Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Aldi not giving change

Options
1…456810

Comments

  • Options
    #212
    L1011
    Registered Users Posts: 69,038 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »
    Are banks still issuing 1c and 2c

    Many branches haven't had sufficient stocks for weeks and the Central Bank won't be minting more so realistically they won't be.


  • Options
    #213
    Liam O
    Registered Users Posts: 19,238 ✭✭✭✭Liam O


    A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »
    Can stores opt out of rounding

    It would be stupid to. They are useless coins that have no real use and are just clutter, was great when I was in Canada and didn't have to deal with that rubbish. A pain in the ass for stores to maintain them and a pain in the ass for people to get them.


  • Options
    #214
    Aaronlp5
    Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭Aaronlp5


    I'm pretty sure you will actually be able to ask for your full change if you want it.


  • Options
    #215
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,466 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Aaronlp5 wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure you will actually be able to ask for your full change if you want it.

    it has already been confirmed that this is entirely optional for consumers and stores.


  • Options
    #216
    B17G
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭B17G


    Website explaining all. Includes a video.

    http://www.betterallround.ie/


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #217
    Dodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,288 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Yep, no big hoopla.

    Most people will go with the rounded change. Some won't and everyone can go on about their business without any real worries.


  • Options
    #218
    A_Sober_Paddy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    Liam O wrote: »
    It would be stupid to. They are useless coins that have no real use and are just clutter, was great when I was in Canada and didn't have to deal with that rubbish. A pain in the ass for stores to maintain them and a pain in the ass for people to get them.

    Totally agree, but the company I work for just sent us an email this morning saying we are not participating in the rounding


  • Options
    #219
    L1011
    Registered Users Posts: 69,038 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »
    Totally agree, but the company I work for just sent us an email this morning saying we are not participating in the rounding

    Unless they intend to start buying and shipping in shrapnel change from the dwindling number of EU countries still minting them, they're going to have little choice soon.


  • Options
    #220
    sonny.knowles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 607 ✭✭✭sonny.knowles


    B17G wrote: »
    Website explaining all. Includes a video.

    http://www.betterallround.ie/

    A video to explain rounding? Must watch that. :)


  • Options
    #221
    A_Sober_Paddy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    L1011 wrote: »
    Unless they intend to start buying and shipping in shrapnel change from the dwindling number of EU countries still minting them, they're going to have little choice soon.

    Sure I ment


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #222
    A_Sober_Paddy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    L1011 wrote: »
    Unless they intend to start buying and shipping in shrapnel change from the dwindling number of EU countries still minting them, they're going to have little choice soon.

    Sure I mentioned it too a CEO a few weeks a go and he hadn't a clue what I was talking about...company only cares about its English side of operations


  • Options
    #223
    Stark
    Registered Users Posts: 20,998 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    None of the shops I visited today were doing rounding. Still ended up with the usual pocket full of shrapnel at the end of the day :(
    B17G wrote: »
    Website explaining all. Includes a video.

    http://www.betterallround.ie/

    Primary school mathematics for adults :)


  • Options
    #224
    fin12
    Registered Users Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    L1011 wrote: »
    Legislation, please.

    Display of prices is completely unrelated to change and comes under offer to treat anyway.

    What legislation says that they are not obliged to give change. :confused:


  • Options
    #225
    Fuzzy Clam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,293 ✭✭✭Fuzzy Clam


    Stark wrote: »
    None of the shops I visited today were doing rounding. Still ended up with the usual pocket full of shrapnel at the end of the day :(



    Primary school mathematics for adults :)
    There are going to be training courses for shop staff.


  • Options
    #226
    L1011
    Registered Users Posts: 69,038 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    fin12 wrote: »
    What legislation says that they are not obliged to give change. :confused:

    None, because there's no need to legislate for every single "not required".

    Theres no legislation at all that requires it, just convention and inevitable business failure if you don't.


  • Options
    #227
    delahuntv
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭delahuntv


    fin12 wrote: »
    What legislation says that they are not obliged to give change. :confused:

    what legislation says they do?

    If you want to be pedantic - you have the invitation to treat of a price displayed. Then at the till, the price is asked for by the retailer (lest say €9). You at that point may reject that price and or make a counter offer.

    In most cases you offer a payment form - if its a card, you the have an extra opportunity to accept the amount via entering your pin number, however when offering cash, if the retailer was pedantic and following rules to the absolute letter in their favour and you wanted to be sure of change, you would then make an offer saying that you will offer €10 in exchange foir the goods and €1 returned.

    But we live in the real world and norms apply along with "reasonableness" (a very of used word in legal situations)

    Hence it is "reasonable" to expect change in the above transaction due to the norms of society, but it is not illegal not to give the change - however such a store would not last long.


  • Options
    #228
    fin12
    Registered Users Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    delahuntv wrote: »
    what legislation says they do?

    If you want to be pedantic - you have the invitation to treat of a price displayed. Then at the till, the price is asked for by the retailer (lest say €9). You at that point may reject that price and or make a counter offer.

    In most cases you offer a payment form - if its a card, you the have an extra opportunity to accept the amount via entering your pin number, however when offering cash, if the retailer was pedantic and following rules to the absolute letter in their favour and you wanted to be sure of change, you would then make an offer saying that you will offer €10 in exchange foir the goods and €1 returned.

    But we live in the real world and norms apply along with "reasonableness" (a very of used word in legal situations)

    Hence it is "reasonable" to expect change in the above transaction due to the norms of society, but it is not illegal not to give the change - however such a store would not last long.

    I asked what legislation says that they do not have to give change because another poster here kept asking what legislation says that they do have to give change, was it fair to be asked to show the legislation that says that they have to give change and not then show the legislation that says they do not have to give change.


  • Options
    #229
    Lux23
    Registered Users Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    It doesn't matter about legislation anyway, the scheme is voluntary and if a customers wants the correct change then they have to get it.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/1028/737876-rounding-of-one-and-two-cent/


  • Options
    #230
    L1011
    Registered Users Posts: 69,038 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    fin12 wrote: »
    I asked what legislation says that they do not have to give change because another poster here kept asking what legislation says that they do have to give change, was it fair to be asked to show the legislation that says that they have to give change and not then show the legislation that says they do not have to give change.

    There is no need for legislation to say you don't have to do something, hence there isn't any.

    If you don't understand that, you aren't going to understand legislation in the first place.


  • Options
    #231
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,466 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    fin12 wrote: »
    I asked what legislation says that they do not have to give change because another poster here kept asking what legislation says that they do have to give change, was it fair to be asked to show the legislation that says that they have to give change and not then show the legislation that says they do not have to give change.

    this isnt a matter of legislation it is a matter of simple contract.


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #232
    TheChizler
    Registered Users Posts: 9,455 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    The website seems to have an opinion of its own, not sure if it's based on anything...
    betterallround.ie wrote:
    The consumer will always have the right to exact change, so retailers should make sure they retain a sufficient stock of 1 and 2 cent coins. If a retailer doesn't have any available then he will have to round the cost down and take an unnecessary loss of up to 4 cent on that transaction.


  • Options
    #233
    Greenmachine
    Registered Users Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    Was in in Tesco the other day and the manager was explaining the rounding to two members of staff. I was buying a single low value item. The Manager went into a near monologue with a few confused words from one of the two staff.

    Manager: You see, that there. Now in Supervalu instead of charging 47c, they would charge that customer 50c.
    Staff: I wouldn't be able to do that
    Manager: That is coming in today, everything is rounded up or down to the nearest 5c, supervalu are bringing it in. It will be voluntary, we won't be bringing it in.

    So in spite of being the one of trying to explain it to the staff he was wrong. 47c transaction should have been rounded to 45c. The staff had not even heard of a national voluntary rounding scheme being implemented.
    I wasn't even that bothered that he was using me as an example when I was standing right there, on the merits of how little awareness there is other there for this scheme.


  • Options
    #234
    L1011
    Registered Users Posts: 69,038 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Tesco have brutal head office to store communications and even worse manager to staff comms when the managers are told.

    They've also said they are testing it in one store with a view to full implementation, rather than "won't be bringing it in"

    The Central Bank left this ridiculously late to advertise to the public - and many shop staff have only heard it from those ads.


  • Options
    #235
    TallGlass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    So day one and I am already down 2c.

    Why don't the shops or what ever just don't price things like ticks. Don't price things 1,2,3,4c simple really.


  • Options
    #236
    L1011
    Registered Users Posts: 69,038 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    TallGlass wrote: »
    So day one and I am already down 2c.

    Why don't the shops or what ever just don't price things like ticks. Don't price things 1,2,3,4c simple really.

    Would lead to increases and be inflationary as well as damage the .99 psychological point, which everyone says doesn't work on them but usually does


  • Options
    #237
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,466 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    TallGlass wrote: »
    So day one and I am already down 2c.

    Why don't the shops or what ever just don't price things like ticks. Don't price things 1,2,3,4c simple really.


    why didnt you insist on your 2c if it hurt you so much?


  • Options
    #238
    Second Toughest in_the Freshers
    Site Banned Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Second Toughest in_the Freshers


    I think it is a ridiculous scheme and I will not be participating.



    My 2 cent


  • Options
    #239
    TallGlass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    why didnt you insist on your 2c if it hurt you so much?

    Maybe because I thought I got the correct change like I have the last number of years.


  • Options
    #240
    mada999
    Registered Users Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭mada999


    ken wrote: »
    He reckons at the moment he loses about €20-30 per week from people going over a few cent and not paying it.

    lol I wonder how much he gains from the dodgy calibration of the pump itself ?


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #241
    Dodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,288 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    TallGlass wrote: »
    So day one and I am already down 2c.

    Why don't the shops or what ever just don't price things like ticks. Don't price things 1,2,3,4c simple really.

    You're complaining about being down 2c but you'd be happy to have the prices increased? And they're the "ticks"?


Advertisement