Newcastle v Arsenal

cson

Should be yellow for Monreal if fair is fair.

JustTheOne

cson wrote: »

Should be yellow for Monreal if fair is fair.

Yellow for Newcastle was 2 fouls. Monreal has one.

omega man

Way too many attacking arsenal players underperforming this season.

omega man

69th minute. Classic Wenger.

Panthro

Owen Goal scores again for Arsenal.
He's having some season.

GreNoLi

Walcott's best position is on the bench.

FLOOPER

Actually that was really poor. Probably the best position for attack and screwed it.

Ajfunky

The lesser spotted arsenal long shot...

Alfred Borden

Giroud and Walcott as CF options would hardly inspire you

monkey9

bur wrote: »

Just, no.

Well just yeah if the Arsenal player's leg is a few inches further forward. It's not a football winning tackle anyway.

It doesn't matter anyway. The Arsenal player is fine, the Newcastle player deservedly saw red so it's all good.

brianregan09

I hate these kind of scorelines going into the last ten , A second goal is so badly needed with newcastle showing signs of life now

Ajfunky

Although it hasnt been the biggest test have really liked kosc and gabriel. Very quick snappy defending. Gabriel is terrific in the air.

GreNoLi

Poor match.

Ajfunky

Ajfunky wrote: »

Although it hasnt been the biggest test have really liked kosc and gabriel. Very quick snappy defending. Gabriel is terrific in the air.

I reckon he's done enough that he might push Per put for a while, similar to what Bellerin did to Debuchy. Only reason Per would come back is for leadership reasons.

Alfred Borden

Ajfunky wrote: »

Although it hasnt been the biggest test have really liked kosc and gabriel. Very quick snappy defending. Gabriel is terrific in the air.

Small sample size but cant see why Mert would come back in. The back 4 is full of pace with Gabriel back there.

Johner

Ajfunky wrote: »

Although it hasnt been the biggest test have really liked kosc and gabriel. Very quick snappy defending. Gabriel is terrific in the air.

Gabriel has earned his place now, impressed with him.

Kirby

How is that a yellow card? He won the ball perfectly.

GreNoLi

Mellow yellow.

Paully D

6 yellows and a red for Newcastle. :eek:

omega man

Ramsey BT motm really?

wonga77

Ramsey motm?

Ajfunky

Crap match

D_turbo

Robbie savage must have some taste of arsenal in hes mouth

brianregan09

Ramsey ........Man of the ma....I can't even !! What bloody game were BT watchin ???


Also that chance there for Giroud is the epitomy of why we need a new forward just smash it in the corner

wonga77

Krul was the best player on the field I thought

cson

Last bit of action there kind of shows why we need a striker who can finish.

cson

cson wrote: »

Last bit of action there kind of shows why we need a striker who can finish.

Yep, perfect match for me. Arsenal get the 3 points, but only a blind man would fail to see that we still need a clinical striker. Do it Arsene!

Skylinehead

Alfred Borden wrote: »

Small sample size but cant see why Mert would come back in. The back 4 is full of pace with Gabriel back there.

The thing is, Mertesacker has been great over the last 6 months too. No real reason to drop him. Gabriel is terrific in the games I've seen, but no real test yet bar maybe Liverpool.

That_Guy

Absolutely disgusting officiating. We defended well enough yet again and were caught out with an unfortunate deflection.

Hard to stay in the game when you're put on the back foot due to incompetent reffing from one of the leagues worst.

the untitled user

cson wrote: »

Last bit of action there kind of shows why we need a striker who can finish.

Yup. We really should have been clear by about 2 or 3 goals in that match, got the ball in some brilliant positions at times only for the players to completely mis time their runs (particularly Ox and Giroud). Thought this match should have been one to suit Walcott but he was no where to be seen for the most part.

Basil3 wrote: »

Do it Arsene!

Who is there though?

wonga77

That_Guy wrote: »

Absolutely disgusting officiating. We defended well enough yet again and were caught out with an unfortunate deflection.

Hard to stay in the game when you're put on the back foot due to incompetent reffing from one of the leagues worst.

What about the clear penalty ye got away with?

That_Guy

wonga77 wrote: »

What about the clear penalty ye got away with?

Again. Incompetent refereeing from all involved. Should have been a penalty. Never said otherwise.

Moneymaker

How the **** does Marriner get games still? In a league of bad officials he stands out as the worst.

pmasterson95

That_Guy wrote: »

Absolutely disgusting officiating. We defended well enough yet again and were caught out with an unfortunate deflection.

Hard to stay in the game when you're put on the back foot due to incompetent reffing from one of the leagues worst.

I suppose you think Mitrovic is harmless?

bad2dabone

Happy for the three points. Still waiting for us to play well.

the untitled user

the untitled user wrote: »

Who is there though?

Personally, I have no clue. There's plenty of people in the arsenal thread that have all the answers though....

That_Guy

pmasterson95 wrote: »

I suppose you think Mitrovic is harmless?

His first two sub appearances, he looked very over enthusiastic and was reckless and deserving of his first couple of yellows.

Today. Himself and Coquelin are competing for a ball in the air. He's looking to go for it and trap the ball under his foot. Coq gets there first, takes the ball away and accidentally finds his studs on his leg.

If you think he's out to intentionally harm him, I think you're wrong. I'm not saying he's an angel in any case. I just think this reputation that's been bandied about in the media is making him an easy target.

Might have warranted a yellow but certainly not a red.

Ed Winchester

That_Guy wrote: »

Absolutely disgusting officiating. We defended well enough yet again and were caught out with an unfortunate deflection.

Hard to stay in the game when you're put on the back foot due to incompetent reffing from one of the leagues worst.

Give over. The red was deserved, and he got nearly all the cards spot on.
The only obvious mistake he made was in Newcastles favour.

Newcastles discipline cost them, not the ref.

EuropeanSon

Basil3 wrote: »

Personally, I have no clue. There's plenty of people in the arsenal thread that have all the answers though....

None of them have answers, they can complain loudly though.

That_Guy

Ed Winchester wrote: »

Give over. The red was deserved, and he got nearly all the cards spot on.
The only obvious mistake he made was in Newcastles favour.

Newcastles discipline cost them, not the ref.

Really? The red was deserved? Was it malicious? No. Was he intentionally looking to stamp on him? No.

Give me a break.

He was inconsistent as hell. Yellow cards galore for us but when Arsenal make a similar foul, nothing is given?

We didn't help ourselves in some cases but there was some awful officiating throughout and I include the penalty decision in that.

omega man

That_Guy wrote: »

Absolutely disgusting officiating. We defended well enough yet again and were caught out with an unfortunate deflection.

Hard to stay in the game when you're put on the back foot due to incompetent reffing from one of the leagues worst.

You're clueless.

That_Guy

omega man wrote: »

You're clueless.

Good comeback. Very insightful.

omega man

That_Guy wrote: »

Really? The red was deserved? Was it malicious? No. Was he intentionally looking to stamp on him? No.

Give me a break.

He was inconsistent as hell. Yellow cards galore for us but when Arsenal make a similar foul, nothing is given?

We didn't help ourselves in some cases but there was some awful officiating throughout and I include the penalty decision in that.

Howard Webb on BT just went through the decision and fully backed ref with the red card. Considering he missed the peno its arsenal who should be more aggrieved.

That_Guy

omega man wrote: »

Howard Webb on BT just went through the decision and fully backed ref with the red card. Considering he missed the peno its arsenal who should be more aggrieved.

If Howard Webb said it, it must be true. Granted, he's in a better position than I in terms of having actually refereed many games but from my point of view, it was a yellow at least.

We'll see plenty more incidents like this I'm sure with players receiving yellows.

The ref missed the pen but the lino should have flagged.
There was bad officiating on both sides of the coin. I'm not disputing that at all. I just think he got the red card decision badly wrong.

omega man

That_Guy wrote: »

If Howard Webb said it, it must be true. Granted, he's in a better position than I in terms of having actually refereed many games but from my point of view, it was a yellow at least.

We'll see plenty more incidents like this I'm sure with players receiving yellows.

The ref missed the pen but the lino should have flagged.
There was bad officiating on both sides of the coin. I'm not disputing that at all. I just think he got the red card decision badly wrong.

Fair enough. I think it was a red but I'll admit I've seen yellow for far worse tackles.

the untitled user

That_Guy wrote: »

Really? The red was deserved? Was it malicious? No. Was he intentionally looking to stamp on him? No.

Doesn't matter whether it was intentional or not, he went clean over the top of the ball and came down studs first into Coquelin's shin. Thankfully in this case there wasn't much momentum behind it but that's the type of tackle that can do some serious damage. I don't think people can complain when they get a red card for going into a challenge foot raised studs first.

cson

I'm fairly convinced he tried to do Coquelin by leaving the foot in. If you watch the replay and see where he's looking - its at Coquelin well after the ball is gone.

There's only one tackle on our side, Monreal, that the ref should have carded but didn't. The home card were all well deserved.

the untitled user

cson wrote: »

I'm fairly convinced he tried to do Coquelin by leaving the foot in. If you watch the replay and see where he's looking - its at Coquelin well after the ball is gone.

Having watched the better angles of the replays thrown up on Arseblog, I believe your right, it does look intentional, especially if you look at where he's looking, it's never at the ball.

AdamD

No sympathy for Newcastle when they clearly came out to kick Arsenal off the pitch.