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Can someone make me a programme

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  • Registered Users Posts: 35 vivab13


    Hi everyone, didn't think a new thread necessary but after doing a bit of research the consensus is a 5x5 programme is best for a gym newbie like myself. However, I am playing football (soccer) at a decent level which involves 4 trainings a week at the moment for pre season. My goal is to get stronger for football (physical side of the game I can get pushed off ball, lose aerial battles etc.) Would a 5x5 programme be suitable and would 2 or 3 gym sessions a week be best? Any advice appreciated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    vivab13 wrote: »
    Hi everyone, didn't think a new thread necessary but after doing a bit of research the consensus is a 5x5 programme is best for a gym newbie like myself. However, I am playing football (soccer) at a decent level which involves 4 trainings a week at the moment for pre season. My goal is to get stronger for football (physical side of the game I can get pushed off ball, lose aerial battles etc.) Would a 5x5 programme be suitable and would 2 or 3 gym sessions a week be best? Any advice appreciated.

    Starting strength was specifically written for high school american football players. Most of the relevant info is on the starting strength wiki. Anything that applies to SS will also go for most other 5x5 programs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭rottie 11


    I'm going to have to put this programme on hold for a while I'm afraid. I done the squats Monday and went to soccer training tonight and could barely move. Thighs were still killing me :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,647 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    A supplement called MTFU will sort that out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭rottie 11


    A supplement called MTFU will sort that out

    It's weird tho when I do arm curls I feel nothing the next day.

    I need to focus on getting fit anyway for soccer so il have to put the weights off for a little while


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,075 ✭✭✭Daith


    Brian? wrote: »
    That's all true. But it doesn't tell me why so many people are recommending strong lifts over other 5x5 programmes. I'm not saying it's **** and don't so it, I'm just confused by the popularity of something that's neither the original or the best 5x5.

    For me personally it was because there was an easy to use app I could use on my phone to track everything. Automatically update the weight I was to lift, what exercises to do, kept track of reps etc.

    Now admitted it's paint by numbers but it gave a good starting point and I could then look at Hanleys stuff (or others) and go yeah I could work this out myself now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,403 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    rottie 11 wrote: »
    I need to focus on getting fit anyway for soccer so il have to put the weights off for a little while

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭Nichololas


    Brian? wrote: »
    That's all true. But it doesn't tell me why so many people are recommending strong lifts over other 5x5 programmes. I'm not saying it's **** and don't so it, I'm just confused by the popularity of something that's neither the original or the best 5x5.

    The benefit of it for a newbie program is its simplicity and that it is popular; there's plenty of information about it, and plenty of other people to discuss it with. There are millions of [3|5]x5 programs, for a beginner (I think) it's more important to stick to one program, rather than reading up on a bunch of others which inevitably turns into an "I took day 1 from program A, day 2 from program B, and then combined and added 2 types of biceps curls for day 3" : Stronglifts or starting strength, then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,657 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    rottie 11 wrote: »
    I need to focus on getting fit anyway for soccer so il have to put the weights off for a little while

    Footballlers do a lot of strength and conditioning.

    Improving strength and conditioning in tandem.

    Pretty much what you're looking to do.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭rottie 11


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭rottie 11


    Footballlers do a lot of strength and conditioning.

    Improving strength and conditioning in tandem.

    Pretty much what you're looking to do.

    I know but I'm no where near fit so that is my main objective. Then once I'm some bit fit il go back doing weights


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,403 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    rottie 11 wrote: »
    Thanks lads. Honestly I want to do it right. That's why I'm asking so many questions, I want all the proper info. Once I know how to workout my whole body properly il try to make a programme and stick to it :)
    rottie 11 wrote: »
    I'm going to have to put this programme on hold for a while I'm afraid. I done the squats Monday and went to soccer training tonight and could barely move. Thighs were still killing me :(
    rottie 11 wrote: »
    It's weird tho when I do arm curls I feel nothing the next day.

    I need to focus on getting fit anyway for soccer so il have to put the weights off for a little while

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭rottie 11


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    .

    Ya I went to soccer and realised I won't be able to do both. For now anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,657 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    rottie 11 wrote: »
    I know but I'm no where near fit so that is my main objective. Then once I'm some bit fit il go back doing weights

    My point is they're not mutuallly exclusive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    rottie 11 wrote: »
    As the title says would anyone make out a weights programme for me please.

    I have a bench, dumbells and a curl bar and wana gain upper body muscle.

    Thanks

    What plates you have for the dumbbells?
    As in, are they adjustable?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,647 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Look up youtube for stretching routines and do them every day, regardless of what training you are doing. The stretching will cross over from both squats and deadlifts to football.

    And training legs will help with playing football. Chances of you winning the ball in those 1 on 1 situations will be higher.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭rottie 11


    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    What plates you have for the dumbbells?
    As in, are they adjustable?

    Ya I can take them off the bar. They are the vinyl ones tho


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Irishcrx


    If your serious about football weight training is not only supportive but absolutlely required IMO.

    I play football at least 3 times a week and I'm in the gym 4 mornings a week working out, football gives me my cardio and keeps me fit, weight training keeps me strong and focused, diet is supported and altered depending on the day to give me the right amount of calories and energy.

    I've gained weight , muscle , strength and fitness at the same time. It's about planning , management and dedication.

    It won't slow your progress or stop you getting fit, I even play football on leg days and it's fine.

    Above poster is right , it improves everything , shot power , shoulder strength , keeping the ball , winning the ball , stamina , pace , explosiveness...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,840 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Daith wrote: »
    For me personally it was because there was an easy to use app I could use on my phone to track everything. Automatically update the weight I was to lift, what exercises to do, kept track of reps etc.

    Now admitted it's paint by numbers but it gave a good starting point and I could then look at Hanleys stuff (or others) and go yeah I could work this out myself now.

    What's the app called?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭vigos


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    What's the app called?

    The app is called stronglifts


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,510 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    rottie 11 wrote: »
    I'm going to have to put this programme on hold for a while I'm afraid. I done the squats Monday and went to soccer training tonight and could barely move. Thighs were still killing me :(

    First time squatting you will be crippled for a week. Just keep at it, its never as bad as the first set of leg doms.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    I'd start off with bodyweight exercises

    lunges
    squats
    single leg deadlifts
    push ups
    pull ups
    horizontal pull ups

    then you can start adding weight to the exercises
    single leg exercises are easy to do with dumbbells and actually are more sport specific than two legged exercises
    so
    Work Out 1
    warm up (eg skipping)
    stretch
    some core work - 30 second hold plank & side plank, russian twists x 30. 3 rounds
    then something like 3x8 of lunges, 3x8 of pull ups and then add in something like shoulder press, dumbbell curls or chair dips to work those upper body muscles you mentioned in your first post
    cool down

    Work Out 2
    warm up
    stretch
    core work - bridging 3 x 8 reps, spiderman walks, hollow holds 30 secs. 3 rounds altogether
    squats (bodyweight or weighted), horizontal pull ups, push ups and add in a few upper body exercises as above

    keep it simple.


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