 for the set of four including delivery, but then I've to get them fitted etc.

    My local tyre place are doing them for 140 each including fitting, so that's 560, and the place is recommended by my mechanic. I'd probably pay close to the €80 difference in price to get them fitted/balanced/disposed of etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,189 ✭✭✭NewApproach


    The best tyres I've ever had on a car were Verdestein ultrac vortis

    Agreed, I'd these on my 330d and they are immense


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