All Stars Hurling 2015

Mountainlad

Fairly sure there is no thread on this. That time of the year again to start guessing.

1. Colm Callanan (Galway)
2. Paul Murphy (Kilkenny)
3. Joey Holden (Kilkenny)
4. Cathal Barrett (Tipperary)
5. Daithi Burke (Galway)
6. Tadhg Bourke (Waterford)
7. Cillian Buckley (Kilkenny)
8. Michael Fennelly (Kilkenny)
9. Conor Fogarty (Kilkenny)
10. John O Dwyer (Tipperary)
11. Richie Hogan (Kilkenny)
12. TJ Reid (Kilkenny)
13. Cathal Mannion (Galway)
14. Seamus Callanan (Tipperary)
15. Maurice Shanahan (Waterford)

POTY= Richie Hogan
YPOTY= Cathal Mannion

Kilkenny=7
Galway=3
Tipp=3
Waterford=2

Would say that Jason Flynn, Joe Canning (if he has any sort of a game no doubt he'll feature), Andy Smyth, David Burke and Johnny Coen would be in contention if Galway manage to pull off a win.

For Kilkenny I think that Ger Aylward and maybe Padraig Walsh have a chance to get their names in.

Figsy32

I'd probably get Andy Smyth or David Burke in midfield instead of Fennelly who looked a little off the pace to me against Waterford but that's a fair enough team as it stands I would say.

donnem33

Figsy32 wrote: »

I'd probably get Andy Smyth or David Burke in midfield instead of Fennelly who looked a little off the pace to me against Waterford but that's a fair enough team as it stands I would say.

I thought Fennelly had a monster of a game against waterford until the last 10 mins when he tired due to lack of training!!

at the moment however I wouldnt name him as an all star but it all depends on how the final goes!! same for a few more positions!! realistically galway and kk will have approx 11/12 between them and with waterford and tipp getting the remaining spots! after bubbles performance last sun i dont think he will feature!

Fireball07

It really has been an uninspiring year for hurling, bar the semi-final the last day. A lot of one-sided matches. And while there have been plenty of good individual performances, you're more likely to take note of them in tight matches.


I would say that Maurice is a certainty, I would say Callanan is too, TJ Reid definitely is and I'd imagine both Hogan & Mannion are.

That leaves one place in the forwards. Bubbles was class in Munster, but that was only two games and was poor against Galway. Place open for a big performance, particularly from a Galway player- Canning is a pundit's favourite after all- Flynn & Glynn have had their moments too. It will come down to final performance, I think, I don't see Bubbles getting it- I'd say Aylward is most likely from a KK point of view. I wouldn't completely write off one of the other Waterford forwards either- Brick got through a mountain of work this year, as did Jake Dillon.


Midfield seems to go to KK by default, although thus far, Jamie Barron gives them a serious run for their money, Kevin Moran too. Fennelly missed the Leinster final after all, so he'll need a good final to ensure his spot. David Burke will be there or thereabouts too.


Buckley & De Burca are nailed-on certainties. Daithi Burke, Padraig Walsh, Austin Gleeson will be close. Paudie Maher won't get it after his semi-final performance, I wouldn't think. Gleeson is a big favourite of the media too, which does play a part sometimes and he did have a good year.

In the backline, poor Padraig Mannion has been Galway's best back so far but he was so thoroughly dismantled by Callanan, he has no hope, much like Shane O'Neill in 2013. Barrett was excellent against Galway, I'd give him a big shout. Hard to look beyond Paul Murphy. James Barry & Joey Holden have both been solid but I wouldn't say there's been a standout full-back this year. Noel Connors will miss out but will be unlucky. Coen has an outside chance of surpassing Barrett if he has a big final.


Goalkeeper between Callanan & Gleeson, but Callanan has to be a firm favourite.



There are no players beyond the four semi-finalists that you'd even halfway consider. Cork were so dire against Galway that it nullifies any decent performances, Limerick, Clare & Wexford were simply very poor, Dublin were a bit more respectable but I still can't think of any players that would even begin to push for a place.



I'd say TJ is out in front for POTY atm, Richie Hogan a big contender. If Galway were to actually beat Kilkenny, I'm not sure if one of their players would get the spot. Maybe Cathal Mannion or Colm Callanan? It would depend on what those KK lads do in the final too.


Mannion must be favourite for YPOTY, along with De Burca (he was U-21 this year, wasn't he). Gleeson will round out the nominees, I'd say.

Mountainlad

Mark Schutte is an honourable mention think he acquitted himself very well in every game he played in but doubt Dublin will get an all star, hard to politically serve everyone fairly between League, Leinster, Munster champs and Galway. We could potentially have a different winner of all the major championships this year, I wonder would that put all the talk of championship structures and a really bad championship into perspective Anyway I digress.

thinkstoomuch1

Mountainlad wrote: »

Fairly sure there is no thread on this. That time of the year again to start guessing.

1. Colm Callanan (Galway)
2. Paul Murphy (Kilkenny)
3. Joey Holden (Kilkenny)
4. Cathal Barrett (Tipperary)
5. Daithi Burke (Galway)
6. Tadhg Bourke (Waterford)
7. Cillian Buckley (Kilkenny)
8. Michael Fennelly (Kilkenny)
9. Conor Fogarty (Kilkenny)
10. John O Dwyer (Tipperary)
11. Richie Hogan (Kilkenny)
12. TJ Reid (Kilkenny)
13. Cathal Mannion (Galway)
14. Seamus Callanan (Tipperary)
15. Maurice Shanahan (Waterford)

POTY= Richie Hogan
YPOTY= Cathal Mannion

Kilkenny=7
Galway=3
Tipp=3
Waterford=2

Would say that Jason Flynn, Joe Canning (if he has any sort of a game no doubt he'll feature), Andy Smyth, David Burke and Johnny Coen would be in contention if Galway manage to pull off a win.

For Kilkenny I think that Ger Aylward and maybe Padraig Walsh have a chance to get their names in.

I'd have no problem that team but Gleasson who was good v kk tells lot but all season imo has be on team some where

Mountainlad

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

I'd have no problem that team but Gleasson who was good v kk tells lot but all season imo has be on team some where

Who would you drop? Don't think Waterford will get more than two, for me Bourke was better than him. Absolutely sensational in the Munster Final, Aussie was ok at best.

citykat

Unless a new sweeper position is up for grabs don't see how you could make a case for de Burca. He looked good but in truth if there's nobody marking you or you don't have to mark someone, you're gonna look good.

MfMan

Mountainlad wrote: »

Fairly sure there is no thread on this. That time of the year again to start guessing.

1. Colm Callanan (Galway)
2. Paul Murphy (Kilkenny)
3. Joey Holden (Kilkenny)
4. Cathal Barrett (Tipperary)
5. Daithi Burke (Galway)
6. Tadhg Bourke (Waterford)
7. Cillian Buckley (Kilkenny)
8. Michael Fennelly (Kilkenny)
9. Conor Fogarty (Kilkenny)
10. John O Dwyer (Tipperary)
11. Richie Hogan (Kilkenny)
12. TJ Reid (Kilkenny)
13. Cathal Mannion (Galway)
14. Seamus Callanan (Tipperary)
15. Maurice Shanahan (Waterford)

POTY= Richie Hogan
YPOTY= Cathal Mannion

Kilkenny=7
Galway=3
Tipp=3
Waterford=2

Would say that Jason Flynn, Joe Canning (if he has any sort of a game no doubt he'll feature), Andy Smyth, David Burke and Johnny Coen would be in contention if Galway manage to pull off a win.

For Kilkenny I think that Ger Aylward and maybe Padraig Walsh have a chance to get their names in.

Close enough I'd say, but with Galway-bias would have Jason Flynn edging out Bubbles at the moment, he's really been significant in practically all Galway's c'ship games to date. Also think Andy Smith would be ahead of Fennelly, the latter has only had 2 (?) games so far whereas Smith has quietly been a mainstay all through. Hanbury for the FB line? Actually really quite good v Cork and Tipp.

Mountainlad

citykat wrote: »

Unless a new sweeper position is up for grabs don't see how you could make a case for de Burca. He looked good but in truth if there's nobody marking you or you don't have to mark someone, you're gonna look good.

He's had to play in between the lines to cut out the delivery and deny the goal threat, Waterford conceded 2 goals from play in 4 games. There's also limited space in a forward line so it's not like he was standing on his own without anybody near him.

How many balls did he hit? He caught balls above others on several occasions, and I saw him burst out and break tackles regularly but most importantly his distribution was immaculate, which is fantastic for a 20 year old. Scored a super point v Cork too.

That's the case made anyway, well worth in my view but I reckon it will be close. One of him and Gleeson will get one Id imagine.

Mountainlad

MfMan wrote: »

Close enough I'd say, but with Galway-bias would have Jason Flynn edging out Bubbles at the moment, he's really been significant in practically all Galway's c'ship games to date. Also think Andy Smith would be ahead of Fennelly, the latter has only had 2 (?) games so far whereas Smith has quietly been a mainstay all through. Hanbury for the FB line? Actually really quite good v Cork and Tipp.

Hanbury no, but the other two would be quite close. I've been a fan of Jason Flynn since I saw him last year, surprised with the stick he was getting in Galway and I didn't even realize then how young he was.

When you look at Smyths contribution, he seems to be the man launching the attacks from which pivotal scores have come from. Definitely in contention, but there was an element of expectation in my selection too. Fennelly was immense against Waterford I thought, and if he is fit to play against Galway then I'd imagine he'll have himself well in contention by the end of the game.

I'd be predicting a Kilkenny win hence the numbers, and acknowledging that while Galway deserve credit for making the final that in that scenario they wouldn't actually have won anything where the other three would.

citykat

Mountainlad wrote: »

He's had to play in between the lines to cut out the delivery and deny the goal threat, Waterford conceded 2 goals from play in 4 games. There's also limited space in a forward line so it's not like he was standing on his own without anybody near him.

How many balls did he hit? He caught balls above others on several occasions, and I saw him burst out and break tackles regularly but most importantly his distribution was immaculate, which is fantastic for a 20 year old. Scored a super point v Cork too.

That's the case made anyway, well worth in my view but I reckon it will be close. One of him and Gleeson will get one Id imagine.

Tbh there'd have to be a large asterisk beside any WD player in the backs given how many they used to drag back during games. Gleeson might get one MF. Think Morans semi performance rules him out. Maurice has the best chance of all the WD forwards.

keeponhurling

The team in the OP looks about right, I'd say 10 of that team are already certainties even before the final is played.

Here's how i see it
1. Colm Callanan (Galway) certainty

2. Paul Murphy (Kilkenny) certainty
3. Joey Holden (Kilkenny) / Coen
4. Cathal Barrett (Tipperary) / Connors

5. Daithi Burke (Galway) certainty
6. Tadhg de Burca (Waterford) / Gleeson
7. Cillian Buckley (Kilkenny) certainty

8. Michael Fennelly (Kilkenny) or David Burke / Andy smith
9. Conor Fogarty (Kilkenny) certainty

10. John O Dwyer (Tipperary) Aylward, Glynn or Canning
11. Richie Hogan (Kilkenny) certainty
12. TJ Reid (Kilkenny) certainty

13. Cathal Mannion (Galway) certainty
14. Seamus Callanan (Tipperary) certainty
15. Maurice Shanahan (Waterford) certainty


Waterford won the league, so that may mean something in a tight decision, and favour Gleeson, de Burca or Connors (I'm assuming Shanahan is a certainty regardless)

citykat

MfMan wrote: »

Close enough I'd say, but with Galway-bias would have Jason Flynn edging out Bubbles at the moment, he's really been significant in practically all Galway's c'ship games to date. Also think Andy Smith would be ahead of Fennelly, the latter has only had 2 (?) games so far whereas Smith has quietly been a mainstay all through. Hanbury for the FB line? Actually really quite good v Cork and Tipp.

Think the final will tell a lot as regards the split between KK and GY all stars. Unless he has stinker, think Joey is nailed on FB. Tan might get one CB if he has a good final. Think Mannion is the only certainty up front atm.

keeponhurling

citykat wrote: »

Tan might get one CB if he has a good final. .

keeponhurling

Sunday Game team of the year announced last night

No big surprises, could give a clue as to the All Stars

Callanan

Barrett
Holden
Murphy

Buckley
Burke
De Burca

Burke
Fennelly

Reid
Hogan
Glynn

Aylward
S.Callanan
Shanahan

citykat

keeponhurling wrote: »

Sunday Game team of the year announced last night

No big surprises, could give a clue as to the All Stars

Callanan

Barrett
Holden
Murphy

Buckley
Burke
De Burca

Burke
Fennelly

Reid
Hogan
Glynn

Aylward
S.Callanan
Shanahan

De Burca (WD) was listed at no. 6. Burke at No. 5. Padraig Walsh should have been given No. 5 and Daithi Burke No. 6. Surprised that Canning didn't make it.

donnem33

citykat wrote: »

De Burca (WD) was listed at no. 6. Burke at No. 5. Padraig Walsh should have been given No. 5 and Daithi Burke No. 6. Surprised that Canning didn't make it.

he would not have deserved it...if any Galway forwards were going to be named, it would be jason flynn or cathal mannion

dastardly00

citykat wrote: »

Surprised that Canning didn't make it.

Surprised because he has had a good championship or surprised because of his high profile?

I don't think he's been anywhere near what he is capable of, and hasn't been good enough to get an All-Star. A nomination yes, but not an All-Star.

Reid, Hogan and Callinan are absolutely nailed-on to get All-Stars. Very hard to see Aylward not getting one. Then I would rank Glynn and Flynn ahead of Canning. Maurice Shanahan has been excellent for Waterford.

Mountainlad

citykat wrote: »

De Burca (WD) was listed at no. 6. Burke at No. 5. Padraig Walsh should have been given No. 5 and Daithi Burke No. 6. Surprised that Canning didn't make it.

Tadhg Bourke was better than both this year. Never saw him make a mistake like Daithi Burkes for the goal in the Leinster final. Padraig Walsh has a marginal claim for an all star, not a standout candidate. I would like to see Fogarty get one.

Think Glynns inclusion was a joke. Mannion and Flynn well ahead of him.

citykat

donnem33 wrote: »

he would not have deserved it...if any Galway forwards were going to be named, it would be jason flynn or cathal mannion

The second half probably did for Canning yesterday. He made some uncharacteristic misses but still played well against Cork and Tipp though.
Mannion was in the running until yesterday for an All Star and/or young player of the year. After yesterday there's a good chance he'll get neither.
Don't think Flynn has done enough to merit an All Star.

citykat

Mountainlad wrote: »

Tadhg Bourke was better than both this year. Never saw him make a mistake like Daithi Burkes for the goal in the Leinster final. Padraig Walsh has a marginal claim for an all star, not a standout candidate. I would like to see Fogarty get one.

Think Glynns inclusion was a joke. Mannion and Flynn well ahead of him.

Easy play well when you don't have to mark anybody.

Mountainlad

citykat wrote: »

Easy play well when you don't have to mark anybody.

Cody said it himself, stop the ball not the man, in effect he was marking the entire full back line. I don't think you've watched Waterford play if you think he was just standing on his own the whole time, caught some brilliant balls and a great point v Cork as well. Been hurling brilliantly February to August, well merited all star. Not only did he stop the ball, his use of possession is amongst the very best in the Country.

I've seen plenty of players play sweeper, I haven't seen any of them play as well as him.

Mountainlad

citykat wrote: »

The second half probably did for Canning yesterday. He made some uncharacteristic misses but still played well against Cork and Tipp though.
Mannion was in the running until yesterday for an All Star and/or young player of the year. After yesterday there's a good chance he'll get neither.
Don't think Flynn has done enough to merit an All Star.

He hit 8 wides against Cork!!!!

adrian522

Any love for Eoin Larkin or Noel Connors in terms of an All Star? Thought they both had very good years.

I think picking the team the day after the All Ireland final clouds our judgement a little. I thought Paul Murphy was a bit flaky at times yesterday, particularly in the first half.

Mountainlad

adrian522 wrote: »

Any love for Eoin Larkin or Noel Connors in terms of an All Star? Thought they both had very good years.

I think picking the team the day after the All Ireland final clouds our judgement a little. I thought Paul Murphy was a bit flaky at times yesterday, particularly in the first half.

Larkin definitely should get a look in, outstanding yesterday and a disgrace he wasn't nominated for man of the match. Connors very good also, would be in contention I suppose but doubt he'll ultimately prevail.

citykat

Mountainlad wrote: »

Cody said it himself, stop the ball not the man, in effect he was marking the entire full back line. I don't think you've watched Waterford play if you think he was just standing on his own the whole time, caught some brilliant balls and a great point v Cork as well. Been hurling brilliantly February to August, well merited all star. Not only did he stop the ball, his use of possession is amongst the very best in the Country.

I've seen plenty of players play sweeper, I haven't seen any of them play as well as him.

Cody doesn't play the sweeper. Players, especially forwards, funnel back but they're still expected to mark their own man when necessary. Sweepers don't. They just mop up ball. Any inter county player will look good mopping up ball. I can only imagine how jealous his team mates were of him not having to pick up anyone.

Mountainlad

citykat wrote: »

Cody doesn't play the sweeper. Players, especially forwards, funnel back but they're still expected to mark their own man when necessary. Sweepers don't. They just mop up ball. Any inter county player will look good mopping up ball. I can only imagine how jealous his team mates were of him not having to pick up anyone.

I'd say you might want to ask his team mates what they think of him and whether he should be an all star. Don't think you'll get the answer you're expecting. He essentially had to ensure the goal threat is limited and did that brilliantly.

MfMan

citykat wrote: »

The second half probably did for Canning yesterday. He made some uncharacteristic misses but still played well against Cork and Tipp though.
Mannion was in the running until yesterday for an All Star and/or young player of the year. After yesterday there's a good chance he'll get neither.
Don't think Flynn has done enough to merit an All Star.

Played well v Dublin also in the replay and essentially beat Laois on his own. Top scorer from play in this year's c'ship? If any other player had his year, they'd be a shoo-in, but he seems to be a victim of his standards I suppose.

Flynn and Mannion should way ahead of Glynn in any award stakes; Flynn for YHOTY? Why no mention for Coen? Regardless of yesterday's misdemeanor, he's had a very good year and was outstanding v Tipp.

Mountainlad

MfMan wrote: »

Played well v Dublin also in the replay and essentially beat Laois on his own. Top scorer from play in this year's c'ship? If any other player had his year, they'd be a shoo-in, but he seems to be a victim of his standards I suppose.

Flynn and Mannion should way ahead of Glynn in any award stakes; Flynn for YHOTY? Why no mention for Coen? Regardless of yesterday's misdemeanor, he's had a very good year and was outstanding v Tipp.

Lot of Galway players being mentioned. The reality is they won nothing and got beaten handy by Kilkenny twice. They'll still get the second most but how many of them can you give all stars like?

citykat

MfMan wrote: »

Played well v Dublin also in the replay and essentially beat Laois on his own. Top scorer from play in this year's c'ship? If any other player had his year, they'd be a shoo-in, but he seems to be a victim of his standards I suppose.

True

MfMan wrote: »

Flynn and Mannion should way ahead of Glynn in any award stakes; Flynn for YHOTY? Why no mention for Coen? Regardless of yesterday's misdemeanor, he's had a very good year and was outstanding v Tipp.

Regarding YHOTY, what about Whelan? He was one of the few Galway forwards who stood up in the second half yesterday. Flynn scored a brilliant pt and some monster frees but his contribution from play was poor.

Whatever about Coen, I think Hanbury might be in with a shout. Bar the goal he was oustanding yesterday.

donnem33

Mountainlad wrote: »

Lot of Galway players being mentioned. The reality is they won nothing and got beaten handy by Kilkenny twice. They'll still get the second most but how many of them can you give all stars like?

Having played 7 championship matches this summer in additional to being all ireland finalists will ensure they will be well represented!! KK obviously will top the total number of awards

MfMan

Mountainlad wrote: »

Lot of Galway players being mentioned. The reality is they won nothing and got beaten handy by Kilkenny twice. They'll still get the second most but how many of them can you give all stars like?

In fairness Callinan has been the top keeper in this year's c'ship and Daithi Burke has been excellent, as has David Burke in midfield. (Padraig Mannion bit unlucky, had a great season Tipp match apart). Given that Galway have been prolific scorers this year it would be strange in the least for one forward not to get an award, would give it to Canning myself.

Mountainlad

donnem33 wrote: »

Having played 7 championship matches this summer in additional to being all ireland finalists will ensure they will be well represented!! KK obviously will top the total number of awards

Oh no doubt, but like I'm not sure of the merit of it even if it is reality. All about exposure I suppose. But the other two teams did win a Munster and League title so more than entitled to stake a claim.

Kilkenny so far ahead of everyone that they are looking at minimum 7. Galway could get 4, but I've seen about 10 players mentioned which is a bit ridiculous.

@MFman, agree on Callanan. Daithi Burke is worth one. David Burke was good but think Conor Fogarty deserves one and Fennelly is a cert.

They deserve at least one forward alright, would not agree on Canning. Mannion would be my choice even if he was poor yesterday, Flynn the next choice (played well in every game).

citykat

Mountainlad wrote: »

Oh no doubt, but like I'm not sure of the merit of it even if it is reality. All about exposure I suppose. But the other two teams did win a Munster and League title so more than entitled to stake a claim.

Kilkenny so far ahead of everyone that they are looking at minimum 7. Galway could get 4, but I've seen about 10 players mentioned which is a bit ridiculous.

Kilkenny won League, Leinster and All Ireland last year but received less than Tipp who they beat in two finals. Titles mean nothing.

Andre 3000

Canning has to get one. The fact Seamie Callinan has been probably the best all round out and out forward dents his chances of getting in at full forward but people seem to forget that even with that bad day against Cork, he still racked up staggering scores from play all year. I agree 100% with the comment that he's a victim of his own standards, one of the truest comments I have seen on here. But if Ger Aylward, Maurice Shanahan and Johnny bloody Glynn are being picked, for what over Joe?

Would love to see one of the two Waterford lads to get Young Hurler. De Burcá and Gleeson are phenomenal players, but it has to Mannion. Fair enough he had a shocker yesterday, but his displays all year have been superb. One of the best all round forwards this year, regardless of age

Faugheen

Colm Callanan

Paul Murphy
Joey Holden
Noel Connors

Daithi Burke
Tadgh De Burca
Cillian Buckley

Michael Fennelly
Conor Fogarty

Jonathan Glynn
Richie Hogan
TJ Reid

Joe Canning
Seamus Callinan
Maurice Shanahan

Goalkeeper's an easy one. Callanan has a had a good year and has looked good on the eye while doing so.

Full back was a toss up in one of the corners. I think Connors contributed more to Waterford than Barrett to be honest. Not much in them though.

Half backs pick themselves. Don't agree with Padraig Walsh getting one. He's been good, but not outstanding. Consistant is the key phrase here regarding Walsh I think.

Midfield was tough. Obviously Fennelly has to get one and physically had to flip a coin between Fogarty and David Burke

Half forwards was relatively straight forward. Struggling to think of a half-forward more worthy of an inclusion than Glynn mind.

Full forwards was a simple one. All of these men were the stars for their respective teams. Just because Joe Canning didn't line out as a corner forward doesn't mean he doesn't deserve an All-Star. I'm sorry, but for all the good Ger Aylward has done, he hasn't been better than Canning this season. I'm a Kilkenny man as well, so no Galway bias here. None of the Kilkenny full-forwards had the same impact as the three individuals.

Before people get on to me regarding '...but who won the All-Ireland?' It doesn't matter diddly squat when judging All-Stars. These are judged on the best players of the season and none of the Kilkenny full-forwards were better than any of the three in that full-forward line I've named.

galwaylad14

Callanan
Murphy
Holden
Barrett
Burke
De Burca
Buckley
Burke
Fennely
Canning
Hogan
Reid
Mannian
Callanan
Shanahan.

Think that's what I'd go with. Weakest line is the full backline I think, not many truly outstanding candidates back there. For example everyone including myself picked Holden full back and I don't think he was that outstanding to be honest, thought joe had him in trouble both games if enough proper ball was given in to him. But Holden was solid generally in fairness in a year there was a dearth of quality full back play.

I think canning and mannion have to be in there in the forwards and can't believe neither made the Sunday game team. They were by far the 2 highest scoring players from play in the championship (though I know we had by far the most games).

Can't work out how Glynn made the Sunday game team. He was brilliant against Cork but very average in every other game. Aylward and Larkin were very unlucky to miss out on the team I picked there.

T0001

I think

Colm Callanan

Paul Murphy
Joey Holden
A

Daithi Burke
Tadgh De Burca
Cillian Buckley

Michael Fennelly
B

Jonathan Glynn
Richie Hogan
TJ Reid

C
Seamus Callinan
Maurice Shanahan

I think 12 are more or less straight forward enough but 3 are in the melting pot.

A - Cathal Barrett and Noel Connors will more than likely get this, hard to know which, but a shout out to Johnny Coen here too.
B - Moran and David Burke are my front runners here. Fogarty had a good year but I think the formers were just more influential. Burke might swing it after a great display in the AI Final
C - Shoot-Out between Canning and Mannion for this one. Might give it to Joe if Mannion get YPOTY.

YPOTY - Cathal Mannion my pick here. Holden and Austin Gleeson not far off him but Mannion had a great year.
POTY - TJ Reid is the man for me here. Hard to know who else will be nominated, maybe Seamus Callanan and Hogan

JimboJones99

T0001 wrote: »

YPOTY - Cathal Mannion my pick here. Holden and Austin Gleeson not far off him but Mannion had a great year.
POTY - TJ Reid is the man for me here. Hard to know who else will be nominated, maybe Seamus Callanan and Hogan

Joey Holden is about 26 so I would assume that would rule him out for YPOTY. What is the criteria by the way?

I would think Mannion has a good chance of getting it but was very poor in both games against KK.

Mountainlad

JimboJones99 wrote: »

Joey Holden is about 26 so I would assume that would rule him out for YPOTY. What is the criteria by the way?

I would think Mannion has a good chance of getting it but was very poor in both games against KK.

You must be under 21 and I think players can no longer win it if they have already won it.

glued

Barrett and Connors is a close one but Barrett was rock solid again on year and I'd have him ahead.

Not sure why people are surprised Canning didn't get one. He wasn't near the best 6 forwards in the country.

Colm Callanan is a certainty for keeper. Gleeson was poor against Galway and some of his puck outs were atrocious in that game too.

Martin567

glued wrote: »

Colm Callanan is a certainty for keeper. Gleeson was poor against Galway and some of his puck outs were atrocious in that game too.

Is Eoin Murphy not even worthy of mention? It does seem very difficult for a Kilkenny goalkeeper to win an All Star.

Mountainlad

Martin567 wrote: »

Is Eoin Murphy not even worthy of mention? It does seem very difficult for a Kilkenny goalkeeper to win an All Star.

He made one bad blunder there on Sunday. I like him but I don't really remember him being outstanding. In fairness, Callanan but in the best display all year in the semi final as well as making a great save from a pen v Dublin.

To be honest, I don't think any of the three keepers before Murphy were great to be honest. Lucky they had such a quality defense in front of them.

Martin567

Mountainlad wrote: »

He made one bad blunder there on Sunday. I like him but I don't really remember him being outstanding. In fairness, Callanan but in the best display all year in the semi final as well as making a great save from a pen v Dublin.

To be honest, I don't think any of the three keepers before Murphy were great to be honest. Lucky they had such a quality defense in front of them.

I think Eoin Murphy is as good as any keeper around at the moment. I also thought James McGarry was outstanding and never got the credit he deserved.

Mountainlad

Martin567 wrote: »

I think Eoin Murphy is as good as any keeper around at the moment. I also thought James McGarry was outstanding and never got the credit he deserved.

I can't agree on McGarry, but Eoin Murphy is talented no doubt.

dastardly00

Martin567 wrote: »

I think Eoin Murphy is as good as any keeper around at the moment. I also thought James McGarry was outstanding and never got the credit he deserved.

James McGarry was a very good keeper but two things hindered his chances of getting an All-Star in my opinion: (i) the standard of goalkeepers was extremely good, Cummins, Davy Fitz, Damien Fitzhenry, Donal Og Cusack; and (ii) the KK backs were do good that McGarry didn't have that many saves to make. So that meant he had less opportunities to make spectacular saves like Cummins did especially.

dastardly00

Martin567 wrote: »

Is Eoin Murphy not even worthy of mention? It does seem very difficult for a Kilkenny goalkeeper to win an All Star.

Three goalkeepers get nominated don't they? I think Murphy should be rewarded with a nomination anyway, along with Gleeson and Callinan. Although Stephen O'Keefe mightn't be too far away either.

Andre 3000

glued wrote: »

Barrett and Connors is a close one but Barrett was rock solid again on year and I'd have him ahead.

Not sure why people are surprised Canning didn't get one. He wasn't near the best 6 forwards in the country.

Colm Callanan is a certainty for keeper. Gleeson was poor against Galway and some of his puck outs were atrocious in that game too.

What 6 were better and based on what/where were they better?

dastardly00

The nominations for the GAA GPA All-Stars, along with Hurler of the Year and Young Hurler of the Year, have been announced.

This year the system of selection has changed. Outfield players have been nominated in broader categories of defence, centrefield and attack rather than by their line on the field. This was decided on in order to reflect the growing fluidity of positional play with both football and hurling.

2015 GAA GPA Hurling All-Stars nominations:

Goalkeepers: Colm Callanan (Galway), Eoin Murphy (Kilkenny), Darren Gleeson (Tipperary).

Defenders: Daithí Burke (Galway), Cillian Buckley (Kilkenny), Joey Holden (Kilkenny), Paul Murphy (Kilkenny), Pádraic Walsh (Kilkenny), Johnny Coen (Galway), Iarla Tannion (Galway), Pádraig Mannion (Galway), Kieran Joyce (Kilkenny), Pádraic Maher (Tipperary), Cathal Barrett (Tipperary), James Barry (Tipperary), Noel Connors (Waterford), Tadhg de Búrca (Waterford), Shane Fives (Waterford), Austin Gleeson (Waterford), Barry Coughlan (Waterford), Philip Mahony (Waterford).

Centrefielders: Andrew Smith (Galway), David Burke (Galway), Michael Fennelly (Kilkenny), Conor Fogarty (Kilkenny), Kevin Moran (Waterford), Jamie Barron (Waterford).

Forwards: Tony Kelly (Clare), Séamus Harnedy (Cork), Mark Schutte (Dublin), Cathal Mannion (Galway), Jason Flynn (Galway), Jonathan Glynn (Galway), Joe Canning (Galway), Conor Whelan (Galway), Ger Aylward (Kilkenny), TJ Reid (Kilkenny), Eoin Larkin (Kilkenny), Richie Hogan (Kilkenny), Brendan Maher (Tipperary), John O’Dwyer (Tipperary), Séamus Callanan (Tipperary), Colin Dunford (Waterford), Maurice Shanahan (Waterford), Michael Walsh (Waterford).


Player of the Year: TJ Reid (Kilkenny), Richie Hogan (Kilkenny), Séamus Callanan (Tipperary).

Young Player of the Year: Jason Flynn (Galway), Cathal Mannion (Galway), Tadhg de Búrca (Waterford).

dastardly00

The hurling All-Stars will be announced (Thursday) morning.