Leinster schools league/cup 2015/2016 senior&junior

sfbdqc

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

Correct.

Full list

Dublin minor hurlers last year:
Matthew Oliver full back
Cian O Sullivan winger
Paddy Smith - Centre

Dublin Minor football involvement last year:
Kevin Callaghan -

Dublin minor development squad this year
Darragh McKenna - 2nd row, 2 years ago, winger in TY.
Rory Clarke center/wing
Mark Donnelly wing

All JCT players last year or year before

so starting 15, 14, 12 & 5 from the JCT team in 2014.

and starting 15 & 11 from JCT team in 2013.

Assume no chance any of them will come back?

Inspector Coptoor

sfbdqc wrote: »

so starting 15, 14, 12 & 5 from the JCT team in 2014.

and starting 15 & 11 from JCT team in 2013.

Yeah.

sfbdqc

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

Yeah.

Assume some lads will be lost from the 2015 JCT team?

RedemptionZ

Didn't know that losing players to GAA was so common in Belvo.

I'm not sure where the majority of Belvedere students are from but has this always been the case and does it have anything to do with the rise of Castleknock GAA? Because that club is well on its way to going from obscurity in 1998 to being a future Kilmacud Crokes or Ballyboden and seems to have done an unbelievable job at attracting players.

Inspector Coptoor

sfbdqc wrote: »

Assume some lads will be lost from the 2015 JCT team?

More than likely.
It's a recurring trend.

Especially now the GAA minor tournament has been reduced from u-18 to u-17.
It will impact the TY development squad more than the 5th year senior players.

It may give more lads who play GAA the chance to play JCT in 3rd year, focus on GAA in 4th year, come back to rugby in 5th year as they will be overage for GAA u-17 squads and then pick a sport in 6th year, hopefully rugby.

Inspector Coptoor

RedemptionZ wrote: »

Didn't know that losing players to GAA was so common in Belvo.

I'm not sure where the majority of Belvedere students are from but has this always been the case and does it have anything to do with the rise of Castleknock GAA? Because that club is well on its way to going from obscurity in 1998 to being a future Kilmacud Crokes or Ballyboden and seems to have done an unbelievable job at attracting players.

It's not just Castleknock GAA club. It's Brigids, na Fianna, Vincents etc.
These are huge GAA clubs that the lads would have played with since they were 5 or years of age.

Then you have the influence of the Dublin and Meath development squads as well, and, in many cases, players being asked to make a choice between the codes.

sfbdqc

RedemptionZ wrote: »

Didn't know that losing players to GAA was so common in Belvo.

I'm not sure where the majority of Belvedere students are from but has this always been the case and does it have anything to do with the rise of Castleknock GAA? Because that club is well on its way to going from obscurity in 1998 to being a future Kilmacud Crokes or Ballyboden and seems to have done an unbelievable job at attracting players.

Castleknock GAA is affecting Castleknock College.

sfbdqc

Some club lads manage to balance GAA careers with rugby.. shame same doesn't really happen in schools rugby.

RedemptionZ

sfbdqc wrote: »

Castleknock GAA is affecting Castleknock College.

Has a huge catchment area though, definitely has Belvedere students in their underage squads.

sfbdqc

RedemptionZ wrote: »

Has a huge catchment area though, definitely has Belvedere students in their underage squads.

probably.. Dublin GAA is a massive machine and extremely well run.. always going to be a battle at underage to get athletes picking rugby over GAA

mikeydublin

Anywhere to watch this game online? Setanta go doesn't seem to work for UPC customers.

Inspector Coptoor

Use upc horizon or the player on virgin media.ie.

sfbdqc

Harry Byrne starts.

funtime93

sfbdqc wrote: »

Harry Byrne starts.

Source?

sfbdqc

funtime93 wrote: »

Source?

sent to me from someone at donnybrook

funtime93

sfbdqc wrote: »

sent to me from someone at donnybrook

thought he was injured. wonder if he was fit all along and not selecting him was just a ploy.

sfbdqc

funtime93 wrote: »

thought he was injured. wonder if he was fit all along and not selecting him was just a ploy.

been carrying an injury all year.. came off bench in 1st game, started 2nd game but came off early IIRC

culhanp

Belvo 7-0 great try, few early handling mistakes in the game.

Inspector Coptoor

Try Belvo.
Scored by McKeown after great interplay with his fullback O Sullivan.

Converted by 13 Jennings

7-0 Belvo

Inspector Coptoor

Handling mistakes expected all afternoon with slick conditions.

Michaels penalty after ref missed Michaels in at the side and pinged Belvo instead

7-3.

Inspector Coptoor

Penalty Belvo

Scored by Jennings

10-3 Belvo

Inspector Coptoor

Try Belvo
Scored by 9 Cagney after great work by 1 McCaffrey and 7 Max Kearney

Converted by 13 Jennings

17-3 Belvo

sfbdqc

Seriously impressive from Belvo.

Inspector Coptoor

Michaels penalty missed.

Belvo soaked up serious pressure there.

17-3 at half time

sfbdqc

Lucky to not get a card really. Smart though.

Inspector Coptoor

Yeah.
Agreed.
Can see one in the second half for repeated infringements

Michaels no angels either tho with a late hit

Inspector Coptoor

Second try for Belvo off a clean line out for McKeown

Conversion missed

22-3 Belvo

sfbdqc

Belvo are serious explosive, have to be favourites in final. If they can get parity against Roscrea's pack they could open them up in the backs.

Inspector Coptoor

Michaels try scored by Michaels captain at FB

Converted


22-10 Belvo

Kearney off injured
Iredale on

Synode

Try Michaels and conversion. 22-10

51 minutes

sfbdqc

Jack Kelly stepping up hugely.

sfbdqc

22-15 with 10 left..

Inspector Coptoor

Try Michaels
22-15 to Belvo

Con missed


Try Belvo

McKeown hatrick

Inspector Coptoor

29-15

sfbdqc

Killer blow. That must be it now. Experience almost always wins out in the senior cup.

Inspector Coptoor

Try Belvo and converted
29-15

Try Michaels and converted
29-22
4 minutes left

sfbdqc

29-22.. have i spoke too soon. 5 minutes left

Inspector Coptoor

Intercept try Belvo and converted

36-22 Belvo

2 mins left

sfbdqc

That's it then. Great game.. Michael's will be left wondering what if.

RedemptionZ

Absolutely bottled by Michaels. Those two intercepts were from unnecessary risk. The second one especially. So stupid. Think they could've won. Thought Belvo should've had a yellow at some point too.

Belvo are a lethal team. Should be one hell of a final. Backs vs Forwards.

Inspector Coptoor

sfbdqc wrote: »

That's it then. Great game.. Michael's will be left wondering what if.

You think they will be?
After being dominated for the first 35?

Don't get me wrong, Michaels grew into the game but the referees inconsistency was appalling.
Penalty count was massively skewed and he appeared to only be reffing one team at the break down.

I said Belvo by 8-14.
Happy with that.

Lots to work on but at least the line out maul Defence has VASTLY improved and will need further work for the threat CCR hold in the final

sfbdqc

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

You think they will be?
After being dominated for the first 35?

Don't get me wrong, Michaels grew into the game but the referees inconsistency was appalling.
Penalty count was massively skewed and he appeared to only be reffing one team at the break down.

I said Belvo by 8-14.
Happy with that.

Lots to work on but at least the line out maul Defence has VASTLY improved and will need further work for the threat CCR hold in the final

Two intercepts when they were on top?
A poor 1st half, of course they will be.

Belvo are deserved winners but it was much closer than the score would indicate.

Hope Belvo do it in the final now, backs like that should be rewarded.

funtime93

Michaels had some great individuals. Kelly at full back will be in the irish u20's squad next year surely. Dunne in the second row looks a prospect aswell. Penny the 7 is only a fourth year, he was seriously impressive also. Belvo probably deserved it though michaels could easily have won it if they hadn't gifted 14 points to belvo.

Quint2010

I fear for Belvedere in the final. The weather on the day will be a massive factor. If it's dry I'd fancy them. But otherwise....

sfbdqc

funtime93 wrote: »

Michaels had some great individuals. Kelly at full back will be in the irish u20's squad next year surely. Dunne in the second row looks a prospect aswell. Penny the 7 is only a fourth year, he was seriously impressive also. Belvo probably deserved it though michaels could easily have won it if they hadn't gifted 14 points to belvo.

Penny was very good, very small though. Hopefully he has a growth spurt over the summer. Better player than his brother.

Same as most Michael's teams in regards to some excellent individuals who could push for the academy.(Kelly,Kelleher,Byrne,Dowling,Dunne)

sfbdqc

Hopefully players like Jennings & McKeown can push on and be factors for Leinster u20 next september, maybe Sexton too.

Cagney is u18 next year and i'd be shocked if he wasn't Leinster u18 scrumhalf.

funtime93

sfbdqc wrote: »

Penny was very good, very small though. Hopefully he has a growth spurt over the summer. Better player than his brother.

Same as most Michael's teams in regards to some excellent individuals who could push for the academy.(Kelly,Kelleher,Byrne,Dowling,Dunne)

Just been told by a mate that a decent lot of that michaels team are underage again next year. The hooker, both second rows, the 7, the half backs, a centre and a winger and another winger chris carey who didn't play due to injury. Plus a few subs aswell including james Ryan's younger brother. They seem to always have a lot of 4th and 5th years in their teams every year although Kelly is definitely the best player they had this year.

RugbyRugby2016

For all the talent Michael produce, they really should have more than one cup to show for it since the start of the decade.

RugbyRugby2016

For all the talent Michaels produce, they really should have more than one cup to show for it since the start of the decade.

albacrypts

Just looked at odds Paddy Power Belvo 2/9 Roscrea 11/4 What sort of a spread is this suggesting for Belvo -10 ? There must be a wall of money on Belvo to justify these odds. Roscrea a great bet in a two horse race especially with record of winning last year.

Belvo hunger and desire for revenge v Roscrea chip on the shoulder for again being seen as second best and winners experience

No idea who will win but there is only one team to bet on with these odds even if you are a Belvo supporter. Winnings will compensate for game loss and who cares losing a few euro if they actually win