Type of levels you hate?

CastorTroy

Escort missions. Games based around escorting, like Ico, are grand but I'll never forget escorting Socrates in Spartan Total Warrior "Spartan, help me!" The words haunt me to this day. I would be killing bad guys and he would run on to activate the next ones off screen. And if I managed to get ahead of him to kill the bad guys, ones would randomly appear back with him and kill him.

I don't mind water levels too much as long as there is at least some control and the camera doesn't go all crazy on you. Besides, as I've said before, one of my proudest achievements was finishing the Water Temple without

the Blue Tunic.

Tower defense can be a pain as well as having to win a race to proceed

Oafley Jones

We'll just take all your weapons for the next bit because we're out of original ideas.

degrassinoel

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Dream or nightmare levels.

Max Payne and Mass Effect 3 did those extremely well, but overall yeah they generally suck

Robert ninja

degrassinoel wrote: »

Max Payne and Mass Effect 3 did those extremely well, but overall yeah they generally suck

And technically, 90% of Hitman: Contract's levels are dreams :eek:

Penn

Oafley Jones wrote: »

We'll just take all your weapons for the next bit because we're out of original ideas.

Or similar, you start the game fully powered up, then after the first level, get all your weapons/abilities taken away from you and have to get them back throughout the rest of the game.

Stone Deaf 4evr

I hate when platformers eventually end up in a level that looks like hell- lava etc. its totally depressing.

Ant695

degrassinoel wrote: »

Max Payne and Mass Effect 3 did those extremely well, but overall yeah they generally suck

As did scarecrow levels in Arkham Asylum.

Also I hate in racing games where the first race is a pretty decent car then you win and buy your own car and go from really fast to slow as **** all of a sudden. Like you should just have a normal slow car right from the start if that's what they're gonna do.

the groutch

Auto-scrollers, especially the Murder Wall/Wall Of Death in Kid Chameleon.

Zillah

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

I hate when platformers eventually end up in a level that looks like hell- lava etc. its totally depressing.

I kind of like it. You aint in Kansas anymore, Mario!

kunst nugget

Levels where you're sliding down a wall or floating down a river and you have to enjoy various objects.

Robsweezie

i found the helicopter missions in GTA 5 to be a pain in the hole.

hidinginthebush

I hate the first level that has crept into nearly every game where you have to go through some sort of tutorial to learn how the controller works, even though the buttons are pretty much the same for every game you pick up.

elekid

Darkness levels. Not being able to see what you're doing just isn't fun.

Aimead

elekid wrote: »

Darkness levels. Not being able to see what you're doing just isn't fun.

Especially when you have a shoite monitor or laptop screen.

CastorTroy

Penn wrote: »

Or similar, you start the game fully powered up, then after the first level, get all your weapons/abilities taken away from you and have to get them back throughout the rest of the game.

So you wouldn't like the Metroid games. Brilliant games.

bur

Drift events in racing games.

Penn

CastorTroy wrote: »

So you wouldn't like the Metroid games. Brilliant games.

Never played them. I have still liked games where that has happened, it's just annoying when it does happen.

Aimead

Penn wrote: »

Never played them. I have still liked games where that has happened, it's just annoying when it does happen.

I remember one of the Tomb Raider games where you could choose the order in which you completed three of the levels. I had left that Military one until last, and as a result lost the stockpile I had built. That was annoying.

Penn

Aimead wrote: »

I remember one of the Tomb Raider games where you could choose the order in which you completed three of the levels. I had left that Military one until last, and as a result lost the stockpile I had built. That was annoying.

The main ones that come to mind are some of the Assassin's Creed games. The first one, you start as a Master Assassin with all equipment, but then it's all taken away form you and you have to earn it all back. Similar enough in AC Brotherhood & Revelations, where you start with equipment/abilities you earned in a previous game, then it's taken away from you.

Ant695

Penn wrote: »

The main ones that come to mind are some of the Assassin's Creed games. The first one, you start as a Master Assassin with all equipment, but then it's all taken away form you and you have to earn it all back. Similar enough in AC Brotherhood & Revelations, where you start with equipment/abilities you earned in a previous game, then it's taken away from you.

My biggest problem with the AC games were the defence missions where you had yo stand on a roof and order your soldiers to attack specific areas. Hated those.

hidinginthebush

hidinginthebush wrote: »

I hate the first level that has crept into nearly every game where you have to go through some sort of tutorial to learn how the controller works, even though the buttons are pretty much the same for every game you pick up.

Every game is someones first game so tutorial levels are a necessary evil.

cruizer101

Retr0gamer

Deleted User wrote: »

Every game is someones first game so tutorial levels are a necessary evil.

There's tutorial levels where you don't know the game is teaching you, like the first world of any Nintendo game or the opening level of Halo. Then there's press forward to walk forward spelled out in big stupid text boxes while everything is doled out to you like a baby. The difference between the two is using some actual game design talent.

Creamy Goodness

Super Meat Boy is another great example of a game leading you through a tutorial without you knowing it. Tutorials that hand hold the player through a set of pre-defined corridors/actions is nothing but laziness.

Gregk961

Obviously an extremely common one but any dark dungeon lit by torchlight. Nobody has ever thought "wow im having great fun out here in this colourful world, but what I really need now is a brown dungeon to amble through". Absolute filler, can have hours of gameplay in virtually the same place and seems to escape criticism in any critically successful game. Skyrim was an immense game but some of those dungeons made me want to self harm.

Darkglasses

Anything where you have to rely on badly programmed AI team-mates.

"All you had to do was follow the train CJ"

CastorTroy

Retr0gamer wrote: »

There's tutorial levels where you don't know the game is teaching you, like the first world of any Nintendo game or the opening level of Halo. Then there's press forward to walk forward spelled out in big stupid text boxes while everything is doled out to you like a baby. The difference between the two is using some actual game design talent.

At work so can't confirm it's the video I want but I believe it is. Shows how Megaman X didn't hold your hand but taught you how to play. Similar to, as you said, Nintendo games like how Mario teaches you jumping, enemies, defeating enemies and power ups all in the first couple screens

Retr0gamer

That's the video alright. Those types of tutorial levels these days are what stop me playing a lot of games. Back in ye olde days I'd be bored and put on a game to try out. 5 hours later I'd be hooked. Nowadays I stick on a game for a quick go and then 5 minutes later 'meh can't be bothered playing the tutorial until it gets good, I'll watch Emmerdale instead'. Even games with too much exposition before they get going is annoying. Game devs, nobody is 'playing' your game to see your crappy aspirations of being a hollywood director.

TL;DR More games need opening tutorial levels where you split a Metal Gear Ray in two.

um7y1h83ge06nx

Ah Megaman X, think I sold that game back in the day as I finished it, big regret, would love to play it now

Robsweezie

Oafley Jones wrote: »

We'll just take all your weapons for the next bit because we're out of original ideas.

I think they do this as a plot point to show the character at their most vulnerable.


I hated the mission structure of the GTAs on the ps2. Fail a mission, go all the way back to big smokes house to initiate it. Fail it again, back to big smoke. and no autosave meaning you cant just go back to the start of said mission. Red Dead, LA Noire and GTA 5 had the right idea with the option to skip missions after three failed attempts, and stay in the mission once failed unless you opt out yourself.

I have no time for games with sh!t checkpoint systems that punish you for failing, especially when you just want to advance the story.