Hey, need help with a new build.

dman93

Hey guys I think I read right to make a new thread and include as much info as possible so i will just follow the format given


1. What is your budget? [€1500]

2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? [Gaming,internet}(games include anything current battlefeild, grand theft auto 5 etc)

3. Do you need a copy of Windows? [No]

4. Can you use any parts from an old computer? [I have a new 1tb hard drive sitting in a broken mac which could be used maybe)

5. Do you need a monitor? [Yes]

5a. If yes, what size do you need. [24 and above is fine]

5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future? []

6. Do you need any of these peripherals? [Keyboard/Mouse/Wireless Card/Card Reader/Speakers/etc.] (I just need a wirless card)

7. Are you willing to try overclocking? [Yes]

8. How can you pay? [Bank Transfer/Credit Card/Laser](all off these)

9. When are you purchasing? [40-50]

10. If you need help building it, where are you based? [South Dublin City/Cork City/Kerry/etc.]

Digital Solitude

Thats the style

GTX 980 €450
Z97 board €90
Cooler €50
i7 4790k €360
Case €100
500w PSU €60
8gb RAM €50
512gb SSD €175
Total €1335 I think

1080p monitor is €150 or so.

Can carry the HDD from your Mac if you want, a 2tb Drive is €90 either so I can put one in your budget if you'd prefer.

What's wrong with the Mac by the way?

Any questions ask away.

dman93

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Thats the style

GTX 980 €450
Z97 board €90
Cooler €50
i7 4790k €360
Case €100
500w PSU €60
8gb RAM €50
512gb SSD €175
Total €1335 I think

1080p monitor is €150 or so.

Can carry the HDD from your Mac if you want, a 2tb Drive is €90 either so I can put one in your budget if you'd prefer.

What's wrong with the Mac by the way?

Any questions ask away.

Well not 100 % sure, it comes on for maybe 10 mins or so then the screen goes black but if I shine I torch to the screen I can see the text on screen dimly. Also the screen stays on with brightness all the way down. It's very strange. Plus the imac works perfectly on external monitor with no black outs it's just the actual monitor that goes black. Hey BTW any idea where the best place to get these parts. Thanks man

Digital Solitude

Something with the LCD, shouldn't be a really expensive fix. I'd dig into myself in your shoes, you'll get rode at any "Apple Specialist" stores.

Amazon.de is fairly good, mindfactory, computeruniverse, alternate and caseking are all grand too.

dman93

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Something with the LCD, shouldn't be a really expensive fix. I'd dig into myself in your shoes, you'll get rode at any "Apple Specialist" stores.

Amazon.de is fairly good, mindfactory, computeruniverse, alternate and caseking are all grand too.

This might sound stupid. But I am a complete noob at this but is any cooler around 50 good or is a certain one better for the parts listed. Detailed like that would be great if you can. I know all about Apple riding me.. 90 euro just to look at my machine before the even opened it and a 300 euro bill to change the hard drive. Luckily I complained to Apple and they refunded it.

Digital Solitude

I'm heading out for a few scoops I'll throw some manufacturers up tomorrow if someone doesn't beat me to it!

wotzgoingon

dman93 wrote: »

This might sound stupid. But I am a complete noob at this but is any cooler around 50 good or is a certain one better for the parts listed.

Coolermaster is good so is Noctua, the dearer ones may have a quieter fan while cheaper ones may not, but that is not always the case. Make sure you get one that fits your CPU socket. I think yours is 1150.

Digital Solitude

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Thats the style

GTX 980 €450 MSI, Gigabyte, ASUS, evga
Z97 board €90 see above
Cooler €50 BeQuiet, cooler master, noctua
i7 4790k €360
Case €100 Bitfenix, Fractal, there's tonnes
500w PSU €60 BeQuiet
8gb RAM €50 crucial
512gb SSD €175 Crucial, Samsung, Kingston
Total €1335 I think

1080p monitor is €150 or so.

Can carry the HDD from your Mac if you want, a 2tb Drive is €90 either so I can put one in your budget if you'd prefer.

What's wrong with the Mac by the way?

Any questions ask away.

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TerrorFirmer

I wouldn't bother with the 4790K, makes no sense really. Stick with the i5-4690K, almost 100 less and identical games performance.

You could also ditch the GTX980 and go for GTX970 SLi and get a 750W Corsair PSU for about 80.

Still within budget and way, way faster. Or else stick with a single GTX970 and treat yourself to nice 1440P monitor.

Either way I wouldn't count the 980 or i7 the best use of money really.

dman93

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

I wouldn't bother with the 4790K, makes no sense really. Stick with the i5-4690K, almost 100 less and identical games performance.

You could also ditch the GTX980 and go for GTX970 SLi and get a 750W Corsair PSU for about 80.

Still within budget and way, way faster. Or else stick with a single GTX970 and treat yourself to nice 1440P monitor.

Either way I wouldn't count the 980 or i7 the best use of money really.

The gtx970 sli is a bit expensive together I dunno if its possible to stay in budget there..

dman93

Digital Solitude wrote: »

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hey I was wondering if what this guy said is good advice, and if so how can I get sli with that card and stay on budget I cant seem to do it.

dman93

Digital Solitude wrote: »

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hey I was wondering if what this guy said is good advice, and if so how can I get sli with that card and stay on budget I cant seem to do it.

quote from guy "I wouldn't bother with the 4790K, makes no sense really. Stick with the i5-4690K, almost 100 less and identical games performance.

You could also ditch the GTX980 and go for GTX970 SLi and get a 750W Corsair PSU for about 80.

Still within budget and way, way faster. Or else stick with a single GTX970 and treat yourself to nice 1440P monitor.

Either way I wouldn't count the 980 or i7 the best use of money really.
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Digital Solitude

Eh I'll have to change the build a little bit, I'll have a look later and see what I can do. He is right though, generally when Terror corrects something I've said its a good correction. A lot of people don't like usin SLI for driver problems or unsupported games so I normally don't recommend it.

You could go with one 970 on an SLI ready motherboard and add a second card in 2 years or so, which would bring you easily into budget.

dman93

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Eh I'll have to change the build a little bit, I'll have a look later and see what I can do. He is right though, generally when Terror corrects something I've said its a good correction. A lot of people don't like usin SLI for driver problems or unsupported games so I normally don't recommend it.

You could go with one 970 on an SLI ready motherboard and add a second card in 2 years or so, which would bring you easily into budget.

Thanks alot, this is the build I have so far http: //d.pr/i/1gDOF would this be good cause I seem to have kept it in budget.

Digital Solitude

i5 4460 €185
GTX 970 €350
1tb HDD €50
8gb RAM €50
500w PSU €60
H97 board €120
case €100
250gb SSD €90
Monitor €150
Total €1150 rough

Can add another 970 and a 750w if wanted but you'll go a little over. I'd say a single 970 and upgrade in future is a good job for now, get a new PSU with that.

Can get a 1440p monitor on that budget if wanted.

TerrorFirmer

I think that's a better rounded build seeing as you can fit a nice 1440p monitor in there now for the €1500. A GTX980 isn't that much faster than a GTX970, and the i7-4790 is pretty much zero faster than the 4690K in games.

If you get a decent Sli motherboard now, you can add a second GTX970 down the line. If doing dual card setup, Nvidia are a better bet than AMD, but it also does depend on the games you're playing. If you're into playing AAA titles, the chances are the games will be supported, but lesser known and indie titles may have patchy dual card support. That said however, a single GTX970 will be good for games for a few years effortlessly enough.

Digital Solitude

Would you go for the 4460 or 4690k Terror? Assuming he'll have a Z97 anyways

Redfox25

With that sort of a budget you should be hitting 1440p rather than 1080p.

dman93

Redfox25 wrote: »

With that sort of a budget you should be hitting 1440p rather than 1080p.

Well so far that is what I am try to do.

dman93

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Would you go for the 4460 or 4690k Terror? Assuming he'll have a Z97 anyways

I was wondering that mb can do sli or would I have to get another

TerrorFirmer

I would take the 4690K simply because your budget is so high, it makes sense to get it over a non-overclockable i5. It won't actually need to be overclocked for quite a long time as the i5 line performs so strongly in games, but when it does, overclocking these days is totally removed from what overclocking used to be. It's incredibly simple.

I would avoid the GTX980 because the large price premium isn't reflected in the performance versus the 970, really. GTX970 in SLI is very fast and again it will work in the vast majority of big releases - but admittedly support can be patchy in lesser known titles and the occasional better known ones.

This is a rough spec I would look at for your budget, and you can add a second 970 down the line as needs be. If you want to shave off money, you could drop to 120GB + 1TB HD combo, drop to an i5-4460 and more basic board, get a €70 case, and come in at about €1300. Performance would be the same but you would lose the overclocking ability which will length the lifespan of the processor in a few years.

But as far as the €1500 goes....

i5 4690K €280
GTX 970 €350
1tb HDD €50
8gb RAM €50
750w PSU €80
Z97 board €110
Case €100
250gb SSD €90
1440p Monitor €400

Total €1510 rough

Digital Solitude

With the budget like yours in sure you can spare a tenner to reach terrors build

The i5 4690k is currently €233 delivered on amazon.es so that'll free up room too. I'd buy that immediately before it changes.

dman93

Digital Solitude wrote: »

With the budget like yours in sure you can spare a tenner to reach terrors build

The i5 4690k is currently €233 delivered on amazon.es so that'll free up room too. I'd buy that immediately before it changes.

Hey, thanks for the help, I put this together (sorry about 3 screenshots btw) but anything about this I can change or make better would be appreciated

http /d.pr/i/oE7a
http /d.pr/i/ezbq
http /d.pr/i/1bMhO

Came to 1620 euro with shipping, which I can do, but anything to save a bit without sacrifice to performance would be great.

Digital Solitude

Dropping to 8gb RAM and leaving out the cooler should give you €85 or so

Crucial and Kingston make cheaper SSDs than Samsung, who's 840 Evos aren't great anyways. Knock another few quid off there.

dman93

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Dropping to 8gb RAM and leaving out the cooler should give you €85 or so

Crucial and Kingston make cheaper SSDs than Samsung, who's 840 Evos aren't great anyways. Knock another few quid off there.

Nice that knocked about 100 euro of there. But how come I can get rid of the cooler? And I was wondering did i pick everything alright like can that mb do sli with that same card when i decide to get another card.

Digital Solitude

The CPU comes with a cooler. When the day you need to overclock it comes along, then buy a cooler.

I'd say so, I'll have to have a look at the board in a bit

Redfox25

Which monitor would you recomended terror/digital?

Digital Solitude

Monitors aren't something I know an awful lot about. Next to nothing in fact :pac: So I'll stay out of this one.

The board is fine for SLI OP