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US college course bans the words 'male' and 'female'

  • 30-08-2015 10:07pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,356 ✭✭✭MakeEmLaugh


    Two college programmes at Washington State University in the US have introduced a set of strict guidelines on what their students can and can't say.

    One is “Women & Popular Culture”, taught by Professor Selena Lester Breikss. In her course notes, which you can read here, it states
    Gross generalizations, stereotypes, and derogatory/oppressive language are not acceptable. Use of racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, xenophobic, classist, or generally offensive language in class or submission of such material will not be tolerated. (This includes “The Man,” “Colored People,” “Illegals/Illegal Aliens,” “Tranny” and so on - or referring to women/men as females or males)

    I'm not quite sure why “the Man” is banned either, but there we have it.

    Another course, called “Introduction to Comparative Ethics Studies”, and taught by Professor Rebecca Fowler, does encourage the use of “male”, if prefixed by the word “white”. This is to be used instead of “the white man”.

    For more, see here.
    A Note on [In]appropriate Terminology: Don’t use it.
    • Not “colored” person/s/people but “people of color.”
    Not “the white man” but “white men,” “white males,” or “white society”
    • Not “illegal alien” or “illegals” but “undocumented” migrants/immigrants/persons. Note that the Associated Press (AP) has determined not to use it: ‘The Stylebook no longer sanctions the term “illegal immigrant” or the use of “illegal” to describe a person. Instead, it tells users that “illegal” should describe only an action, such as living in or immigrating to a country illegally.’
    • If you use the above terms in your writing, your grade will suffer a deduction of one point per incident.

    Honestly, it's hard to keep up.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Meh

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    That will not take long to get torn down. Freedom of speech in the old USA.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭strelok


    freedom of speech is what prevents the government from shutting this down and as retarded as these feminists are, them being able to display their retardation so publicly is what makes america brilliant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,450 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Referring to people as male or female is a hate crime. HATE CRIMES!!!!!

    Glazers Out!



  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Franco Shy Cowhide


    the USA is a bit mental sometimes


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    Imagine calling someone the gender they are, how er... disrespectful..

    It's probably easier just to get rid of these silly courses "Comparative studies into the art of spoofing" is more like it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Boring username


    It was this sort of shyte that provoked the murder of two journalists during the week.


    http://nypost.com/2015/08/28/reporters-everyday-comments-deemed-racist-by-on-air-killer/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    It's an outrage Joe

    AN OUTrage

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,450 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    bluewolf wrote: »
    the USA is a bit mental

    FYP

    Glazers Out!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    It's an outrage Joe

    AN OUTrage

    Well no...

    Just stupidity really


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    When will this madness end?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    When will this madness end?

    When we finally make SJW's an endangered species.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Heard it said today that if Back To The Future were made accurately then the 2015 that they travelled to in the movie would just be people with their faces buried in their phones and constantly taking offence at everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Well its pretty ridiculous..but its just one cooky professor who implemented this ban isn't it..so what can you do
    Don't think its a sign of any upcoming trend or anything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Edit: I'm actually thinking of a different case entirely...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1 salt of the earth


    Only weirdos do courses like those, and those that teach them are mentally ill


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Links234 wrote: »
    gender-neutral pronouns.
    Heads up folks, if you see the words "gender-neutral pronoun" in anything, be sure that what follows is either worrying and/or hilarious. Just call everybody "it", be grand.
    TL;DR: It's a whole pile of bull****
    Oh that it is. The link is worthy of the Onion. :pac:

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Heads up folks, if you see the words "gender-neutral pronoun" in anything, be sure that what follows is either worrying and/or hilarious. Just call everybody "it", be grand.

    Oh that it is. The link is worthy of the Onion. :pac:

    Lol I can imagine the outrage calling a feminist "it" I don't think it would be acceptable some how.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 436 ✭✭Old Jakey


    Links234 wrote: »
    Edit: I'm actually thinking of a different case entirely...

    I read that link. Holy **** they actually want people to use made up pronouns like 'ze' and 'xir'. I'm dying laughing here!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    Gender-neutral pronouns...Jesus wept. I'm sorry I read that thing now.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 436 ✭✭Old Jakey


    Only weirdos do courses like those, and those that teach them are mentally ill

    Agreed. Imagine getting thousand dollars into debt for a useless 'gender studies' degree. What are they thinking?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Fukuyama


    I think that acceptance and being open to different genders etc... is important. However, when it comes to using "male" to describe a man, it's pretty accurate. Like 99.93% accurate.

    We cant tip toe around the fact that most people born with a penis are men. And most people born with a vagina are women.

    Ever week it seems like just when I've caught up with all this I'm suddenly an ignorant racist, sexist, homophobic pig.

    I just want to live and chill. :(


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    "We abhor the labelling of people, so we'll introduce many more". Here's a possible new label/pronoun for ye; Gobshítes.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Fukuyama


    Old Jakey wrote: »
    Agreed. Imagine getting thousand dollars into debt for a useless 'gender studies' degree. What are they thinking?

    When they can't get a job, at least they have an informed opinion and can accurately blame "white male patriarchy".


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 436 ✭✭Old Jakey


    Gender-neutral pronouns...Jesus wept. I'm sorry I read that thing now.

    In Sweden they created a new gender neutral word, 'hen'. They're brainwashing children into using it.

    Then again this is Sweden we're talking about, a country where men are discouraged from urinating standing up because it's oppressive.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭strelok


    I love that tumblr is leaking more and more into the real world

    :feminst jazz hands:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,211 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Old Jakey wrote: »
    I read that link. Holy **** they actually want people to use made up pronouns like 'ze' and 'xir'. I'm dying laughing here!


    You will refer to me by my appropriated otherkin assigned pronoun or, or, I shall tweet you to death! :pac:

    Anyone who actually takes this stuff seriously is just as bad as the people who expect anyone to actually take it seriously!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Fukuyama


    Wibbs wrote: »
    "We abhor the labelling of people, so we'll introduce many more". Here's a possible new label/pronoun for ye; Gobshítes.

    I would fight for "Gbsht." to be introduced as an enforced, mandatory official honorific for these types.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 436 ✭✭Old Jakey


    Fukuyama wrote: »
    When they can't get a job, at least they have an informed opinion and can accurately blame "white male patriarchy".

    What sort of job did they think they were going to get? Privilege inspector? Patriarchy investigator?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭Fox_In_Socks


    The sooner that f8cking asteroid hits us, the better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Fukuyama


    Old Jakey wrote: »
    What sort of job did they think they were going to get? Privilege inspector? Patriarchy investigator?

    I don't know.

    If you think about it, the average person is 17 when they enter a college course. Perhaps a rebellious "phase" ended up with a four year commitment. By they time they're 21/22 they have this useless degree which only affords them some authority on Tumblr and certain enclaves of Reddit.

    So they pontificate and rant about how women are discriminated in STEM fields (despite being paid more in entry level and actively head-hunted over men) despite never learning so much as a single programming language themselves.

    They start their own mini campaigns and raise Twitter armies. They muster some cash on crowd funding websites. They blog, vlog and tweet their way to clickbait fandom.

    In the end we have a bunch of people with the sides of their head shaved telling us we should be sorry for having a penis and pale skin.

    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    What are the stats on population of the USA for Transgender for example ? And undocumented means Illegal as one is illegally in the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Just call everybody "it", be grand.
    I read it as "referring to women/men as females or males, instead of women/men which is preferred"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    bluewolf wrote: »
    the USA is a bit mental sometimes

    Unfortunately it is far from limited to the US.
    Sweden's 'gender-neutral' pre-school

    Some have called it "gender madness", but the Egalia pre-school in Stockholm says its goal is to free children from social expectations based on their sex.

    On the surface, the school in Sodermalm - a well-to-do district of the Swedish capital - seems like any other. But listen carefully and you'll notice a big difference.

    The teachers avoid using the pronouns "him" and "her" when talking to the children.

    Instead they refer to them as "friends", by their first names, or as "hen" - a genderless pronoun borrowed from Finnish.

    The books have been carefully selected to avoid traditional presentations of gender and parenting roles.

    So, out with the likes of Sleeping Beauty and Cinderella, and in with, for example, a book about two giraffes who find an abandoned baby crocodile and adopt it.

    Sweden takes gender issues seriously, and for a number of years now, the government has been taking its battle to the playground.

    Gender advisers are now common in schools, and it is part of the national curriculum to work against discrimination of all kinds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    WHEN WILL THE MADNESS END!!!



    * sits in the corner and rocks back and forth.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 966 ✭✭✭Mourinho


    What I find funny about the current trends to increasingly find offence and ban/remove words, phrases, etc to avoid "discrimination" and all that malarky, is its just as disgustingly facist and oppressive as what they deem to be correcting.

    Banning and removing the term male/female, Swedens bollox about making terms gender neutral as male & female is somehow discriminatory and whatever other dreamt up malarkey they have to justify these BS jobs such as Gender Officer and that.

    Seriously someone finds the term male/female oppressive and offending "oh I know lets ban and dictate to others what they can and cannot say from now on!, thats so progressive!"

    Eh no you ****wits, your the types that bang on about oppressive fascists, how you are so tolerant, your not, your the exact ****ing same but somehow have deluded yourselves into thinking its ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Abe Maslow would be really breaking his hole laughing if he was still around. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭Lirange



    It's probably easier just to get rid of these silly courses "Comparative studies into the art of spoofing" is more like it.

    Sounds like a course at Greendale.


  • Registered Users Posts: 45 OiL RiG


    Old Jakey wrote: »
    What sort of job did they think they were going to get? Privilege inspector? Patriarchy investigator?
    Sweden's 'gender-neutral' pre-school

    Some have called it "gender madness", but the Egalia pre-school in Stockholm says its goal is to free children from social expectations based on their sex.

    On the surface, the school in Sodermalm - a well-to-do district of the Swedish capital - seems like any other. But listen carefully and you'll notice a big difference.

    The teachers avoid using the pronouns "him" and "her" when talking to the children.

    Instead they refer to them as "friends", by their first names, or as "hen" - a genderless pronoun borrowed from Finnish.

    The books have been carefully selected to avoid traditional presentations of gender and parenting roles.

    So, out with the likes of Sleeping Beauty and Cinderella, and in with, for example, a book about two giraffes who find an abandoned baby crocodile and adopt it.

    Sweden takes gender issues seriously, and for a number of years now, the government has been taking its battle to the playground.

    Gender advisers are now common in schools, and it is part of the national curriculum to work against discrimination of all kinds.

    Not far off :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    Old Jakey wrote: »
    In Sweden they created a new gender neutral word, 'hen'. They're brainwashing children into using it.

    Then again this is Sweden we're talking about, a country where men are discouraged from urinating standing up because it's oppressive.

    They'll get a surprise if they ever go to Tyneside..."Alreet hen?"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,462 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    What about my right to be called a man?
    The trouble with rights is everybody has them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    kneemos wrote: »
    What about my right to be called a man?

    You're just a damn dirty ape, with your stinking paws and everything :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    This is my solution for America based on the plot of the film The Quick And The Dead.
    Every day gun owners have to have a shoot-out man v man; woman v woman (or whatever are the acceptable gender words).
    Keep having shoot-outs until there is only one gun owner left.
    It should take about three weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,503 ✭✭✭thefinalstage


    This whole think stinks of a bad marketing campaign.

    "Quick, lets do something that will draw attention to us so people with look at the societal norms and conform to our way of thinking!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    This is obviously nuts.

    Unfortunately some sections do use male/female to almost dehumanise people "Females act like X", "You can't trust males", that kind of thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,603 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Only weirdos do courses like those, and those that teach them are mentally ill

    Actually, a course like this could be very good if it was taught in a rational and non soap-boxy way

    The way popular culture treats men and women and people with disabilities and the various sexual preferences and races etc is a hugely important social topic that is genuinely worthwhile to study and understand

    But when it's being taught by someone who sets the rules at the outset that limits how the students are allowed to think about these issues then it's clearly going to be a terrible course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,696 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    For fex ake. Some mammals ARE female, some are male. In fact, most are.

    If I'm writing about foxes, I call them the Dog Fox and the Vixen, etc or I might say "a female" if I'm not sure whether it is a mother fox, an "aunt" or a young female oops sorry!

    An' if you're going to study the behaviour of a species, you're going to have to mention this at some point, I think. Even if they're only plants. For FEX ake!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    Life imitating fiction. Gotta love the intellectual fraud that is deconstructionism. Scary thing is that this is the brand of feminism that Ireland seems to want to ape.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Mourinho wrote: »
    What I find funny about the current trends to increasingly find offence and ban/remove words, phrases, etc to avoid "discrimination" and all that malarky, is its just as disgustingly facist and oppressive as what they deem to be correcting.
    I think it was Winston Churchill who reckoned that in the future fascism would come from the Left.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭zeffabelli


    What's next? Banning Romance languages for the offensive use of gendered vocabulary?


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