I need advice on appealing my result

rockerdude15 · 31-08-2015 8:11am #1

I need help, I got a HD1 in English and viewed my script, I'm one percent (4 marks) off a a C3. The corrector gave me a C3 at first but then crossed it out and put it to a D1. My english teacher said to definitely get it checked and the worst case scenario is that I stay at a D1, and I won't be dropped to a D2. My teacher and I did discover that the corrector missed out on some mistakes, but I'm not sure that there would be enough to drop me. We saw a few examples of poor expression that the corrector hadn't picked up on and in my literary genre answer I got the texts mixed up for one paragraph towards the end of the essay.
My teacher still reckons with the observations report I should get 4 marks to get the one percent. I asked my teacher would the corrector bring it down to a D2, and my teacher (Who has a lot of experience in correcting and recently got promotion ) said that he doesn't see it dropping. What should I do?
I just want second opinions.

EoghanIRL · 31-08-2015 9:08am

Solely from your post,
- you have plenty examples of where you lost marks and made mistakes.
- no examples of why you should go up a grade.

They don't bump up the grades for fun, there has to be a legitimate reason.
If you think they will bump it up 1% trust me they won't, unless there is a valid reason.

Without seeing your script it's hard to say.
If your teacher is an experienced corrector then they should know what they are doing.

rockerdude15 · 31-08-2015 9:21am

EoghanIRL wrote: »

Solely from your post,
- you have plenty examples of where you lost marks and made mistakes.
- no examples of why you should go up a grade.

They don't bump up the grades for fun, there has to be a legitimate reason.
If you think they will bump it up 1% trust me they won't, unless there is a valid reason.

Without seeing your script it's hard to say.
If your teacher is an experienced corrector then they should know what they are doing.

Thanks I know. My teacher has made legitimate reasons that my I could get an extra two marks in P and C in essay and another reason was to do with the literary genre essay.

spurious · 31-08-2015 9:36am

Unless you need it for a course I wouldn't bother, but it's your money, your choice.

rockerdude15 · 31-08-2015 9:40am

spurious wrote: »

Unless you need it for a course I wouldn't bother, but it's your money, your choice.

Would a D1 look bad on my cv?

tomhenryford · 31-08-2015 9:43am

rockerdude15 wrote: »

Would a D1 look bad on my cv?

How many other HC3 + subjects have you got? You usually need 2 for any Level 8 course. If you have a minimum of 2 of those grades, I'd leave it to be honest.

rockerdude15 · 31-08-2015 9:45am

tomhenryford wrote: »

How many other HC3 + subjects have you got? You usually need 2 for any Level 8 course. If you have a minimum of 2 of those grades, I'd leave it to be honest.

I do all higher except for maths and I got above HC3 in those subjects

spurious · 31-08-2015 9:46am

rockerdude15 wrote: »

Would a D1 look bad on my cv?

No, it's nearly a C3. There's only a few percentage in the difference anyway.

You might be surprised how many employers decide about you when they meet you, without even looking at your results. There are many much more important qualities for an employer than the grade you got in English. You could have As coming out your backside, but if you get into work late every day, or mumble at customers, or doss about you won't last long.

Your cover letter or CV itself will tell employers if your English up to scratch.

rockerdude15 · 31-08-2015 9:50am

spurious wrote: »

No, it's nearly a C3. There's only a few percentage in the difference anyway.

You might be surprised how many employers decide about you when they meet you, without even looking at your results. There are many much more important qualities for an employer than the grade you got in English. You could have As coming out your backside, but if you get into work late every day, or mumble at customers, or doss about you won't last long.

Your cover letter or CV itself will tell employers if your English up to scratch.

True, but I'm only one percent off and have a valid reason to be marked up and I'm worried I'd regret not getting it remarked.

tomhenryford · 31-08-2015 9:50am

rockerdude15 wrote: »

I do all higher accept for maths and I got above HC3 in those subjects

That sounds pretty respectable to me. When you asked if a D would look bad, if it was me looking at it on a CV, I would look at the whole picture. For example, you could have a student whose first language isn't English and yet they get 500+ and got a bad grade in English and then you could have the likes of me who got a pretty crap 350 points (crap for me, in terms of what I could have gotten) and I got an A in higher level English.

So if I was comparing those two sets, I'd choose the 500+ regardless of their grade in English.

So, I'd only get it rechecked if you really, really think you should and will go up, otherwise it's not really worth the risk imo.

rockerdude15 · 31-08-2015 9:52am

tomhenryford wrote: »

That sounds pretty respectable to me. When you asked if a D would look bad, if it was me looking at it on a CV, I would look at the whole picture. For example, you could have a student whose first language isn't English and yet they get 500+ and got a bad grade in English and then you could have the likes of me who got a pretty crap 350 points (crap for me, in terms of what I could have gotten) and I got an A in higher level English.

So if I was comparing those two sets, I'd choose the 500+ regardless of their grade in English.

So, I'd only get it rechecked if you really, really think you should and will go up, otherwise it's not really worth the risk imo.

I got 420 and I could've done way better and your right, there is a risk.
I mean there were a lot of mistakes that the examiner didn't see so I don't know.
Plus my english teacher said he doesn't see it going down.

tomhenryford · 31-08-2015 9:53am

rockerdude15 wrote: »

True, but I'm only one percent off and have a valid reason to be marked up and I'm worried I'd regret not getting it remarked.

On reflection, if you're only 1% off then maybe go for it. Your teacher should be able to tell if there is a possibility of a drop of 4% on a remark in comparison to a 1% increase.

rockerdude15 · 31-08-2015 9:55am

tomhenryford wrote: »

On reflection, if you're only 1% off then maybe go for it. Your teacher should be able to tell if there is a possibility of a drop of 4% on a remark in comparison to a 1% increase.

I'm on 216 and 220 would give me a c3, 199 in a D2

tomhenryford · 31-08-2015 9:58am

rockerdude15 wrote: »

I'm on 216 and 220 would give me a c3, 199 in a D2

You could look at it like this, on paper, there is a big difference between a C grade and a D grade but is there really that much difference between D's, if I was an employer, I'd look at it that a D is a D but I'd look at a C differently to a D, if you get me.

If, dropping from the D1 to a D2 isn't going to cause you to lose a course place due to the drop in points that I think it probably is worth getting it rechecked.

rockerdude15 · 31-08-2015 10:12am

I just want a C grade

spurious · 31-08-2015 10:13am

If you want to appeal it, appeal it.

rockerdude15 · 31-08-2015 10:48am

My teacher strongly recommends that I appeal.

Konata · 31-08-2015 2:37pm

tomhenryford wrote: »

If, dropping from the D1 to a D2 isn't going to cause you to lose a course place due to the drop in points that I think it probably is worth getting it rechecked.

You won't lose a course you've already accepted/begun if you appeal a grade and it drops.

Obviously though it could be an issue if OP was to ever apply to CAO again in future as their points would be lower than currently if the grade drops.

OP do you need a 5 point increase for a course you want or anything? If not, going up or staying the same isn't going to make a huge difference to your life. If an employer asks for your LC results in the future, they will look at the whole picture like another poster said. It is extremely unlikely they'll ever say 'oh if only they had a C3 instead of a D1 in English then we would've given them this job'. However, your posts would indicate that you wish to appeal it, if only for the sake of it. If it'll give you peace of mind just go for it!

rainbowtrout · 31-08-2015 5:51pm

rockerdude15 wrote: »

My teacher strongly recommends that I appeal.

Can you afford the €40? That's really the only question you need to answer.

You've said it's for yourself and not for college entry.

There are two things that will happen on appeal.

1. You'll get upgraded to C3 and get your money back
2. You'll remain at D1 and lose your €40.

if you don't appeal, option 2 stands. If you appeal, either could happen.

I need advice on appealing my result

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