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US OPEN August 31 - September 13 2015 (SEE MOD NOTE POST #8)

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  • #352
    walshb
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    lostcat wrote: »
    I think Djokovic might hit that nail on the head, if he wins a French. He has after all beaten Nadal many times on clay....

    Indeed. I can only recall one 5 setter between Federer and Nole on clay, the 2011 FO semi. Federer was on fire that day. But, Nole has probably gotten even better on clay since then.

    2012 SEMI at RG: Nole in 3!


  • #353
    mickmackey1
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    lostcat wrote: »
    I think Djokovic might hit that nail on the head, if he wins a French. He has after all beaten Nadal many times on clay....

    But he's played Federer 8 times on clay and lost 4 of them...


  • #354
    walshb
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    Although they are 21-21, it's clear that Nole is the bigger winner on the bigger occasion. 8-6 in GS matches and 3-0 in matches lasting 5 sets. 8-7 in 5 set matches. All finals he leads 10-6. There is no area "of significance" where Federer leads their head to head.


  • #355
    cowboyBuilder
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    walshb wrote: »
    Although they are 21-21, it's clear that Nole is the bigger winner on the bigger occasion. 8-6 in GS matches and 3-0 in matches lasting 5 sets. 8-7 in 5 set matches. All finals he leads 10-6. There is no area "of significance" where Federer leads their head to head.

    3-0 in matches lasting 5 hours ?


  • #356
    Sweetpotato Burrito
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    walshb wrote: »
    Indeed. I can only recall one 5 setter between Federer and Nole on clay, the 2011 FO semi. Federer was on fire that day. But, Nole has probably gotten even better on clay since then.

    2012 SEMI at RG: Nole in 3!

    The 2011 semi was Federer in 4 sets. That was peak Djokovic and Federer was too good that day. Djokovic is not as good on clay in 2015 as he was in 2015, in fact he's not as good on any surface compared to 2011. He was a beast that year. His focus was razor sharp. Players usually peak at about 24 in tennis. It was true for Federer (2006), Djokovic(2011) and Nadal (2010).


  • #357
    walshb
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    Sweetpotato Burrito wrote: »
    The 2011 semi was Federer in 4 sets. That was peak Djokovic and Federer was too good that day. Djokovic is not as good on clay in 2015 as he was in 2015, in fact he's not as good on any surface compared to 2011. He was a beast that year. His focus was razor sharp. Players usually peak at about 24 in tennis. It was true for Federer (2006), Djokovic(2011) and Nadal (2010).

    I meant best of 5 sets. Yes, Fed in 4 that day. 2011 was Nole's stand out year, but 2015 is every bit as good. He is playing every bit as good. Not sure if it's better than 2011, but it's certainly comparable, and I don't believe it's clear either way-year.


  • #358
    walshb
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    cowboyBuilder wrote: »
    3-0 in matches lasting 5 hours ?

    I'm not with you.....3/0 in matches that went 5 sets. Not sure they ever played a 5 hour match.


  • #359
    Sweetpotato Burrito
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    walshb wrote: »
    I meant best of 5 sets. Yes, Fed in 4 that day. 2011 was Nole's stand out year, but 2015 is every bit as good. He is playing every bit as good. Not sure if it's better than 2011, but it's certainly comparable, and I don't believe it's clear either way-year.

    2015 would be his second best year but when I look at him in 2011 I think he was just that bit sharper and more relentless, he was a machine. In 2011 the competition was better than it is now. Nadal was close to his peak in 2011, now his toughest competition is a 34 year old faded Federer.


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