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Winter Weather 2015/16 : See Mod Note Post #1

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    #482
    esposito
    Registered Users Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭esposito


    As I'm a big snow and cold lover, I'm thinking of visiting Scandinavia in Jan or Feb. Question is, which country would you recommend to visit for best chances of snow? I was thinking Sweden but Aer Lingus no longer fly to Stockholm :(

    Any advice would be appreciated :)


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    #483
    yorlum11
    Registered Users Posts: 342 ✭✭yorlum11


    esposito wrote:
    As I'm a big snow and cold lover, I'm thinking of visiting Scandinavia in Jan or Feb. Question is, which country would you recommend to visit for best chances of snow? I was thinking Sweden but Aer Lingus no longer fly to Stockholm


    I have been to Oslo, stayed above the city in Holmenkollen. We had a blast. Skiing, cross country skiing, tobogganning to name a few activities. Loads of snow especially outside Oslo. Winter Wonderland. Ryanair fly there.


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    #484
    snowstreams
    Registered Users Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭snowstreams


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    That first fall of snow on the 27th was only the beginning of the story though. Snow continued to fall from frequent showers after you left for Spain. Much of the country was covered by the 30th but the highest depths remained over Connacht and parts of Ulster....

    Thats a great picture, I can see that my house in Athenry was on the edge of the deeper snow, the colour down the road towards clarinbridge/gort etc isn't as deep a white.


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    #485
    WheatenBriar
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    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    That first fall of snow on the 27th was only the beginning of the story though. Snow continued to fall from frequent showers after you left for Spain. Much of the country was covered by the 30th but the highest depths remained over Connacht and parts of Ulster.

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    I recall that there was much traffic issues on N17 between Tuam & Galway City as a result.

    We had a lot of snow here too in Dec 2010 but this spell lacked a certain 'panache' that came with the wintry spell in Dec 2000, and although this 2000 spell only lasted 3 or 4 days, it was almost as equally intense in terms of low minina. I read somewhere a low of -16.0c was estimated in the Ballinrobe of Co. Mayo during this spell.
    There was zero snow in Arklow during that 2000 period iirc
    Was there a weather front pushing up from the south at the end of that spell? Iirc a few flakes from it here at 4 am returning from the night out followed by about 18hrs heavy rain which fell intermittently as wet snow a few miles nort of here and dumped a lot above 800ft locally before the mild air sweeping in
    It would have been in double figures here by evening, whereas friends who spent the period up in Donegal had to abandon their car around the same time :D


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    #486
    Oneiric 3
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    WheatenBriar wrote: »
    There was zero snow in Arklow during that 2000 period iirc
    Was there a weather front pushing up from the south at the end of that spell? Iirc a few flakes from it here at 4 am returning from the night out followed by about 18hrs heavy rain which fell intermittently as wet snow a few miles nort of here and dumped a lot above 800ft locally before the mild air sweeping in
    It would have been in double figures here by evening, whereas friends who spent the period up in Donegal had to abandon their car around the same time :D

    Yep, a front moved in later on the 31st of that month (map if for Dec 31 0z, it had passed through 24hrs later) more from the SW but no doubt it would have given some leading edge snow as it hit the colder air (I can't recall tbh)

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    New Moon



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    #487
    sryanbruen
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    As I said in the Autumn chat, from mid-month it is TRULY expected to be a lot less mild - still have to wait for a few days to consider for a cold spell but it will definitely be less mild!

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    #488
    Oneiric 3
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    sryanbruen wrote: »
    As I said in the Autumn chat, from mid-month it is TRULY expected to be a lot less mild - still have to wait for a few days to consider for a cold spell but it will definitely be less mild!

    Isn't that usually what happens as November progresses anyway? :p

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    #489
    sryanbruen
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    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    Isn't that usually what happens as November progresses anyway? :p

    Well yeah but in 2011 - the last very warm November I recall had very little drop in temperature.

    The lowest max. I recorded that month was 10.1c on the 22nd. I really hope it is much lower than that for this month, come on weather bring the Winter all it has got waiting for us for 5 years!

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    #490
    WheatenBriar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,170 ✭✭✭WheatenBriar


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    Yep, a front moved in later on the 31st of that month (map if for Dec 31 0z, it had passed through 24hrs later) more from the SW but no doubt it would have given some leading edge snow as it hit the colder air (I can't recall tbh)

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    Thats it exactly!
    Twas fundoran the car got stuck in and it was the evening of jan 1st by then
    Twas 4am new years morning we had the few flakes then all the rain


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    #491
    FWVT
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    About sub-seasonal forecasting.

    http://www.ecmwf.int/en/about/media-centre/news/2015/pushing-boundaries-predictability


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    #492
    esposito
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    yorlum11 wrote: »
    I have been to Oslo, stayed above the city in Holmenkollen. We had a blast. Skiing, cross country skiing, tobogganning to name a few activities. Loads of snow especially outside Oslo. Winter Wonderland. Ryanair fly there.

    Thanks for that info. Typical Ryanair flying into an airport 60 km away from Oslo though.


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    #493
    yorlum11
    Registered Users Posts: 342 ✭✭yorlum11


    esposito wrote:
    Thanks for that info. Typical Ryanair flying into an airport 60 km away from Oslo though.


    Its not so bad. Hour journey by bus. Small price to pay for some sneachta :).


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    #494
    esposito
    Registered Users Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭esposito


    yorlum11 wrote: »
    Its not so bad. Hour journey by bus. Small price to pay for some sneachta :).[/QUOTE

    Fair point ;)


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    #495
    Schadenfreudia
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    esposito wrote: »
    Thanks for that info. Typical Ryanair flying into an airport 60 km away from Oslo though.

    Well, you can always pay more and fly direct :rolleyes:


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    #496
    Chris_5339762
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    ...or pay about the same and fly direct (a lot of the time) because the bus fare into Oslo will gouge you any savings.


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    #497
    Clonmel1000
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    Snowbiee21 wrote: »
    Papers saying snow "just around corner" can someone back me up, what are the models saying in the next few weeks

    What's the latest on this?


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    #498
    Snowbiee21
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    Clonmel1000 wrote: »
    What's the latest on this?

    Who knows


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    #499
    konman
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    Latest guidance has backed off on this happening, as far as I can see anyway. It was only suggesting snow on high ground in my inexperienced opinion. I wouldn't pay any heed to the papers at all though.


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    #500
    yorlum11
    Registered Users Posts: 342 ✭✭yorlum11


    Matt Hugo on Twitter.
    Strat vortex 'behaving' as would be expected given ENSO & QBO phase. +NAO pattern for Dec looking increasingly likely. #notmuchchanceofcold


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    #501
    maquiladora
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    yorlum11 wrote: »
    Matt Hugo on Twitter.
    Strat vortex 'behaving' as would be expected given ENSO & QBO phase. +NAO pattern for Dec looking increasingly likely. #notmuchchanceofcold

    Eh. We've had significant cold/snowy periods during years of moderate and strong El Nino's. And we've had mild/stormy winters when all the teleconnections pointed to a cold winter. Anything is possible really.


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    #502
    HighLine
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    yorlum11 wrote: »
    Matt Hugo on Twitter.
    Strat vortex 'behaving' as would be expected given ENSO & QBO phase. +NAO pattern for Dec looking increasingly likely. #notmuchchanceofcold

    No one knows what the weather will be like in December just as none of these "forecasters" predicted the unusually mild start to November we have had.


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    #503
    gerrybhoy
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    HighLine wrote: »
    No one knows what the weather will be like in December just as none of these "forecasters" predicted the unusually mild start to November we have had.
    Bingo...stop talking sense :D


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    #504
    Alun
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    esposito wrote: »
    Thanks for that info. Typical Ryanair flying into an airport 60 km away from Oslo though.
    The current "real" Oslo airport, Gardermoen, is about 50km away too, so not much of a difference there. The old airport at Fornebu was only 10km away but has long since closed and been redeveloped as an industrial estate.


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    #505
    Loughc
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    HighLine wrote: »
    No one knows what the weather will be like in December just as none of these "forecasters" predicted the unusually mild start to November we have had.

    I predicted a mild, wet, windy winter starting in November a few pages back, can I be made King Predictor now.... or whatever title that Postman from Donegal had.


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    #506
    HighLine
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    Loughc wrote: »
    I predicted a mild, wet, windy winter starting in November a few pages back, can I be made King Predictor now.... or whatever title that Postman from Donegal had.

    I'm sure the DailyMail will be very interested in contacting you :D


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    #507
    Loughc
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    HighLine wrote: »
    I'm sure the DailyMail will be very interested in contacting you :D

    Mild, wet winter doesn't shift papers and certainly isn't sensationalist enough for them. haha.


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    #508
    weatherfiend
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    Has MT made his winter prediction yet? Have I missed it??


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    #509
    Lumi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭Lumi


    weatherfiend wrote: »
    Has MT made his winter prediction yet? Have I missed it??

    Yep he has - it's further back here in the general winter thread.
    Here's a link to it


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    #510
    weatherfiend
    Registered Users Posts: 541 ✭✭✭weatherfiend


    Lumi wrote: »
    Yep he has - it's further back here in the general winter thread.
    Here's a link to it

    Thanks.....how on earth I missed it :o


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    #511
    sryanbruen
    Registered Users Posts: 13,595 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Some people say that there does be patterns like this:

    *A cold Summer means a mild Winter
    *A warm Summer means a cold Winter

    How often has this occurred, so they say?

    *Pattern #1 - 2011, 2007 (it was slightly below for me), 2002, 2001.
    *Pattern #2 - 2014, 2010, 2009, 2008, 2000, 1995, 1990, 1989.

    Does this mean we could be in for a mild Winter 'cause we had a cold Summer? That is very high unlikely in my opinion!

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