Homeless

kingsofoffaly

Seen a homeless couple with 3 filled trolleys today on the main shopping street. The woman is pregnant, seemly the council won't help and they were living with the woman's boss in a flat, paying him rent every week and seemly never paid the rent at all and owes the landlord a lot of money and has done a runner and a runner from his company. Opinions ?

crazy_kenny

kingsofoffaly wrote: »

Seen a homeless couple with 3 filled trolleys today on the main shopping street. The woman is pregnant, seemly the council won't help and they were living with the woman's boss in a flat, paying him rent every week and seemly never paid the rent at all and owes the landlord a lot of money and has done a runner and a runner from his company. Opinions ?

Mind your own business

kingsofoffaly

crazy_kenny wrote: »

Mind your own business

Why I'm sad to see this happening 😔

Digital Society

Stealing trolleys is a criminal offence.

crazy_kenny

kingsofoffaly wrote: »

Why I'm sad to see this happening 😔

Indeed it is very sad to see it happening but much homelessness can be attributed to poor choices by individuals.

jayboi

kingsofoffaly wrote: »

Seen a homeless couple with 3 filled trolleys today on the main shopping street. The woman is pregnant, seemly the council won't help and they were living with the woman's boss in a flat, paying him rent every week and seemly never paid the rent at all and owes the landlord a lot of money and has done a runner and a runner from his company. Opinions ?

Right here's what I think is wrong with what you've posted

Seen a homeless couple with 3 filled trolleys today on the main shopping street. The woman is pregnant, seemly the council won't help and they were living with the woman's boss in a flat, paying him rent every week and seemly he (the woman's boss) never paid the rent at all and owes the landlord a lot of money and has done a runner and a runner from his company. Opinions

Why cant they just get their own place by the sounds of it they don't owe the landlord anything?

kingsofoffaly

jayboi wrote: »

Right here's what I think is wrong with what you've posted

Seen a homeless couple with 3 filled trolleys today on the main shopping street. The woman is pregnant, seemly the council won't help and they were living with the woman's boss in a flat, paying him rent every week and seemly he (the woman's boss) never paid the rent at all and owes the landlord a lot of money and has done a runner and a runner from his company. Opinions

Why cant they just get their own place by the sounds of it they don't owe the landlord anything?

I don't know just what I was told was the story

longshanks

Does anyone speak Offaly?

Second Toughest in_the Freshers

offaly quiet or offaly loud?

(or just offaly, in general)

Poor Uncle Tom

kingsofoffaly wrote: »

Seen a homeless couple with 3 filled trolleys today on the main shopping street.

The woman is pregnant, seemly the council won't help and they were living with the woman's boss in a flat, paying him rent every week and seemly never paid the rent at all and owes the landlord a lot of money and has done a runner and a runner from his company. Opinions ?

Throw out a soundbite to get an emotive reaction

kingsofoffaly wrote: »

Seen a homeless couple

How do you know they were homeless?

kingsofoffaly wrote: »

...on the main shopping street.

Where exactly is that in Waterford?

kingsofoffaly wrote: »

The woman is pregnant, seemly the council won't help

Have the council branched out?

kingsofoffaly wrote: »

they were living with the woman's boss in a flat, paying him rent every week and seemly never paid the rent at all and owes the landlord a lot of money and has done a runner and a runner from his company. Opinions ?

Nice little anecdote, but seems to pick up the story quite late on, where were they living before this? how did they come to only have the choice of moving in with 'the boss'? where are social services in all this? where are their individual families?

In current economic times it's hard to have sympathy for everyone who is down on their luck, but given snippets of stories like this it is impossible to even have empathy as it's obviously not the full story, not by a long shot.

kingsofoffaly

No need for people to be rude here. I'm only saying what I had seen and been told. I felt sorry for them.

sparkling sea

If you see them again maybe you might tell them they can contact either or all off these

The Homeless Services Officer, Bailey's New Street

Focus

Simon

St Vincent DePaul.

All of these organisations can provide emergency accommodation.

I think its very sad to see anyone in this situation.

Wanderer78

ireland better get ready for this catastrophe unfolding im afraid

obezyana

Wanderer78 wrote: »

ireland better get ready for this catastrophe unfolding im afraid

Hopefully it wont explode like it is on the verge of. Some people are giving in to the banks to easily. I understand people got themselves in trouble by being reckless but at the same time there is a huge amount who have lost jobs businesses gone to the wall etc. It is a sad thing to see. Hopefully people fight their corner and things work out.

Wanderer78

obezyana wrote: »

Hopefully it wont explode like it is on the verge of. Some people are giving in to the banks to easily. I understand people got themselves in trouble by being reckless but at the same time there is a huge amount who have lost jobs businesses gone to the wall etc. It is a sad thing to see. Hopefully people fight their corner and things work out.

this is a total disaster. the banks simply dont care. they just want to maximise their profits and thats just about it. ah there was a bit of recklessness alright but the whole market was and still is orchestrated. i was at a very interesting talk about all this at last years kilkenomics. very disturbing debate to be honest. i fear the crunch point here will be the interest rate.

Wanderer78

Wanderer78 wrote: »

this is a total disaster. the banks simply dont care. they just want to maximise their profits and thats just about it. ah there was a bit of recklessness alright but the whole market was and still is orchestrated. i was at a very interesting talk about all this at last years kilkenomics. very disturbing debate to be honest. i fear the crunch point here will be the interest rate.

This has nothing to do with the banks/politicians/irish water/guards. I have saw this status shared so many times on facebook and all the comments blaming banks/politicians/Irish water is so irritating.

There has been a go fund me page started to help her and to be honest, I don't see why she is sitting around city square with her stuff. Surely she has family in Manchester that can help her and if not there is help out there.

Also this link below is her.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/appeal-help-find-missing-woman-8001297

Wanderer78

Deleted User wrote: »

This has nothing to do with the banks/politicians/irish water/guards. I have saw this status shared so many times on facebook and all the comments blaming banks/politicians/Irish water is so irritating.

There has been a go fund me page started to help her and to be honest, I don't see why she is sitting around city square with her stuff. Surely she has family in Manchester that can help her and if not there is help out there.

Also this link below is her.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/appeal-help-find-missing-woman-8001297

apologies but i know nothing about this exact situation but my opinions on the general homeless problem developing at the moment still stands. thanks for the link. i ll check it out

beyondbelief67

The link about the missing person is from last year and she was found safe and well ? I deleted a comment I put about how she wasn't exactly hiding when I saw them a few days ago by the book centre I really hope they get some help soon.

beyondbelief67

beyondbelief67 wrote: »

Is this definetley the same person missing from Tameside as with the shopping trolleys though as they were hardly hiding a few days ago ?
They were by the book centre with their belongings and trolleys talking to a lot of people with signs written on the trolleys ?

Apparently so, there is a go fund me for Gemma at the moment. She was pregnant again last year according to that article and she was living in Manchester. For someone who hasn't been living in Waterford very long she seems to be making a lot of demands. Surely the cost of a plane ticket home could be given to her, so she can return to her family.

Stheno

Deleted User wrote: »

Apparently so, there is a go fund me for Gemma at the moment. She was pregnant again last year according to that article and she was living in Manchester. For someone who hasn't been living in Waterford very long she seems to be making a lot of demands. Surely the cost of a plane ticket home could be given to her, so she can return to her family.

This may be the same lady who appeared on my facebook feed this evening, living on the streets in Waterford with a pile of shopping trolleys, with two previous children who were taken off her?

Why she can't get benefits is beyond me, if it's the same person apparently her partner is Irish, is it a habitual residence issue?

Stheno

Stheno wrote: »

This may be the same lady who appeared on my facebook feed this evening, living on the streets in Waterford with a pile of shopping trolleys, with two previous children who were taken off her?

Why she can't get benefits is beyond me, if it's the same person apparently her partner is Irish, is it a habitual residence issue?

I'd say so because in the newspapers articles she was living in England up to a few months ago. You have to be resident of the state for a certain period before you can claim social welfare if I'm not mistaken.

Making the square look bad, her stuff needs to be taken away.

beyondbelief67

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Apparently so, there is a go fund me for Gemma at the moment. She was pregnant again last year according to that article and she was living in Manchester. For someone who hasn't been living in Waterford very long she seems to be making a lot of demands. Surely the cost of a plane ticket home could be given to her, so she can return to her family.

That link to the missing pregnant lady is from last year she was found the day after the appeal was posted ? I deleted my post to state that.

Stheno

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd say so because in the newspapers articles she was living in England up to a few months ago. You have to be resident of the state for a certain period before you can claim social welfare if I'm not mistaken.

Making the square look bad, her stuff needs to be taken away.

If the feed on my facebook is true, and she's had two children forcibly taken away by the state in the UK, then she has some serious issues.

beyondbelief67

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'd say so because in the newspapers articles she was living in England up to a few months ago. You have to be resident of the state for a certain period before you can claim social welfare if I'm not mistaken.

Making the square look bad, her stuff needs to be taken away.

If your from UK you can put in a claim the same day, but from the date on those newspaper clippings that's October last year ?

beyondbelief67

beyondbelief67 wrote: »

If your from UK you can put in a claim the same day, but from the date on those newspaper clippings that's October last year ?

Yeah she was 9 months pregnant back then. September this year she is well along again and has no kid with her.

Stheno

beyondbelief67 wrote: »

That link to the missing pregnant lady is from last year she was found the day after the appeal was posted ? I deleted my post to state that.

She's had enough time to get pregnant again and move over here in the intervening period.

Being from the UK she should be able to access benefits.

Something not right here, and I don't mean ra limits or the like, just something about her as a person, she may need psychiatric help

beyondbelief67

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yeah she was 9 months pregnant back then. September this year she is well along again and has no kid with her.

But how can they be missing in plain sight ?

Stheno

Stheno wrote: »

She's had enough time to get pregnant again and move over here in the intervening period.

Being from the UK she should be able to access benefits.

Something not right here, and I don't mean ra limits or the like, just something about her as a person, she may need psychiatric help

Yeah that seems likely the way the articles were worded. Hopefully she has some family that cares and might help her out.

beyondbelief67

beyondbelief67 wrote: »

But how can they be missing in plain sight ?

How can who be missing in plain sight, not following you?

Stheno

beyondbelief67 wrote: »

But how can they be missing in plain sight ?

According to the feed on my facebook, page, her last two children have been forcibly taken into care

Is this her?

photo snipped

beyondbelief67

[Deleted User] wrote: »

How can who be missing in plain sight, not following you?

If people are saying she's missing I don't understand how when they are there for a few days Infont of the book centre ?