Mayo or Dublin to win replay?

Johngoose

I would have lost my shirt today on the game had I backed a team in the bookies, thank God something stopped me. Who do you think will win the replay?

Nidgeweasel

Football will be the winner.

Stinicker

As Joe McQuillan most likely will not be refereeing it then Mayo will actually get a bit of fair play and win it.

Dublin's Penalty early in the first half was a clear and blatant dive.

Dublins second goal should have been a free out

The Dublin defender touched the ball on the ground when Cluxton got dispossessed in the second half. Should have been another Penalty.

Aidan O'Se should have got a penalty, so Joe McQuillan gave Mayo one out of what were three clear penalties. He gave several Dublin players Yellow cards for what were clear black card offenses.

Mayo played 16 men today and that there is no doubt.

GreaseGunner

Mayo by no more than 5.

pimpmyhat

I think Mayo will win the next day. I think the absence of Connolly will be big loss for Dublin. The replay will prob be a bit more open

pimpmyhat

looking forward to the analysis tonight on the sunday game as there are plenty of talking points

Stinicker

If the Mayo forwards stood down the heels of the Dublin backs then Cluxton would have been forced to go long each time, Mayo made some major blunders today. Kerry have learned alot and are always improving and today Kerry would have beaten either Mayo or Dublin comfortably. Kerry employed a great tactic last year which disrupted the Donegal short kick-out and you have to pressure their Goalkeeper. Cluxton was well rattled and even Joe McQuillan couldn't win it for them this time when Cluxton fired that soft free near the end to the left and wide.

Shurimgreat

Mayo have a poor record in replays and after big performances generally. When they do well one day, they do bad the next. Dublin dictated this game for 60 minutes and will do the same the next day, only probably for 70 minutes. They will learn from their mistakes and get the job done. Mayo on the otherhand struggle to learn from mistakes and its probably why they lose replays.

Dublin to win by 6 points - like they should have done today.

Shurimgreat

pimpmyhat wrote: »

looking forward to the analysis tonight on the sunday game as there are plenty of talking points

I think this game probably saved the championship from an excitement point of view. Is there any way to structure the championship so there are more games like this? How about the quarter finals changed to two groups of four. This would ensure more high quality games at the business end. It would still mean teams giving their all in every game.

Mr. Incognito

Backed the draw as nothing between them.

Impossible to pick a winner.

OldMrBrennan83

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Paulzx

Stinicker wrote: »

Dublin's Penalty early in the first half was a clear and blatant dive.
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What?????????

Whatever arguement there is to be made that it was outside the line and should have been a free there is certainly no arguement to say it was a dive.

It was a clear trip

corny

Stinicker wrote: »

As Joe McQuillan most likely will not be refereeing it then Mayo will actually get a bit of fair play and win it.

Dublin's Penalty early in the first half was a clear and blatant dive.

Dublins second goal should have been a free out

The Dublin defender touched the ball on the ground when Cluxton got dispossessed in the second half. Should have been another Penalty.

Aidan O'Se should have got a penalty, so Joe McQuillan gave Mayo one out of what were three clear penalties. He gave several Dublin players Yellow cards for what were clear black card offenses.

Mayo played 16 men today and that there is no doubt.

Even for you this is priceless.:D

Poor_old_gill

Dublin to not be that poor again- Dublin by 4/5

Shurimgreat

Patww79 wrote: »

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Its hard to know but they should at least try it. Two groups of four and the winner of each group going to the AI Final. Each game would become do or die and probably the team who wins all three games would go through. It would also give provincial winners a second chance too and teams who have an off day in a quarter final.

As it stands there's only one or two absorbing games all year. Usually involving Mayo funnily enough!

Shurimgreat

Paulzx wrote: »

What?????????

Whatever arguement there is to be made that it was outside the line and should have been a free there is certainly no arguement to say it was a dive.

It was a clear trip

It wasn't a trip or anything of the sort. The best angle is a slow mo from behind. The player tripped over his own heels and was falling. He was half way down when the mayo man tugged slightly on his arm. In hindsight it was a laughable decision but then again most penalties against mayo are laughable.

Borders no.2

You'd imagine that the momentum is with Mayo but they were hugely confident that they would take Kerry in the replay last year and that didn't work out.

Dublin will have a lot of questions to ask of themselves during the week. This match has sufficiently lowered expectations as to the quality of football we can expect so it should be a better game.

At this stage I'd say Mayo but will have to see how both teams line out, who's injured and whether Connolly gets off. The GAA have set a dangerous precedent with letting players off in recent weeks and Connolly could easily get his overturned on that basis.

JohnBoy26

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Its hard to know but they should at least try it. Two groups of four and the winner of each group going to the AI Final. Each game would become do or die and probably the team who wins all three games would go through. It would also give provincial winners a second chance too and teams who have an off day in a quarter final.

As it stands there's only one or two absorbing games all year. Usually involving Mayo funnily enough!

Not this sh1te again. The Championship is fine the way it is. Changing it won't make an iota of a difference.

Shurimgreat

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Not this sh1te again. The Championship is fine the way it is. Changing it won't make an iota of a difference.

Wtf? Its crap the way it is.

90% of games up to the semi finals are one sided hammerings and over as contests after 20 minutes. And its getting worse and worse as each year passes.

I don't like using soccer analagies but even the FA Cup has good games in the early rounds. Likewise American Football.

The GAA championship becomes more and more focused on the AI semi finals and finals to the detriment of early rounds.

JohnBoy26

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Wtf? Its crap the way it is.

90% of games up to the semi finals are one sided hammerings and over as contests after 20 minutes. And its getting worse and worse as each year passes.

You will always have 3 or 4 teams that are well ahead of the rest. That's the way it has always been and It's the way it always will be. It's the same in every sport.

No amount of change to the championship will fix that. I also don't agree that 90℅ of the games are one sided. Some may be but there are many close games too.

OldMrBrennan83

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Shurimgreat

Patww79 wrote: »

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Fair point, but there's too many one sided games, too many poor teams, too few good teams, and too few good games. Its not rocket science. Either accept the status quo or make an effort to lift the number of good games and good teams. As it stands, its becoming a farce and the back door hasn't really improved matters.

W123-80's

Fierce hard call. Momentum with Mayo.
What are the chances of Connolly getting the red card overturned?
I think Mayo can win the replay. They had ample chances in the second half to win the match,

BohToffee

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Dublin don't have the forwards? I stand corrected but I believe that the Mayo starting 6 scored 1point from play??
That being said I reckoned this was mayos year up to now but Kerry will fear nothing from today...

OldMrBrennan83

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Dirty Dingus McGee

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Not this sh1te again. The Championship is fine the way it is. Changing it won't make an iota of a difference.

It will if you get the best teams playing each other more often and get teams of equal ability playing each other more often.

JohnBoy26

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

It will if you get the best teams playing each other more often and get teams of equal ability playing each other more often.

Sounds great in theory. In practice however.............

Sunnyisland

I think Dublin will have gained more from this game than Mayo,as usual Dublin walk through lenster and never have a real game till quarter finals or semi, so today's match was a real first game for them and they can only improve. Dublin to win by 6/7 .

thinkstoomuch1

realies wrote: »

I think Dublin will have gained more from this game than Mayo,as usual Dublin walk through lenster and never have a real game till quarter finals or semi, so today's match was a real first game for them and they can only improve. Dublin to win by 6/7 .

That's my view also
Dublin ist test today came and they seemed flat towards the end this game will improve them

Dublin have forwards the problem has been linking defence to attack against blanket defence team and mayo sweeper caused them problem

Mayo on the other hand simply don't have the forwards to score like Dublin and it's easier fix a system than try find scoring forwards in a week
The team that learns the most wins replay and you would suspect gavin will learn more from Dublin performance today
I don't think kerry are too happy if Dublin win as this game will bring Dublin on a lot and is just what Dublin need
There fresh all summer but they need to sharpen up and today will do that

Ordinary man

Mayo spent too much time today trying to nulify the dubs rather than making the dubs worry about them. It was only when they thought the game was gone that they opened up and dublin crumbled. Hopefully they won't make that mistake in the replay and go for the jugular from the off

Miccoli

Without McQulin Mayo score about 8 points today , decent ref and the dubs win handily.

Stinicker

Miccoli wrote: »

Without McQulin Mayo score about 8 points today , decent ref and the dubs win handily.

A decent refereee would have punished Dublin properly for their non-stop fouling, apologies to all Tyrone people you team is not the dirtiest, Dublin are. Mayo should have gotten three penalties and Dublin should have got 4 black cards and at least 3 red cards. A decent ref will see Mayo annihilate Dublin.

STB.

Stinicker wrote: »

If the Mayo forwards stood down the heels of the Dublin backs then Cluxton would have been forced to go long each time, Mayo made some major blunders today. Kerry have learned alot and are always improving and today Kerry would have beaten either Mayo or Dublin comfortably. Kerry employed a great tactic last year which disrupted the Donegal short kick-out and you have to pressure their Goalkeeper. Cluxton was well rattled and even Joe McQuillan couldn't win it for them this time when Cluxton fired that soft free near the end to the left and wide.

Kerry this, Kerry that. This thread is nothing to do with Kerry.

Your posts are becoming very one dimensional.

As for Cluxton, you really need to get over him.

If we get a decent replay without ridiculous tactics being employed by both managers as was the case today, whereby the players are actually allowed play, then it will be a cracker. Oh yeah and decent officials to ref the game would also be a help. McQuillan was terrible today.

Stinicker

STB. wrote: »

Oh yeah and decent officials to ref the game would also be a help.

Completely Agreed, were it not for this referee Dublin would have lost by 5+ points today, he has been consistently biased in favour of Dublin since 2011 and this same man has refereed

Dublin V Kerry 2011 AI-Final (Dublin won solely because of Referee)
Dublin V Mayo 2012 (Mayo scraped through despite best efforts of Ref)
Dublin V Mayo 2013 (Dublin won solely because of Referee, Cost Mayo the AI)
Dublin V Donegal 2014 (Gave Dublin everything but they still lost)
Dublin V Mayo 2015 (Dublin should have lost, cost Mayo the game)

On each and every occasion he has ruined the contest and been biased in favour of Dublin. There is a sub-forum for conspiracy theories because I'm beginning to think that it is no longer a coincidence that Joe McQuillan is always appointed the ref for Dublins big games.

STB.

Stinicker wrote: »

Completely Agreed, were it not for this referee Dublin would have lost by 5+ points today, he has been consistently biased in favour of Dublin since 2011 and this same man has refereed

Dublin V Kerry 2011 AI-Final (Dublin won solely because of Referee)
Dublin V Mayo 2012 (Mayo scraped through despite best efforts of Ref)
Dublin V Mayo 2013 (Dublin won solely because of Referee, Cost Mayo the AI)
Dublin V Donegal 2014 (Gave Dublin everything but they still lost)
Dublin V Mayo 2015 (Dublin should have lost, cost Mayo the game)

On each and every occasion he has ruined the contest and been biased in favour of Dublin. There is a sub-forum for conspiracy theories because I'm beginning to think that it is no longer a coincidence that Joe McQuillan is always appointed the ref for Dublins big games.

Well perhaps you should go there as you are talking out your backside, my good man.

Seriously need to lose this chip on your shoulder about the Dubs. McQuillans performance today giving non existant penalties at the end of the game and soft frees for the GAA's next pay day have to stop. He certainly was not out to help the Dubs.

RoscommonTom

mayo would of scored a lot more from play if it wasn't for all the fouls that the jacks was doing every time mayo were near the posts,

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Miccoli

Stinicker wrote: »

A decent refereee would have punished Dublin properly for their non-stop fouling, apologies to all Tyrone people you team is not the dirtiest, Dublin are. Mayo should have gotten three penalties and Dublin should have got 4 black cards and at least 3 red cards. A decent ref will see Mayo annihilate Dublin.

Cillian o connor scored 1-9 and should of been off after 3 minutes.Aidan o'shea had 2 obvious black cards then Bastick gets a joke of a black card. Mayo get 6/7 soft frees and a non existent penalty.

galwaylad14

Saying Mayo's forwards can't score from play based on yesterday is a ridiculous argument. It's hard to score when you get dragged to the ground every time you have clean possession within site of goal. Having said that, considering the form o'connor was in on the frees Dublin were crazy to be fouling the way they were.

Ref was poor for both teams I thought. Thought there was a few of those grey area type situations when 3 or 4 defenders have an attacker surrounded and under massive pressure (you know the type that can literally go either way on the whim of the ref) that went dublins way.
Both penalties were very dodgy, dublins being outside the box and mayos not being a penalty at all.

Thought dublins centre back got away with a very blatant black card in the first half for a jersey pull when Mayo were going through the middle at speed. Very hard call the replay. Maybe just about Mayo if Connolly is missing

Miccoli

Jersey pull is a yellow not a black.

Godge

Stinicker wrote: »

A decent refereee would have punished Dublin properly for their non-stop fouling, apologies to all Tyrone people you team is not the dirtiest, Dublin are. Mayo should have gotten three penalties and Dublin should have got 4 black cards and at least 3 red cards. A decent ref will see Mayo annihilate Dublin.

You mustn't have been at the game.

From the start the Mayo intent was clear. Stop Dublin moving the ball fast through any means including cynical fouling and when Dublin do move the ball fast, the referee will be 60 yards away so foul the Dublin forward.

Panrich

Godge wrote: »

You mustn't have been at the game.

From the start the Mayo intent was clear. Stop Dublin moving the ball fast through any means including cynical fouling and when Dublin do move the ball fast, the referee will be 60 yards away so foul the Dublin forward.

How come Dublin got 1-11 from play if that was the case?

MfMan

Miccoli wrote: »

Cillian o connor scored 1-9 and should of been off after 3 minutes.Aidan o'shea had 2 obvious black cards then Bastick gets a joke of a black card. Mayo get 6/7 soft frees and a non existent penalty.

Sunday Game showed Boyle was impeded illegally, though initially I though he had dived. Dublin shouldn't have fouled so much, the form the Mayo forwards were in, they probably wouldn't have scored from play. Cluxton could have seen yellow for his kick out at O'Shea when being fouled by the latter. Really nasty piece of work is the Dublin keeper.

Dubliner28

Getting back on topic, still hard to call a winner.

Surly Mayo forwards cant play that bad again and if the Dubs get into a similar position i cant see them letting it slip.

If Connollys red stands it will be a big loss for Dublin. MDMA was also poor for Dublin yesterday.

Both teams have a lot to improve on with any sort of momentum being with Mayo(due to their 7pt come back)

Jippo

Miccoli wrote: »

Without McQulin Mayo score about 8 points today , decent ref and the dubs win handily.

Nonsense. If you foul, there is a punishment.

Jippo

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Begs the question --- why were the Dubs so ill-disciplined?

OldMrBrennan83

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elguapo

I knew there'd be one semi final played in a mostly decent spirit with little enough aggro and both teams having a right go.
I just didn't think it would be Kerry-Tyrone.

BohToffee

If the rules were adhered to yesterday oshea, cluxton, and O'Connor wouldn't have been on the pitch at half time..
Connolly would have seen red when he did, O'Sullivan gets yellow for a jersey pull and a second in 2nd half, and bastick wouldn't have gotten a black card for what was it appears was a trip from rolling after falling or not intentional. Take away the 1-9 and you have mayo seriously in arrears..