Arsenal v Liverpool mnf 8pm sky sports 1

niallo27

Quazzie wrote: »

How is it irrelevant?. We've kept Liverpool from scoring, whereas Liverpool needed the Linesman do that. Liverpool haven't scored. Arsenal have. Be hypothetical all you want but that's the facts.

I think you will find Arsenal haven't scored unless you want to change the rules.

cson

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Surprised at how bad Arsenal have been. Been caught out in central midfield far too often. Ozil does not look like he wants to be on the pitch.

Koscielny and Mertesacker are a huge part of how we play if you watch us a lot. A lot of our goals start with a Mertesacker pass or a Koscielny dribble. Take both out and you've a raw youngster paired with a relatively new centre half whose first language isn't English. I'd doubt AW very much planned for them to play together in a game of this magnitude this early.

As I've said the unsettling effect has translated to the whole team. We're not controlling the ball in our own final third thus Sanchez and Ozil are coming deep for it and being made look ineffectual.

The hope is we can only improve. Important 15 mins for the team and manager to figure out a way to get their **** together and get in the game. Would probably be bringing on Arteta tbh. No idea for who though. You'd have to keep Coquelin on which means either Ozil or Cazorla.

marklazarcovic

chambers is gonna score the winner isnt he

Gringo180

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Surprised at how bad Arsenal have been. Been caught out in central midfield far too often. Ozil does not look like he wants to be on the pitch.

There has been much worse players than Ozil in that Arsenal team tonight. I find it amazing how everybody picks out Ozil as the worst :pac:

Osmosis Jones

Gringo180 wrote: »

There has been much worse players than Ozil in that Arsenal team tonight. I find it amazing how everybody picks out Ozil as the worst :pac:

Suppose it's because of the expectation around him.

SlickRic

That_Guy wrote: »

Liverpool have been brilliant. A lot more convincing than the first couple of games anyway. Offside goal aside, Liverpool should be out of sight.

Lucas.

It allows Milner to do what he's best at.

Quazzie

5starpool wrote: »

There were no goals scored in the first half.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

I think you might have typical "Liverpool vision" where they conveniently miss parts of the game where they were poor, but Arsenal actually had the ball in the back of the net.

niallo27 wrote: »

I think you will find Arsenal haven't scored unless you want to change the rules.

It's easy to stay in contention when you have linesmen to make bad decision to make ye look good two weeks in a row.

cson

Gringo180 wrote: »

There has been much worse players than Ozil in that Arsenal team tonight. I find it amazing how everybody picks out Ozil as the worst :pac:

Fits the narrative.

8-10

That Cech save from Benteke is one of the best I've ever seen, certainly in a game I've seen live. Absolutely World Class and I can't even be that pissed off about it. .

It was like when he made that save from Andy Carroll in the FA Cup. Looked so impossible that you just have to tip your hat

Yakult

Quazzie wrote: »

How is it irrelevant?. We've kept Liverpool from scoring, whereas Liverpool needed the Linesman do that. Liverpool haven't scored. Arsenal have. Be hypothetical all you want but that's the facts.

I'll look at the stats rather than facts. Ye haven't looked threatening since that moment.

niallo27

Gringo180 wrote: »

There has been much worse players than Ozil in that Arsenal team tonight. I find it amazing how everybody picks out Ozil as the worst :pac:

When you pay 50-60 million for a player expectations are higher.

5starpool

Quazzie wrote: »

I think you might have typical "Liverpool vision" where they conveniently miss parts of the game where they were poor, but Arsenal actually had the ball in the back of the net.

Pot/kettle.

1-3 would have been a fair reflection of play in the first half.

Second half could be very different though obviously.

Tomagotchye

Ozil is trying to pick out through balls into the box but Giroud is always too deep to latch onto them.

Arsenal just need to start booting the ball. Half their problems start when passing from the back

~Rebel~

Gomez doing well defensively, can see his weaknesses on the attack though, has had opportunities to play through balls but has opted for the safety pass instead. Can't blame him to be honest, but it's been his biggest/only failing so far

EuropeanSon

Gomez looked very poor a few times there. Like he didn't know what to do with the ball on the attack.

efb

niallo27 wrote: »

I think you will find Arsenal haven't scored unless you want to change the rules.

Or in liverpools case, bend them

That_Guy

Gomez looks like he's morphing into Don King.

MightyMandarin

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Gomez doing well defensively, can see his weaknesses on the attack though, has had opportunities to play through balls but has opted for the safety pass instead. Can't blame him to be honest, but it's been his biggest/only failing so far

To be honest I'd rather his weakness be going forward. We've had problems with full backs who were the opposite, such as Johnson and Moreno.

Knex*

EuropeanSon wrote: »

Gomez looked very poor a few times there. Like he didn't know what to do with the ball on the attack.

He's not great offensively. A right footed center back, playing left back, and only 18 though.

He's been pretty damn impressive so far.

Osmosis Jones

efb wrote: »

Or in liverpools case, bend them

Not Liverpool's fault the linesman made a mistake

kingshankly

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Gomez doing well defensively, can see his weaknesses on the attack though, has had opportunities to play through balls but has opted for the safety pass instead. Can't blame him to be honest, but it's been his biggest/only failing so far

He is a centre half in fairness

That_Guy

efb wrote: »

Or in liverpools case, bend them

What exactly have Liverpool done to "bend the rules"? It's the fault of the linesman and nobody else.

MightyMandarin

efb wrote: »

Or in liverpools case, bend them

It's ok, I think Howard Webb might come out of retirement, and we'll see the return of Fergie Time

EuropeanSon

Knex. wrote: »

He's not great offensively. A right footed center back, playing left back, and only 18 though.

He's been pretty damn impressive so far.

Ah OK, didn't realise he wasn't a full back.

efb

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Not Liverpool's fault the linesman made a mistake

Two in two games...

Harry Palmr

efb wrote: »

Or in liverpools case, bend them

Dry your eyes

~Rebel~

kingshankly wrote: »

He is a centre half in fairness

Yup, as I said, can't blame him. It's just about the only weakness in his game in that position though.

Paully D

Gringo180 wrote: »

There has been much worse players than Ozil in that Arsenal team tonight. I find it amazing how everybody picks out Ozil as the worst :pac:

He's such a scapegoat, it's absolutely ridiculous at this stage.

corwill

EuropeanSon wrote: »

Gomez looked very poor a few times there. Like he didn't know what to do with the ball on the attack.

He's unable or unwilling to chance a pass or cross with his left, serious limitation at LB.

Osmosis Jones

efb wrote: »

Two in two games...

My point remains. Are you suggesting it is Liverpool's fault?

brevity

Lee Dixon having a go at the "good touch for a big man" cliche.

SantryRed

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Gomez doing well defensively, can see his weaknesses on the attack though, has had opportunities to play through balls but has opted for the safety pass instead. Can't blame him to be honest, but it's been his biggest/only failing so far

In all fairness to him, the reason he hasn't played the through balls is due to most of them being on his left foot, which evidently isn't his strongest.

That_Guy

efb wrote: »

Two in two games...

Yes, Liverpool have bribed the officials and have bribed Arsenal to play appallingly.

efb

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

My point remains. Are you suggesting it is Liverpool's fault?

I'm suggesting Liverpool get more than the uib of the green

~Rebel~

efb wrote: »

Two in two games...

What, do you really think there's a conspiracy or something?

efb wrote: »

I'm suggesting Liverpool get more than the rib of the green

Could maybe potentially agree if both were at Anfield - but away to Arsenal? Nah, not having that. Linos make mistakes.

livinginkorea

Great work from Gomez there...super player

kingshankly

corwill wrote: »

He's unable or unwilling to chance a pass or cross with his left, serious limitation at LB.

Maldini never used his left he didn't do too bad

Harry Palmr

efb wrote: »

I'm suggesting Liverpool get more than the uib of the green

Arsene Wenger is that you?

Knex*

Borini gave all the officials a go off his sister.

corwill

efb wrote: »

I'm suggesting Liverpool get more than the uib of the green

Paully D

You've got to love Alexis. Gets taken down (wasn't a foul) but he doesn't stay on the ground protesting, he's straight back on his feet running 50 yards down the field to try and win the ball back.

billymitchell

Its great to have 2 full backs that can defend. Been a while since Liverpool have had that

GreNoLi

brevity wrote: »

Lee Dixon having a go at the "good touch for a big man" cliche.

Better commentator than he is pundit.

That_Guy

Much more promising from Arsenal. Game very open though with Liverpool on the counter.

efb

corwill wrote: »

Give me my hat back!

Utopia Parkway

corwill wrote: »

He's unable or unwilling to chance a pass or cross with his left, serious limitation at LB.

He's a right footed centre-half filling in at LB. I don't think you can expect him to bomb down the wing pinging in crosses. For now I'm happy enough with him being solid there.

efb

I'm Bored now

brevity

GreNoLi wrote: »

Better commentator than he is pundit.

Ya, really enjoying listening to him actaully.

kingshankly

Benteke is excellent Christ I wasn't a fan but am warning to him

Buford T. Justice XIX

Arsenal drawing Clyne infield and using that space to attack.