Swansea vs Manchester United Match Thread 30/8/15 k/o 16.00 Sky

xabi

Lol, delighted, that chubby German is useless as is the man that doesn't know his name

Panthro

xabi wrote: »

Lol, delighted, that chubby German is useless as is the man that doesn't know his name

What?

firemansam4

firemansam4 wrote: »

Title challenging team worried about a mid table club like Liverpool??

Swansea are a very good team but they wont challenge for the title

Heisenberg1

firemansam4 wrote: »

Title challenging team worried about a mid table club like Liverpool??

What are you basing that on that they are a title challenging team ?

Polo_Mint

xabi wrote: »

Lol, delighted, that chubby German is useless as is the man that doesn't know his name

This is the post that comes back to haunt you. thanks for the quote

firemansam4

Heisenberg1 wrote: »

What are you basing that on that they are a title challenging team ?

Sarcasm detector??

posturingpat

Quite the philosophy on show.

RedorDead

Rooney looks a shadow of himself. He was put through twice - once by shaw and once through a long ball and hesitated both times. Looks to have lost a yard of pace over the summer.

Depay had an awful game. Looked almost disinterested. No idea why mata was taken off ahead of him.

The sooner this window shuts and we can get DDG back between the sticks the better.

Also - where is the tempo gone that was evident in the first half against Bruges. We need to play at a much much higher tempo. Frustrating having to sit on that performance for 2 weeks now.

Mr_Muffin

Does Van Gal tell the players to hit the long ball to Fellani or do they just do it?

BorneTobyWilde

Very interesting stat: No team has beaten Manchester United more times today than Swansea.

Call Me Jimmy

United look to be neutured. Swansea played really well again though. Gomis and Ayew aren't just tanks, they can really play. Great close control from Gomis for the chance that rolled wide and the pass from Ayew for the second goal, real quality up front.

Andersonisgod

Mr_Muffin wrote: »

Does Van Gal tell the players to hit the long ball to Fellani or do they just do it?

100% it's a tactic Van Gael has decided on. When you bring Fellaini on and use him as a striker only one thing is going to happen and that is 20 minutes of route one football. He brought Carrick on for Schneiderlin because he switches play quicker and Young on for Mata down the right so he can go down the outside and get crosses into the box. These things weren't a coincidence, all entirely planned.

The concerning thing for Man Utd is that this is Van Gaal's go-to tactic at Man Utd when searching for a goal.

Lucas Hood

Andersonisgod wrote: »

100% it's a tactic Van Gael has decided on. When you bring Fellaini on and use him as a striker only one thing is going to happen and that is 20 minutes of route one football. He brought Carrick on for Schneiderlin because he switches play quicker and Young on for Mata down the right so he can go down the outside and get crosses into the box. These things weren't a coincidence, all entirely planned.

The concerning thing for Man Utd is that this is Van Gaal's go-to tactic at Man Utd when searching for a goal.

Schneiderlin was on a booking. I'm sure that had something to do with that sub.

BorneTobyWilde

League makes no sense. Too many teams getting beaten by teams that have invested little
in personnel.

Call Me Jimmy

Andersonisgod wrote: »

100% it's a tactic Van Gael has decided on. When you bring Fellaini on and use him as a striker only one thing is going to happen and that is 20 minutes of route one football. He brought Carrick on for Schneiderlin because he switches play quicker and Young on for Mata down the right so he can go down the outside and get crosses into the box. These things weren't a coincidence, all entirely planned.

The concerning thing for Man Utd is that this is Van Gaal's go-to tactic at Man Utd when searching for a goal.

I'm not endorsing it but it was only 2 weeks ago it came good and it wasn't like united were getting anywhere with what they were doing. I can't imagine another tactical change that would have had a bearing on the result because the players are so invested in the 'philosophy', unconscious 'competence' etc. Besides hoofing to fellaini, other tactical changes would see them basically playing the same way.

Andersonisgod

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Schneiderlin was on a booking. I'm sure that had something to do with that sub.

It might have played a part given that the holding midfielder may have been required to make a tactical foul given Swansea were countering pretty well at the time but I do think Van Gael was already lining up the Fellaini change and Carrick providing supply to Young was part of that.

Andersonisgod

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

I'm not endorsing it but it was only 2 weeks ago it came good and it wasn't like united were getting anywhere with what they were doing. I can't imagine another tactical change that would have had a bearing on the result because the players are so invested in the 'philosophy', unconscious 'competence' etc. Besides hoofing to fellaini, other tactical changes would see them basically playing the same way.

I would say that of Van Gaal's options on the bench, Fellaini was the most likely to cause an impact on the game (and he did given that the last 20 minutes of Man Utd's attacking play was centered around him). I also agree that anyone else on that bench probably wouldn't have changed very much in Man Utd's approach (an argument could be made for Hernandez but given how deep Swansea were I don't think his running in behind was required at that stage). I would say though the fact that setting up your team for route one football to Fellaini when your chasing a game is a comment on the sorry state of the current Man Utd squad.

SlickRic

It consistently amazes me how Utd fans get shocked at Liverpool fans' delight at Utd losses, just like it amazes me that Liverpool fans are shocked when Utd fans delight in Liverpool losses.

Newsflash: fans like it when longtime rival teams lose.

I do love how Van Gaal speaks to journalists

posturingpat

rarnes1 wrote: »

I do love how Van Gaal speaks to journalists

Total opposite here,i think he lacks class.

posturingpat

posturingpat wrote: »

Total opposite here,i think he lacks class.

I like it. Sky Sports journos looking for controversial comment need to be taken down a peg or two every so often

jayo26

SlickRic wrote: »

It consistently amazes me how Utd fans get shocked at Liverpool fans' delight at Utd losses, just like it amazes me that Liverpool fans are shocked when Utd fans delight in Liverpool losses.

Newsflash: fans like it when longtime rival teams lose.

I agree mate sure if we cant have banter and accept it whats the point in supporting a team.

Grid.

Diabolical display after Swansea drew level, having controlled the game......Rooney needs to be benched and an out and out striker bought. Very poor game from Depay too.....nothing happening in the final third only confusion!

Maximus Alexander

SlickRic wrote: »

It consistently amazes me how Utd fans get shocked at Liverpool fans' delight at Utd losses, just like it amazes me that Liverpool fans are shocked when Utd fans delight in Liverpool losses.

Newsflash: fans like it when longtime rival teams lose.

Club rivalries are part of the fun. Some people just take it too seriously / personally.

Sanity_Saviour

posturingpat wrote: »

Total opposite here,i think he lacks class.

There's nothing less important than "class" in being a football manager, such a nonsense concept

posturingpat

Sanity_Saviour wrote: »

There's nothing less important than "class" in being a football manager, such a nonsense concept

If you say so.

niallo27

Sanity_Saviour wrote: »

There's nothing less important than "class" in being a football manager, such a nonsense concept

Why is it nonsense they are the main representative of any football club. Looks at the likes of Ancellotti the man is class all over.

niallo27

rarnes1 wrote: »

I like it. Sky Sports journos looking for controversial comment need to be taken down a peg or two every so often

That's fair enough but doing it when responding to a perfectly normal question is pointless in my opinion. He must be feeling the pressure a bit now.

niallo27

niallo27 wrote: »

That's fair enough but doing it when responding to a perfectly normal question is pointless in my opinion. He must be feeling the pressure a bit now.

It's not as if he's poking opponents in the eye! He seems to have had comtempt for journos for years. I'd say he's feeling pressure alright. However, he's in the game a long time and knows the crack.

K4t

Utd should have signed Jack Cork.

Anyway, 66% possession so no serious problems..

monkey9

MOTD 2 is on BBC 1 at 10:30pm for anyone wants to catch the highlights.

Sanity_Saviour

niallo27 wrote: »

Why is it nonsense they are the main representative of any football club. Looks at the likes of Ancellotti the man is class all over.

Theyre not there to win the "Nice Guy award", they're there to win football games.

I'm sure he is a "classy" class man, but he's also not in a job at the moment.

K4t

Should be an FA inquiry into Swansea changing their shape today - that kind of behaviour needs to be stamped out of the game.

That_Guy

Only seeing the highlights now. Swansea are absolute class. Gomis and Ayew are just magic together.

A really good team and are deserving of their recent successes.

fullstop

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Fair play to Swansea great side with a great manager

Our attack has some serious issues, Gona be some funny panic transfer headlines later

Glorious result.
Hilarious result.

As you'd say yourself!

bad2dabone

Will de gea be kept? Has the relationship broken down there?
Romero was like a zombie for that second goal...