Leinster schools league/cup 2015/2016 senior&junior

Bridge93

15-7 with 13 mins left. Andrews on top at this stage

errlloyd

BDJW wrote: »

56 minutes gone according to Twitter

Can you tell me what hashtag, or account you're getting the feed from?

Bridge93

errlloyd wrote: »

Can you tell me what hashtag, or account you're getting the feed from?

St Andrews Alumni always follow the schools games

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errlloyd wrote: »

Can you tell me what hashtag, or account you're getting the feed from?

I'm following Hugh Cahell (he works for RTE).

18-7 with 10 minutes to go

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It finished 25-7. Intercept by Michaels in the last play of the game

errlloyd

BDJW wrote: »

It finished 25-7. Intercept by Michaels in the last play of the game

Just to break the hearts of the people who had Andrews on the spread.

Bridge93

Was the spread overly kind to Andrews or did they not show up today? To lose by 18 to a team down a player isn't great

funtime93

So michaels had a guy red carded for a head butt? Seriously? A headbutt at schools level? Can they get banned?

Bridge93

funtime93 wrote: »

So michaels had a guy red carded for a head butt? Seriously? A headbutt at schools level? Can they get banned?

The number 6 I heard was the culprit. They can be banned if history holds true. Sean Coughlan a few years ago (conveniently one day short of missing the final though) and was Conor Gilsenan banned for gouging?

The Lost Sheep

funtime93 wrote: »

So michaels had a guy red carded for a head butt? Seriously? A headbutt at schools level? Can they get banned?

Why such surprise at a headbutt...
Of course they can get banned. Its a competitive game under the auspices of the Leinster Branch. The referee has a match report to fill in and a red card form to fill out. A hearing will be held and player&school will attend

funtime93

They still won fairly comfortably with 14 men. Andrews probably not up to much but it's still impressive by michaels. Still only 4th favourites at best though.

ItsChecoTime

Bridge93 wrote: »

Was the spread overly kind to Andrews or did they not show up today? To lose by 18 to a team down a player isn't great

One intercept try and one sliced kick in the Andrews 22 led to another try glossed the scoreline quite a bit. Andrews went down to 14 as well for 10 mins with the Andrews 12 being sin binned when the Michaels 6 got sent off.

Andrews set piece was poor which was the downfall, lost almost every lineout and were pushed back in the scrum. They were decimated by injuries in the pack in fairness though with 4 forwards injured so that didn't help. Larmour got injured before ht, still played on and managed to score a try, serious talent.

Michaels did well considering they had 14 men for the last 50 mins. Solid set piece and very good defense. Think they might fall short in attack against the better teams they had a lot of knock ons today. Take the Andrews centres and put them into the Michaels team and you'd have a very good team.

RedemptionZ

Guessing if an Andrews player got sinbinned at the same time as Dowling getting sent off there was mitigating circumstances of sorts? Anyone who was there able to say what happened?

I'd guess a one match ban?

ArmchairQB

RedemptionZ wrote: »

Guessing if an Andrews player got sinbinned at the same time as Dowling getting sent off there was mitigating circumstances of sorts? Anyone who was there able to say what happened?

I'd guess a one match ban?

Would think it would be 2 games at the very least, Oisin Dowling one of their better players they will want him back as quick as possible

RedemptionZ

ArmchairQB wrote: »

Would think it would be 2 games at the very least, Oisin Dowling one of their better players they will want him back as quick as possible

Didn't Sean Coughlan only get a small ban for his late/high (can't remember) tackle against I think roscrea in 2013 which resulted in him not even missing a match? I don't think they like handing out big bans in schools rugby considering how short the competition is. Unless the Andrews player is seriously hurt I doubt it'll be big. Never know though I suppose.

Inspector Coptoor

I'd be much more forgiving of a late/high tackle than a headbutt.

A foul action on a rugby pitch or anywhere.
Right up there eye gouging, fish hooking and testicle grabbing.
Has no place in the game.

Looking forward to tomorrow's game in Donnybrook.
Belvo to cover the 11 point spread

funtime93

Gilsenan gouged a lad and didn't miss a game either.

ArmchairQB

funtime93 wrote: »

Gilsenan gouged a lad and didn't miss a game either.

Brought a barrister to the hearing and frightened the bejes*s out of disciplinary committee. They have moved on since then and have the committee stacked with legal professionals.

ArmchairQB

RedemptionZ wrote: »

Didn't Sean Coughlan only get a small ban for his late/high (can't remember) tackle against I think roscrea in 2013 which resulted in him not even missing a match? I don't think they like handing out big bans in schools rugby considering how short the competition is. Unless the Andrews player is seriously hurt I doubt it'll be big. Never know though I suppose.

Brought his mother in and she started bawling which saw him get off lightly (great tactic by the way) plus it was for a high tackle possibly a spear if I remember and not a headbutt which as said above will be deemed far more serious but guessing the outcome is probably a fools game.

RedemptionZ

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

I'd be much more forgiving of a late/high tackle than a headbutt.

A foul action on a rugby pitch or anywhere.
Right up there eye gouging, fish hooking and testicle grabbing.
Has no place in the game.

Looking forward to tomorrow's game in Donnybrook.
Belvo to cover the 11 point spread

Has anyone been paralysed by a headbutt before?

I understand the scumbaggery aspect associated with a headbutt and I do think there should be a punishment given out but it's considerably less dangerous than a spear or eye gouge. Even a relatively weak high or late tackle can have far more dire consequences at schools rugby where some players are simply put on another level athletically to others on the same pitch.

Inspector Coptoor

12 and a half minutes in and Belvo score a try after through the forwards after a great break by winger McKeown.
Belvo dominating from the get go.

Converted by 12 Conor Jennings

7-0 Belvo

Inspector Coptoor

Try on 15 minutes by 12 Conor Jennings

Conversion missed by Jennings

12-0 Belvo

11393551

cheers anywhere to get updates on roscrea? Thanks

jony_dols

11393551 wrote: »

cheers anywhere to get updates on roscrea? Thanks

6-3 to Kilkenny, around 25min in.

ItsChecoTime

Midlands103Sport are retweeting updates from the match Kilkenny leading 6-3 at the moment

sydthebeat

6 - 3 to kilkenny currently

Inspector Coptoor

Another try for Belvo, converted by Jennings.

19-0.
30 mins gone

Inspector Coptoor

Another Belvo try.
From Centre Sexton (I think)

Fantastic conversion by Jennings.

26-0 at HT

sydthebeat

roscrea 10 - 6 up into second half

InsideatAnimo

15 - 6 Roscrea ahead ...first ever cup game as holders... ever.

Inspector Coptoor

Penalty - Belvo
29-0

Try McCaffrey - belvo
Conversion- missed

34-0

sydthebeat

22 - 6 to roscrea in the final stages

InsideatAnimo

FT 22 - 6 to the holders

The Lost Sheep

Crescent beating Glenstal 22-10 just into the 2nd half

Tarf1234

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Crescent beating Glenstal 22-10 just into the 2nd half

But in the new format that will mean that Glenstal win the cup..?? Still can't get my head around the new munster format!!

The Lost Sheep

Tarf1234 wrote: »

But in the new format that will mean that Glenstal win the cup..?? Still can't get my head around the new munster format!!

There isn't anything complicated about format of Munster schools cups.
10 schools. 5 opening round games. 5 winners and 1 loser of opening games go through to the quarter finals. 4 other losers of opening round playoff for quarter final places.
Every school gets minimum of 2 games in their principal competition. Something the Leinster schools should really do...

ArmchairQB

Impressive from Belvo

Inspector Coptoor

ArmchairQB wrote: »

Impressive from Belvo

Not hugely.

They'll be disappointed with lack of execution and lack of killer instinct.

Should have put 60 on them.

Imhof Tank

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

There isn't anything complicated about format of Munster schools cups.
10 schools. 5 opening round games. 5 winners and 1 loser of opening games go through to the quarter finals. 4 other losers of opening round playoff for quarter final places.
Every school gets minimum of 2 games in their principal competition. Something the Leinster schools should really do...

Hardly uncomplicated.

which first round loser goes through without a playoff?
what determines who plays who in the losers round?
which playoff winners play which first round winners?

I know you will have the answers on the tip of your tongue as always but however it works it is not a simple format.

ArmchairQB

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

Not hugely.

They'll be disappointed with lack of execution and lack of killer instinct.

Should have put 60 on them.

Wow! We're Newbridge that bad

The Lost Sheep

Imhof Tank wrote: »

Hardly uncomplicated.

which first round loser goes through without a playoff?
what determines who plays who in the losers round?
which playoff winners play which first round winners?

I know you will have the answers on the tip of your tongue as always but however it works it is not a simple format.

No need for ....

It was a Simple draw. 5 winners go through and then 1 loser got a bye from this playoff round.
Not that complicated and better system than straight knock out that's in Leinster and Ulster.
Then draw for quarters. No repeat ties from earlier rounds

Inspector Coptoor

ArmchairQB wrote: »

Wow! We're Newbridge that bad

It wasn't that Newbridge were that bad.
Belvedere just didn't let them play their own game. The Belvedere line speed for the first 55 minutes was on point.
The amount of turnovers and steals Belvo got was incredible and with captain Brian Egan running their lineout, they severely disrupted the Newbridge set piece.

Imhof Tank

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

There isn't anything complicated about format of Munster schools cups.
.

:rolleyes:

The Lost Sheep

Imhof Tank wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Its not complicated and much better than what they do in Leinster.
And it isn't complicated. Everyone gets a second chance. There is 10 teams. 5 winners go through to quarters. 4 of the teams who lose their opening game playoff for 2 spots and the 5th side that lost its opening game gets a bye into the quarters. That isn't complicated.

Imhof Tank

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Its not complicated and much better than what they do in Leinster.
And it isn't complicated. Everyone gets a second chance. There is 10 teams. 5 winners go through to quarters. 4 of the teams who lose their opening game playoff for 2 spots and the 5th side that lost its opening game gets a bye into the quarters. That isn't complicated.

Have you heard the expression "if you're explaining, you're losing"?

Let it go man!

Zzippy

Imhof Tank wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Imhof Tank wrote: »

Have you heard the expression "if you're explaining, you're losing"?

Let it go man!

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Quint2010

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Its not complicated and much better than what they do in Leinster.
And it isn't complicated. Everyone gets a second chance. There is 10 teams. 5 winners go through to quarters. 4 of the teams who lose their opening game playoff for 2 spots and the 5th side that lost its opening game gets a bye into the quarters. That isn't complicated.

I like that system. How are the four losers drawn? Are they seeded by how much they lost by or just pulled from a hat randomly?

RedemptionZ

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Its not complicated and much better than what they do in Leinster.
And it isn't complicated. Everyone gets a second chance. There is 10 teams. 5 winners go through to quarters. 4 of the teams who lose their opening game playoff for 2 spots and the 5th side that lost its opening game gets a bye into the quarters. That isn't complicated.

Why does one of the losers get a bye? Also makes the first round relatively redundant if every loser has another chance. You get more games absolutely but that doesn't necessarily make it better if the competitiveness or a large part of it is taken out of the first round.

Tarf1234

If giving people more games is the issue why not just do a league or champions cup style format? It seems a bit ridiculous to me and doesn't really fit in with the hole 'knockout' cup rugby thing...

RobbieRuns

Without entering into the complicated debate, I would be in favour of young men who train really hard getting at least two games in a championship. It can never be a long league system as they have exams to get onto after Easter, but two games would be good and just reward for hard work. Never dismiss something until you have listened to see if it improves what you have in place.